England DNA launched quest to create new playing style/player


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its easy to be cynical about this kind of thing for england. There are some good people in the game over there that have englands juniors interests at heart. But there are just so many coaches with long ball win at all costs mentality, it might take a few failed world cup campaigns and massive drops in world rankings for the community to take notice.
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"England DNA"?:lol:

Sounds like an attempt to produce better footballers by genetic engineering...
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Decentric wrote:
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I think there is merit in England's approach which appears to just be that they want to produce players capable of possession football yet don't appear to be mandating an actual system of play. There is an opportunity for the combination of club and national team coaches to create well rounded and flexible players capable of playing in varying formations.

Its interesting to note:

"Formation
England teams will play with tactical flexibility, based on the profile of the players available and the requirements of the match or competition."


At senior level there is no FFA mandated system.

As a development system for youth, the European powerhouses mandate a system which they contend creates better players.

Five countries, Spain, France, Holland, Belgium and Germany, all have the same system, a 1-4-3-3. The exception is Germany who has a 4-2-3-1. They've pushed the wingers further back in a line with the attacking mid.


While that may be true, the current system tends to gear all coaches who aren't former high level players into the 433 system.

Many who go through their qualifications have only what they have learnt in the course or by reading text books to fall back on. Its these guys that will be found out soonest when the pressure is on to win



Very good point.

For instance I've never been trained to coach the 3-5-2. I'm not that confident with it.

I'm very conformable with the 1-4-3-3 in its various midfield manifestations, 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3, 4-3-2-1, 4-5-1( 1:4 midfield), 4-4-2, with a bowl shape midfield , midfield diamond, 1:3 midfield or flat midfield. This is my belief from my coach education primarily being based on 1-4-3-3.

FFA would argue it is easier to extrapolate the methodology imparted in the 1-4-3-3 to other formations than for instance the 4-4-2 flat midfield.

Nevertheless, you make a compelling point, if it is accepted that players simply by playing for long periods have had exposure to high quality coaching in most systems of play.

My playing days all involved WM or 4-4-2. They weren't coached that effectively either.


Edited by Decentric: 10/12/2015 09:21:36 AM


Ive played in most formations at one stage or another, in fact we won two championships playing 352. 352 is a formation that really requires special types of players for those wing positions. If you don't have the players with big engines and speed to burn it will never succeed.

Once you get into senior football you need to take your style, implement it into a system but also consider the cattle you have available to you. Unless you have the financial clout to go and get the players to suit your style and system which for the most part NPL clubs and below don't have
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when losing put the biggest and fastest player up front and bulldozer your way thru to goal following the straight ball smacked from the 2nd fastest and biggest player at the back

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free kicks and corner kicks - just smack it for the 2nd ball, no inventiveness, no short play.

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2 sessions on midfield rotations for 9 aside when the defence has the ball, doesn't happen with 2-4-2 .
straight balls down the middle in the following game.
six yrd box in 9 aside, strong wind just smack the ball for 2nd ball football from goal kicks
goal kicks with 2-4-2 at goal kicks , outfield players form 3 side square all in vertical and horizontal lines


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formation influences the style of play, even at 9 aside, FA allow you the choice
so what sytle of play do you get with 2-4-2 on a 80x60 pitch, the 2 wide players re meant to be wingers and full backs, an impossibility to carry out, all they done is run a lot but never get the ball, as you end up with straight line football, over the top balls safely into oppo goalkeeper.

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Barca4Life wrote:
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FFA NC > FA DNA

just from experience of both


Why do you say this? An interesting observation.


starter for ten ,

1. you have 2 hour session twice a week
how much time would you spend each session
a) with the ball
b) length of coaching interventions for the whole group in a)
c) strength and conditioning
d) sports physcologist, nutrionist

this is for female u11 13 15 and 17 centre of excellence

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dirkvanadidas wrote:
FFA NC > FA DNA

just from experience of both


Why do you say this? An interesting observation.
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FFA NC > FA DNA

just from experience of both

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New Signing wrote:
Decentric wrote:
New Signing wrote:
I think there is merit in England's approach which appears to just be that they want to produce players capable of possession football yet don't appear to be mandating an actual system of play. There is an opportunity for the combination of club and national team coaches to create well rounded and flexible players capable of playing in varying formations.

