A lot of incredibly stupid assumptions are being made by some armchair experts here.
Lets just wait and see what the relevant authorities provide us with then we'll know the truth.

That was a lone gunman and the target chosen was the children of the Danish Norwegian left wing elite so it wasn't much of a surprise as the Danish Norwegian loony right has been growing for years and will continue to do so.

Multiple simultaneous attacks across several locations combining small arms and improvised explosives, possibly suicide bombers - that is an MO that points squarely at one ideology. The only question is whether IS or AQ were the source.

The only surprising thing about this attack so far is that no specifically Jewish targets were attacked. In Mumbai (almost identical methodology) scant resources were used to torture and murder the occupants of a small Jewish cultural centre, the last time France was attacked they went after a kosher deli.

That was a lone gunman and the target chosen was the children of the Danish left wing elite so it wasn't much of a surprise as the Danish loony right has been growing for years and will continue to do so.

Multiple simultaneous attacks across several locations combining small arms and improvised explosives, possibly suicide bombers - that is an MO that points squarely at one ideology. The only question is whether IS or AQ were the source.

The only surprising thing about this attack so far is that no specifically Jewish targets were attacked. In Mumbai (almost identical methodology) scant resources were used to torture and murder the occupants of a small Jewish cultural centre, the last time France was attacked they went after a kosher deli.

Norway has, however, expressed a willingness to recognize an independent Palestinian State. Approximately 10 days ago, following a July 18 meeting with PA President Mahmoud Abbas, the FM told reporters that it is “perfectly legitimate” for the Palestinian Authority to bring its application for statehood to the United Nations in September. Eskil Pederson, an AUF (Workers Youth League) leader, anticipated that Abbas will seek recognition of East Jerusalem as the capital.

the Foreign Minister “was met with a demand from the AUF that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state.” It has been reported that mock “Break the Israel blockade” games were a major activity at the Utoya Island meeting.

Anyone opposed to Israel will parish from the earth forever. And the sooner the better.

I have been studying and fighting terrorism for the best part of two decades, I know what I am talking about. All you have is a wilful desire to deny the obvious in order to feed your moral vanity. Stick your armchair up your arse.

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But I havent denied anything...

I think thats a right winger trolling mate :)

A lot of incredibly stupid assumptions are being made by some armchair experts here.
Lets just wait and see what the relevant authorities provide us with then we'll know the truth.

I'll walk to Wollongong backwards with a feather duster up my arse if these clowns weren't muslim fanatics.

I'll walk to Wollongong backwards with a feather duster up my arse if these clowns weren't muslim fanatics.

Read some of the posts and all i can say is wow. People attacki g each other, posting stupid amd ignorant shit, people have died and some are using this to post their opinions, fuck sakes learn how to keep some semblance of decorum

I have been studying and fighting terrorism for the best part of two decades, I know what I am talking about. All you have is a wilful desire to deny the obvious in order to feed your moral vanity. Stick your armchair up your arse.

Even at times like this some people still find a way to take the moral high ground.

sharing culture and beliefs is very much a definition of race. look it up

however are you saying its ok to discriminate based on religion?

Felt compelled to look up this scene from Casablanca:

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As opposed to a successful western foreign policy? Like the imperialisation of every single fucking country where these people come from :lol: ?

It's only a definition made by stupid non-science arts majors.

By your definition, nazis would be a race, so would KKK members.

Actual educated people like me know that Islam is a religion that is common in many racial groups around the world, like Arabs, Persians, central Asians, SE Asians, North Africans and Eastern Europeans to name just a few.

To say Muslims are a race is a deeply racist comment made by people who struggle with notions of reality. Please don't succumb to this lie.

Islam, like all religions, is a fundamentalist social and political ideology that should be subject to the same criticism as any other political or social ideology.

You do not have a choice in your race, but you have a choice to be or not to be religious just like your political beliefs.

[size=6]Paris attacks: President Francois Hollande says 'our fight will be merciless'[/size]


French president Francois Hollande has addressed the media near the site of the largest loss of life in the Paris attacks, the Bataclan concert hall, promising a "merciless" fight from a unified France.

"We wanted to be here, among all these who saw these atrocious things, to say that we are going to fight," he said.

"And our fight will be merciless, because these terrorists that are capable of such atrocities need to know that they will be confronted by a France that is determined, unified and together.

