Edited by MrBrisbane: 17/3/2016 10:05:09 PM

You're drunk again mate. See you on here tomorrow.

Add me on facey

It's seriously losing its charm for me... The multi obsession needs to die for a few months.

People on here don't know when to let jokes go before they die.

#salty

noo dont go!
come on buddy...

Edited by Socawho: 21/11/2015 03:08:00 AM

The sentiment is shared by a lot of us. I don't come here too often anymore because it's become less a community for football and more a community for "bantz m8". I post very regularly on r/soccer on Reddit as I find that to be a more enjoyable place than here on occasion.

Unfortunately mods are screwed either way, they do nothing and people complain they arent being strict enough, they do something and people complain theyre being too strict.

It could possibly be because on reddit you can only choose one flair as opposed to seven.

Edited by Draupnir: 21/11/2015 04:25:38 AM

Well Pala is the worst mod, you may as well just make everyone a mod in that case.

I don't talk much to you MrBrisbane but <3

Edited by Slygoat36: 21/11/2015 07:33:03 AM

FFS KA.

-PB

Is this the end of 442?

Mate, take some time away for a while and see how you feel later down the track. I agree there should be some new mods to help with the load, seems like pala and a couple others do most of the work with little to no praise.

is 442 in trouble

i think the problem is you have people who arent even football fans ie Murdoch Rags that come here and try to inflict their political agenda.

Only question is, who is going to step up to do it? It's a largely thankless job and pala almost quit a few weeks ago.

FFS noooo :'(

A good moderator should have no allegiances to forum factions.

True.

Too much "playing the man", holding grudges and dragging arguments from other threads into new threads. That stuff annoys me.

Agreed Mr Brisbane. Whilst I'm no fan of pauly and his antics some of the shit that gets said even when he posts something normal is really getting out of hand. I love bantz as much as the next guy but it's losing its appeal real fast.

This week I learned that paulc is actually a pretty knowledgable football fan who has been following the game for a long time. So good on him.

I'll take on mod duties M80s.

At least there are moderators here on 442. Over at SBS's TWG website, SBS must be so low on funding that they don't accept any comments, so that TWG website has become devoid of any discussion.

it looks like 433 has been banned by Kevin?

He has.

I think it all started with the WSW trouble thread. Those westies destroying forums now.

I guess he's not a fan of that formation. :)

4-1-2-1-2 is the formation of the future.

See you back here in round 15 ;)

so where are we going to get our top betting tips now?

Need new mod nominations to control the unruly AF.

I don't post in there much because it's a shit fight. Still like to post in ET and WF.

Being a mod is a thankless and unforgiving jobs. I know pala whilst at the mv game two weeks back was on here trying to keep the peace and not watching the game. He has a full time job as well. Also i find it funny that mv and syd fc fans have being copping ahit for ages but brissy fans crack the hissy fits when the get it. Blame paul c

:roll:

And you all mods dont have allegiances. Pala is copping it atm because the brissy fans are chucking a hissy fit. Pauly has a thread allowed and went on for a while yet it was allowed to stay open . But if a mv fan does it brissy fans be like waaahh.

It cycles with the dominant club. Brisbane fans were insufferable. Victory fans are becoming the same.

What annoys me is threads looking to debate games, players and actual football are derailed by fans wanting to one-up each other with bullshit or people using personal attacks against the OP poster.

Needs to be stamped out.

I wasnt referring to the football team faction :)

Pretty much this.

I think the concept of "factions" in ET has been overblown too (especially around this M80 thing).

Forum has always been cliquey, only now there's a name to one of them :lol:

TBF it's my fault Pala is copping it. I threw him under the bus without realising that the little bitches from Brisbane would actually doxx him on social media, let alone on here.

too many soft cunts

I only give him shit because I was banned because I said faggot yet he(or some MV fan, memory a bit Hazey on who) wrote it excessively two posts before mine.

I don't follow any of you plebs on social media ;)

Edited by Slygoat36: 21/11/2015 06:45:43 PM

The eternal shit fighting just makes this place boring to be honest, it's almost impossible to find any threads that have meaningful discussion going on, both in AF and ET. I pop in every now and then, click on a thread in a hope, only to usually discover a mix of the same posters circlejirking their friends/flinging shit at others.