Its interesting to note:

"Formation
England teams will play with tactical flexibility, based on the profile of the players available and the requirements of the match or competition."


At senior level there is no FFA mandated system.

As a development system for youth, the European powerhouses mandate a system which they contend creates better players.

Five countries, Spain, France, Holland, Belgium and Germany, all have the same system, a 1-4-3-3. The exception is Germany who has a 4-2-3-1. They've pushed the wingers further back in a line with the attacking mid.


While that may be true, the current system tends to gear all coaches who aren't former high level players into the 433 system.

Many who go through their qualifications have only what they have learnt in the course or by reading text books to fall back on. Its these guys that will be found out soonest when the pressure is on to win



Very good point.

For instance I've never been trained to coach the 3-5-2. I'm not that confident with it.

I'm very conformable with the 1-4-3-3 in its various midfield manifestations, 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3, 4-3-2-1, 4-5-1( 1:4 midfield), 4-4-2, with a bowl shape midfield , midfield diamond, 1:3 midfield or flat midfield. This is my belief from my coach education primarily being based on 1-4-3-3.

FFA would argue it is easier to extrapolate the methodology imparted in the 1-4-3-3 to other formations than for instance the 4-4-2 flat midfield.

Nevertheless, you make a compelling point, if it is accepted that players simply by playing for long periods have had exposure to high quality coaching in most systems of play.

My playing days all involved WM or 4-4-2. They weren't coached that effectively either.


Edited by Decentric: 10/12/2015 09:21:36 AM
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Decentric wrote:
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I think there is merit in England's approach which appears to just be that they want to produce players capable of possession football yet don't appear to be mandating an actual system of play. There is an opportunity for the combination of club and national team coaches to create well rounded and flexible players capable of playing in varying formations.

Its interesting to note:

"Formation
England teams will play with tactical flexibility, based on the profile of the players available and the requirements of the match or competition."


At senior level there is no FFA mandated system.

As a development system for youth, the European powerhouses mandate a system which they contend creates better players.

Five countries, Spain, France, Holland, Belgium and Germany, all have the same system, a 1-4-3-3. The exception is Germany who has a 4-2-3-1. They've pushed the wingers further back in a line with the attacking mid.


While that may be true, the current system tends to gear all coaches who aren't former high level players into the 433 system.

Many who go through their qualifications have only what they have learnt in the course or by reading text books to fall back on. Its these guys that will be found out soonest when the pressure is on to win
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I think there is merit in England's approach which appears to just be that they want to produce players capable of possession football yet don't appear to be mandating an actual system of play. There is an opportunity for the combination of club and national team coaches to create well rounded and flexible players capable of playing in varying formations.

Its interesting to note:

"Formation
England teams will play with tactical flexibility, based on the profile of the players available and the requirements of the match or competition."


At senior level there is no FFA mandated system.

As a development system for youth, the European powerhouses mandate a system which they contend creates better players.

Five countries, Spain, France, Holland, Belgium and Germany, all have the same system, a 1-4-3-3. The exception is Germany who has a 4-2-3-1. They've pushed the wingers further back in a line with the attacking mid.
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I think there is merit in England's approach which appears to just be that they want to produce players capable of possession football yet don't appear to be mandating an actual system of play. There is an opportunity for the combination of club and national team coaches to create well rounded and flexible players capable of playing in varying formations.

Its interesting to note:

"Formation
England teams will play with tactical flexibility, based on the profile of the players available and the requirements of the match or competition."

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Barca4Life wrote:
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The English need to mandate a holistic system for it to work.

Too many coaches can still ignore ignore what the head branch, FA, wants coaches to do.


You mean by a systematic choice like what we are doing here? i.e 4-3-3?

I think they want to work on all 3 thirds rather than use a template system for any aspiring junior coach, perhaps this is already happening who knows but i suspect their football knowledge they could quickly adapt this new approach more quickly than us?


Yes.
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Decentric wrote:
The English need to mandate a holistic system for it to work.

Too many coaches can still ignore ignore what the head branch, FA, wants coaches to do.


You mean by a systematic choice like what we are doing here? i.e 4-3-3?

