I agree people should wait for the facts before jumping to conclusions.

He's only 5ft 7, I'd give it a go :lol:

Civilised muslims hate the extremists more than you or I ever will and vice versa. Bin Laden (and all modern jihadists) referred to the near enemy and the far enemy. The near enemy are muslims who aren't islamic enough, people such as FBK, and the far enemy are infidels like us. Killing the near enemy is much more important for hardcore jihadists and is central to AQ and ISIS ideology.

The ABC were saying the same thing even as the murderers of Lee Rigby were standing there covered in his blood and screaming allahu Akbar. Get your hand off it mate, do you honestly think it could be anyone else?

Linking this to immigration is stupid. Extremists will find a way to create terror regardless; if they want to enter a country to commit terrorism the fact that legal immigration channels might be closed off isn't going to deter them.

So you can either save hundreds of thousands of people from civil war in Syria, and face the possibility of terrorist attacks, or you can abandon those people and still face the possibility of an attack.

What. I have little doubt its islamists, most likely IS "mate", but blaming refugees?

thats exactly what Barack Obama said :)

But The possibility of a terrorist attack is increased by having 1 million unidentified people coming from a war zone

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I'm sure itll be revealed that he is whatever helps certain media or political groups need to further agendas (both sides of the political spectrum).

Reclaim FB likes to go through the roof.

-PB

The ABC will defend it to the nth degree to the point where they find a way to link it to failed western foreign policy

If a group of extremists are committed enough to their insane ideology that they're willing to murder dozens of innocent people, then they'll be committed enough to enter countries illegally in order to do so.

Indeed.

-PB

As opposed to a successful western foreign policy? Like the imperialisation of every single fucking country where these people come from :lol: ?

15 of the 18 September 11 hichjackers were from Saudi Arabia, as well as it's mastermind Bin Laden, hardly people from a background downtrodden by the west. Even if they were, it doesn't take responsibility for murdering hundreds off anybody but themselves.

Edited by paladisious: 14/11/2015 03:00:47 PM

im not saying western policy is successful....most of it never is.and their intervention in the middle east is a basket case..but the ABC fails to recognise radical islam for what it is.
but dont get me wrong im not saying other religions dont have their share of bad apples too

Edited by Socawho: 14/11/2015 02:58:47 PM

Edited by Socawho: 14/11/2015 02:59:04 PM

Bin Laden came from an incredibly wealthy family ...he didnt have to work if didnt want to

Fun pala fact, before we knew who the attacker in Norway was, I did a quick check on wiki to see how many Muslims lived there. It was someone else that time.

It was probably them this time though, and probably ISIS related/inspired, based on what we've heard so far but yeah waiting for the facts before opening your cakehole is important.

A lot of incredibly stupid assumptions are being made by some armchair experts here.
Lets just wait and see what the relevant authorities provide us with then we'll know the truth.

Edited by MrBrisbane: 17/3/2016 09:51:58 PM

Muslims are not a race of people.

I'm not sure where I shifted responsibility? I commented on western policies, not actions by individuals?

In any case, pretty much every country surrounding Saudi Arabia is a separate country because they were established as British protectorates. Wahabism only sprang to life following the end of World War One and Osama bin Laden purposefully steered away from Saudi Arabia (as did the rest of those perpetrators) after the Saudi kingdom allowed US troops into their borders during Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. His actions were directly inspired by Western intervention from 1918 to 1980.

sharing culture and beliefs is very much a definition of race. look it up

however are you saying its ok to discriminate based on religion?

That was a lone gunman and the target chosen was the children of the Danish left wing elite so it wasn't much of a surprise as the Danish loony right has been growing for years and will continue to do so.

Multiple simultaneous attacks across several locations combining small arms and improvised explosives, possibly suicide bombers - that is an MO that points squarely at one ideology. The only question is whether IS or AQ were the source.

The only surprising thing about this attack so far is that no specifically Jewish targets were attacked. In Mumbai (almost identical methodology) scant resources were used to torture and murder the occupants of a small Jewish cultural centre, the last time France was attacked they went after a kosher deli.

Extremist islamism has been around long before wahhabism rose in a non colonial state (Saudi arabia)

I have been studying and fighting terrorism for the best part of two decades, I know what I am talking about. All you have is a wilful desire to deny the obvious in order to feed your moral vanity. Stick your armchair up your arse.

if the religion promotes hate and violence then why not.
if you follow islam by the letter then yes you should be monitored and yes you are a danger to society

David Koresh and Jim Jones designed their own religious cults...so does that mean they shouldve been exempt as well?

Edited by Socawho: 14/11/2015 03:18:02 PM

Edited by Socawho: 14/11/2015 03:19:35 PM

But I havent denied anything...

Says the guy that has pigeonholed Christianity on several occasions.

Thats ok. Its fashionable to hate Christians.

Anyone can be a muslim. Theres no racial criteria you need to pass. Islam is an ideology.

u4486662 did not say lets attack all muslims. Just that they aren't a race