As someone that has lurked and occasionally posted for a pretty long while I have noticed that no one is really above it. Even most of the users who I used to enjoy reading contribute to it nowadays.

But then again it's just an internet forum and none of what I am saying really matters.

I would suggest that the solution for those complaining of a lack of quality discussion is to start some yourself, start new threads, ask thought provoking questions, whatever, it all helps.

Of course but what I mean is you don't see these cliques go into a thread and just attack someone in some sort of coordinated way or to defend one of their own. That happens in AF though. In ET, usually it's because you're opinion is either simply unpopular and a number of people disagree with you or you're being a douche.

:) I've seen it

Of course you have :) :)

On moderation, a classic example of it is in the AJohn thread right now. The post should have been deleted at the very least yet it's left hanging there...

I saw a clique jump all over munrub, did you miss that?

When he was going after salmon incessantly and people told him to back off? Yep horrendous.

I t was a matter between him and salmon. Yet a group of the clique allies decided to go after munrub to a point of goading him to respond and then finally acting as bullies. Did you miss that?

Yes I saw salmon goad him.

When they post page after page on the open forum where everyone can read it, it's no longer between "just him and salmon".

:)
Everyone needs to take a glimpse in the mirror, not least those sanctimonious members who often pop up to beat down another forumite who says something they dont like, as if they're a benchmark of moral judgement and civility.
:)

As the old reclaim australia theme goes:

If you don't like it, leave.

:)
Everyone should post in a passive aggressive manner and get annoyed when someone challenges their opinion.
:)

I said something similar of this not long ago and got laughed down typically.

All and fun having bantz but nothing, nothing is taken seriously enough to have a discussion.
Most here are against those that differing opinions on their team/player etc ffs.
paulc Decentric Arthurs Barca and the likes are needed here but are given crap.
Your mindless stupid bantz are finally paying off - sooner or later 442 will be useless.

I've always had time for posters like Decentric,Barca,VoiceOfReason etc. However arthturo or whatever his name is and High Kick, rabble on a bit.

Was going to post something like this today lol

Never posted much in AF, 1) Because apparently I'm a eurosnob and 2) I think the actual football knowledge of a large portion in there is laughable.

Ever since we couldn't comment on directly on articles, WF has gone down hill too. Good bunch of guys in there but used to be a lot better, every week there would be one or two incidents that would get everyone fired up but now with only a few regulars, it's near impossible.

Will probably stay around until the end of the season but it has really gone to shit.

Problem with decentric is that if question him , he'll just rabble on about knvb, his c licence and you dont have a licence so you cant comment. Paul c you got be kidding right. All he does is troll and if people bite he cracks on about the m80s (for a start he created the term and called anyone who defended a poster he didnt like a fellow m80)

:) :) :)

:lol:

Agree with sentiment. We have also of registered mods. Just not many ever visit here anymore.

Then you have mods in active threads were idiots are talking about all the fully sick ultras violence they will do if they can organise a meeting to punch on.....??

Makes you step back and think.. WTF is going on in this place.

You can blame mods if you like, demand new mods all you like, accuse some of allegiance, some of over reacting, some of not reacting hard enough - but the bottom line is, it is the behaviour of the posters that is fundamentally at fault here.

And there are few that are not tarred with that brush. Even OP in this thread admits he's been part of the problem - then complains about it and announces he quitting.

It is your reactions to one another that is causing the problem, not the mods. There is only so much they can do. They mod too hard, you complain. They mod with a lighter touch, you complain they're not hard enough.

This forum is what you guys make it. If you choose to make it feral, there's only so much the mods can do about that - and as such there's only so much I can do about it other than shut it down altogether.

Alternatively you could all try taking a few deep breaths before you rush to reply to someone, or start a new thread, or a new multi.

Otherwise, pretty soon it's going to be one guy talking to himself – or you'll just get a 404 error when you next try to access it.

Your call.