"France will not let itself be overawed, even if today it is expressing an infinite amount of emotion at this drama and this tragedy which was an abomination and a barbaric act."

Mr Hollande was flanked by French interior minister Bernard Cazeneuve, prime minister Manuel Valls and French National Assembly president Claude Bartolone as he addressed reporters.

He reiterated his statement in a tweet, saying: "Faced with dread, there is a nation that knows how to defend itself, is known to mobilise its forces and, once again, will defeat terrorists".

An estimated 140 people were killed in an "unprecedented" series of bombings and shootings across Paris at the Stade de France stadium and the popular Bataclan music venue.

Mr Hollande has cancelled plans to travel to Turkey at the weekend for the G20 summit.

He called an emergency meeting of his national security council for 9:00am (7:00pm AEDT) on Saturday.



PHOTO: Flanked by his security detail, French president Francois Hollande arrives at the scene of one of the attacks. (AFP: Miguel Medina)


An apparent double suicide bombing struck outside the national stadium where Mr Hollande and the German foreign minister were watching a friendly soccer international between the two nations.

After being whisked from the soccer stadium near the blasts, Mr Hollande declared a nationwide state of emergency, the first in 10 years, and announced the closure of France's borders to stop perpetrators escaping.

That means France is reimposing the border controls that are usually avoided by the Schengen agreement, which allows for unrestricted travel between countries.

Authorities, less worried about people entering France, are concerned that people connected to the attacks may try to leave France.

The powers of police to stop and search people and to raid premises are also being ramped up.

The Paris metro railway was closed and schools, universities and municipal buildings were ordered to stay shut on Saturday. However some rail and air services are expected to run.

"This is a horror," the visibly shaken president said in a midnight television address to the nation before chairing an emergency cabinet meeting and visiting the Bataclan venue.

"We have, on my orders, mobilised all the forces we can muster in order to neutralise the terrorist threat and secure all the affected areas.

"I have also asked for military reinforcements. They too are in the Paris area to make sure no new attack can take place."

One of the assailants mentioned France's intervention in the Syrian civil war to justify the attacks, said a witness who was at the concert venue.

"I clearly heard them say 'It's the fault of (French president Francois) Hollande, it's the fault of your president, he should not have intervened in Syria'. They also spoke about Iraq," said Pierre Janaszak, a radio presenter.

President Hollande's midnight address:

"My dear compatriots,
As I speak, terrorist attacks of unprecedented proportions are underway in the Paris area. There are dozens killed, there are many injured. It is a horror.
We have, on my decision, mobilised all forces possible to neutralise the terrorists and make all concerned areas safe. I have also asked for military reinforcements.
They are currently in the Paris area to ensure that no new attack can take place. I have also called a cabinet meeting that will be held in a few minutes.
Two decisions will be taken: A state of emergency will be declared, which means that some places will be closed, traffic may be banned, and there will also be searches which may be decided throughout Ile de France. The state of emergency will be proclaimed throughout the territory.
The second decision I have made is to close the borders. We must ensure that no one enters to commit any crimes and that those who have committed the crimes that we have unfortunately seen can also be arrested if they should leave the territory.
This is a terrible ordeal which once again assails us. We know where it comes from, who these criminals are, who these terrorists are.
In these difficult moments, we must — and I'm thinking of the many victims, their families and the injured — show compassion and solidarity. But we must also show unity and calm.
Faced with terror, France must be strong, it must be great and the state authorities must be firm. We will be.
We must also call on everyone to be responsible.
What the terrorists want is to scare us and fill us with dread. There is indeed reason to be afraid. There is dread, but in the face of this dread, there is a nation that knows how to defend itself, that knows how to mobilise its forces and, once again, will defeat the terrorists.
French citizens, we have not completed the operations. There are still some that are extremely difficult. It's at this moment that the security forces are staging an assault, especially in a place in Paris.
I ask you to keep all your trust in what we can do with the security forces to protect our nation from terrorist acts.
Long live the Republic and long live France."
(Translation: Reuters)

I'll walk to Wollongong backwards with a feather duster up my arse if these clowns weren't muslim fanatics.

It was a pro Palestinian rally from a youth politically affiliated group (AUF) that got shot up in Norway.



http://www.algemeiner.com/2011/07/26/pro-palestinian-activity-precedes-massacre-at-norway-island/





An interesting opinion in the comments section