AFL and dv - how has no one created a post on this yet?


AFL and dv - how has no one created a post on this yet?

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Here you gohttp://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-26/afl-condemns-alleged-crowd-assault-wa-premier-outraged/6807204
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Because it has nothing to do with Australian Football?
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An important distinction needs to be made, this is not domestic violence, it's just violence.

He punched a random stranger in a very public place.
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Glad mainstream media is finally waking up to the continued crowd issues at AFL games.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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I'm surprised the bloke who hit the lady didn't get his skull crushed by everyone around him.

Should see jail for his act at a family event.
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paulbagzFC wrote:
Glad mainstream media is finally waking up to the continued crowd issues at AFL games.

-PB

Ah the smart phone era. Glad that these days people take videos and photos of everything.
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u4486662 wrote:
An important distinction needs to be made, this is not domestic violence, it's just violence.

He punched a random stranger in a very public place.


No its domestic violence bro and there needs to be a clear distinction.


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TheSelectFew wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
An important distinction needs to be made, this is not domestic violence, it's just violence.

He punched a random stranger in a very public place.


No its domestic violence bro and there needs to be a clear distinction.

Domestic violence occurs between two intimate people in a private place. This is violence. The same as if someone was King hit at a pub.
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Edited by condemned666: 27/9/2015 11:44:19 AM
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How can it possibly be domestic if it is not related to a domicile ffs :lol:
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u4486662 wrote:
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An important distinction needs to be made, this is not domestic violence, it's just violence.

He punched a random stranger in a very public place.


No its domestic violence bro and there needs to be a clear distinction.

Domestic violence occurs between two intimate people in a private place. This is violence. The same as if someone was King hit at a pub.


The problem is that these actions are being concealed behind closed doors and the difficulty is prosecuting these cases especially if kids or pets are involved. Also the fact that its ongoing violence.

Also another distinction is that the incidents that you described are physical acts. Dv isn't always physical. It can be mental abuse too.


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Draupnir wrote:
How can it possibly be domestic if it is not related to a domicile ffs :lol:


Fmd.


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Can't be denied that it runs in the culture of their sport. Former player Nick Stevens was sentenced to eight month's jail this year for, among other things, smashing his partner's head into a tiled kitchen wall, and who can forget Wayne Carey glassing his missus in Florida? Add to that Gary Abblett loading up that 20 year old fan with heroin, fucking her and leaving her to die of an overdose, and surely so many more stories that I, a non AFL fan, could think of off the top of my head.

There's even a thread on "Domestic Violence and the AFL" on the AFL forum BigFooty, I was hoping to see some positive discussion, but straight away it was bogged down with "but it happens to men too" and "this is nothing to do with football". :lol:

Poison culture, Australia's shame.

Edited by paladisious: 27/9/2015 11:49:40 PM
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TheSelectFew wrote:
Draupnir wrote:
How can it possibly be domestic if it is not related to a domicile ffs :lol:


Fmd.


TheSelectFew wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
An important distinction needs to be made, this is not domestic violence, it's just violence.

He punched a random stranger in a very public place.


No its domestic violence bro and there needs to be a clear distinction.

Domestic violence occurs between two intimate people in a private place. This is violence. The same as if someone was King hit at a pub.


The problem is that these actions are being concealed behind closed doors and the difficulty is prosecuting these cases especially if kids or pets are involved. Also the fact that its ongoing violence.

Also another distinction is that the incidents that you described are physical acts. Dv isn't always physical. It can be mental abuse too.


...Annnnnd what exactly has that got to do with a bloke shoving a woman that he doesn't know, in the throat at an AFL match? It has absolutely nothing to do with domestic violence, and the article doesn't use the word "domestic" or "home" once.

Complete beat up by Coverdale. It is absolutely not shying away from domestic violence to call a spade a spade.

I could easily just point out violence against women or drunken behaviour - FMD, they are both closer t the mark than domestic violence here. Calling this in any way related to domestic violence is just wrong. Plain and simple. Doesn't mean I don't think domestic violence isn't an issue, but this isn't domestic violence.
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Sorry the title of this article threw me off. I was under the impression they were in a relationship. Triple M made it sound they were too fwiw.


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paladisious wrote:
Can't be denied that it runs in the culture of their sport. Former player Nick Stevens was sentenced to eight month's jail this year for, among other things, smashing his partner's head into a tiled kitchen wall, and who can forget Wayne Carey glassing his missus in Florida? Add to that Gary Abblett loading up that 20 year old fan with heroin, fucking her and leaving her to die of an overdose, and surely so many more stories that I, a non AFL fan, could think of off the top of my head.

There's even a thread on "Domestic Violence and the AFL" on the AFL forum BigFooty, I was hoping to see some positive discussion, but straight away it was bogged down with "but it happens to men too" and "this is nothing to do with football". :lol:

Poison culture, Australia's shame.

Edited by paladisious: 27/9/2015 11:49:40 PM


All of that's true, but I wouldn't necessarily call it AFL culture, I'd say it's reflective of society. There are around 800 AFL footballers in Australia. Simple statistics tell us a number of them will be perpetrators of domestic violence, just as some will be drug addicts, and some will do much worse than that. They don't exist in a vacuum outside of the rest of society.

Where I would say it becomes somewhat 'AFL Culture' is that these young men are given a celebrity and God like status through the ridiculous media and AFL hype machine that it no doubt gets to some of them and they start believing that bullshit.

However I'd have no doubt that the A-League will have similar high profile issues in the future as the game grows, and our players are given the same 'celebrity status' as AFL/NRL players.

On the issue of crowds, the AFL are easily the most feral out of all the codes IMO.
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Can't quantify this statistically but the number of stories you hear about British footballers being involved in similar incidents has got to be up there with the AFL.

Not that that means there's no problem within AFL culture. Just means there's a problem within the culture of AFL and rugby league in Australia and with football in the UK.

As for the people on the footy forums who play it down by suggesting it happens to men, too. They must be retarded. If it happens to men, it's shocking and should be cracked down on. If it happens to women as well as men, then it's beyond the pale.
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TheSelectFew wrote:
Sorry the title of this article threw me off. I was under the impression they were in a relationship. Triple M made it sound they were too fwiw.

Of course they would because that fits the narrative.
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TBH I wouldn't have been surprised either way.
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paladisious wrote:

There's even a thread on "Domestic Violence and the AFL" on the AFL forum BigFooty, I was hoping to see some positive discussion, but straight away it was bogged down with "but it happens to men too" and "this is nothing to do with football". [/i]


That's par for the course here.

Not as much any more but sure as eggs there'll be someone claiming that within 5 minutes.

Where's "Unshackled"?


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In Australia 4 women per 100,000 will be murdered, this is about the lowest of any demographic in any culture at any time in human history. Even when they have it better than anyone else who has ever lived these bitches still whinge.
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In Australia 4 women per 100,000 will be murdered, this is about the lowest of any demographic in any culture at any time in human history. Even when they have it better than anyone else who has ever lived these bitches still whinge.

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looks like this story is the only talking point in an otherwise predictable/ boring grand final result


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