Nearly everyone has been guilty of trolling or going off topic sometimes, i dont think that's what the original poster was talking about. Banter is fine in small doses, but its the constant one upping, hate of a certain poster so they just troll what ever they say or the really bitter pathetic posts that are just there to cause trouble and get a reaction which is the problem.

Ive seen plenty of it even after this thread was created and mods have done nothing, pala seems like he does all the work around here lately, while the others you rarely even see, we just need a couple new volunteers that are on here on a regular basis to help out.

Some ppl just need to harden the fuck up

Yea we should all be tough like you luke

:) ;) :) ;)

Fair enough. I think the mods do a good job but just seems like only a handful are 'active users' now days.

A thinly veiled threat? :lol:

-PB

Ever since the forum got separated from the articles on the webpage, the community has been consistently shrinking. Without a constant stream of new members the group is stagnating, tension between members is rising, and conversation is becoming more stale. I think if we don't actually link it back to the site then eventually these forums will just fizzle out.

Spot on the money there. That moment could be seen as the downfall more than anything, now it's just the same people bickering over the same things again and again. It's moved from a place where anyone can come in and voice their opinion to now resembling a schoolyard.

no wonder the world is in the shape it's in....................

Thats a shame. I always liked coming here more than just going to team specific forums because you had multiple fans across epl and a-league with there point of view. Big events like Berishas Grandfinal dive would go on for weeks on end. It was fun.

I have met a few people on here and they have all been good guys. Still run into Scouse Roar by accidnet nearly every time Im in brisbane.

For me, the current pool of posters on the whole is ok, but it is the deluge of multis that is choking this place.
There not even clever multis that question or provoke discussion.

They are sad parodies of people trying to get a cheap argument because trolling is cool lulz.

They have become more frequent lately and we cant expect Erebus, Pala and Joffa to be here all the time.
This is the only reason I think we need more mods was to stem this crap trend.

But KA has a point some of these crap multis are existing posters that want to play a character just to attack/troll other people.

weak.

If that is the way I'm perceived by you, my apologies. I'm sure I have never said these things. I hope I haven't.#-o

I think I'm on record as saying many posters who disagree with positions I've taken have made valid points. The fact people express different views on football, including you, are the foundation for constructive discussion. It is why I participate on 442.

Hopefully, the only thing I'm dogmatic about are the tenets the FFA NC is based on and the practices we have adopted in Australia to improve our football.

There are a a couple of guys who come hard at me over defending a few things who have a had a long association in football. I may appreciate their perspectives, but they may not appreciate mine because in these particular issues I may have a more persuasive position than they would like.

I admit I have taken a strident stand against the phenomenon of Eurosnobism.

I have also learnt that I've been wrong and have had obsolete information on certain scenarios in leagues around the world.

Sorry, MVC Arsenal.#-o




Edited by Decentric: 24/11/2015 12:23:00 PM

X2

I've been worried about this too.

It seems like the 442 IT team cannot solve this problem.

cannot or have no reason to ? Would've been a reason why it happened in the first place.

Could you come back for a minute and fix up the title

It's annoying me

What's wrong with the title?

"ill" I'm assuming.

Posted: Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:55:45 AM

Last Visit:   Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:55:53 AM

True to his word, so far!

Shame, I found him a decent poster.

Yeah. :(

Hardly a surprise to see people barely visit or even read the forums any more. Just a bad place to discuss football now, and this particular sub-forum overtaken with Islamophobes and MRA's.

A shame, really, since there actually used to be worthwhile discussion and actual quality bants.

Maybe he has a multi overlooking it all :lol:

We can't all ascent to the lofty heights of Twitter stardom.

-PB

:lol: you'll have to bring in some more hipster douchbags from West End to even out the discussion with more left-wing ideas from our their arses :lol:

:lol: Maybe if one of them blesses us we can become as pious as they are :lol:

Edited by Risky: 27/11/2015 11:51:42 AM

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-PB

I personally am impressed by the inference that Scouse was in somehow involved in worthwhile and quality



Edited by Buggalugs - you should have listened... : 27/11/2015 01:47:32 PM

lol who even are these non-PB people shitposting