I think they want to work on all 3 thirds rather than use a template system for any aspiring junior coach, perhaps this is already happening who knows but i suspect their football knowledge they could quickly adapt this new approach more quickly than us?
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Good article, Barca.
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The English need to mandate a holistic system for it to work.

Too many coaches can still ignore ignore what the head branch, FA, wants coaches to do.
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Interesting evolution coming up in English football alot like what we are have been trying to do in the last 5 years where we want to change our football and the type of player being produced.

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EnglandDNA.com launched at The FA's coaching conference
Read more at http://www.thefa.com/news/st-georges-park/2015/dec/england-dna-website-launched#EheX3qXHAe4kocp4.99


Clubs and coaches, at all levels of the game, can learn more about the playing and coaching philosophy of the England teams through the new EnglandDNA.com website.

The website - launched at the start of the FA national coaching conference, England DNA: Connecting the Game - features a series of interviews with FA technical staff outlining the vision for future England teams and players and the importance of a consistent and co-ordinated coaching approach for all England age-group teams.

Matt Crocker, FA Head of Development Team Coaching, hopes the EnglandDNA.com website will help to strengthen relationships with all those involved in English player development at all levels of the game.

“One of the aims we set out at the start of the England DNA project was to be open with everyone in the game and provide an insight into our beliefs on young player development and how the England teams operate,” explained Crocker.

“We hope that by releasing detail of the DNA methodology through the EnglandDNA.com website it will continue the communication process and also play a key part in supporting the ongoing education of coaches who will be encouraged to use the site as part of their studies.

Crocker added: “Coaches will be also encouraged to apply the ideas in their own context at the clubs they work at different levels of the game.”

Stars of future urged to 'Love the ball, love the game'

Aspiring generations of future England players are being encouraged to "Love the ball, love the game."

It's all part of the launch of new age-related guidelines designed to help coaches in their work with young players and provide a clear pathway for the development of future England internationals.

The England DNA age-phase priorities, which highlight the importance of 'staying on the ball and mastering the ball', 'exciting with the ball and seeking creative solutions', as well as 'Intelligent defending' and 'outwitting your opponent' have been launched at the four-day FA National Coaching Conference, England DNA: Connecting the game, which started at St George’s Park on Friday.

And FA technical director Dan Ashworth believes the nine headlines will help coaches at all levels of the game work more effectively with young players.

"Since launching the England DNA framework last December, we have worked in collaboration with the professional and grassroots game to establish some clear and simple guidelines for those working with young players in the three age-phases of youth development: 5-11 ; 12-16 ; 17-21," said Ashworth.

"We hope the England DNA age-phase guidelines – which you can learn more about through the new EnglandDNA.com website - provide ideas and inspiration for those that seek age-appropriate support for their work."

The development of the England DNA age-phase framework comes at the conclusion of the 12 month-long England DNA Leadership group which has seen FA technical staff working alongside experts from the professional and grassroots game as well as other sports, academia and research.

Ashworth has been enthused by the collaborative way of working.

"Encouragingly, the England DNA project has shown how different elements of the game and other sports and institutions can come together to share ideas and expertise on player development," he explained.

"We hope the launch of the guidelines will create further discussion and opportunities to collaborate with all those interested in this area," added Ashworth.

500 coaches are expected to continue the discussion about the importance of connecting each stage of a young player’s journey at this weekend’s annual coaching event.

Ashworth believes the best coaches working with young players have a clear view of the whole development journey.

"Whether your coaching role is to provide an enjoyable introduction to the game at the foundation phase or to expertly guide a 17-21 year old into the senior game – it is crucial to understand where the players in your care have come from and where they may go to next, tailoring your approach accordingly," explained Ashworth.

Pete Sturgess, FA Technical lead for the foundation phase, stresses that the development of future creative and technical players who can play the ‘England DNA way’ starts with the type of play encouraged with the very youngest players.

"Instead of players taking the easy option and playing the easy pass or kicking the ball out of play easily, we want coaches to say to young players ‘can you start something good for our team by staying on the ball and by trying to shield the ball and stay in possession’. We want to keep possession rather than surrendering it really cheaply," he explained.

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England Under-16s head coach Dan Micciche
Dan Micciche has provided his input into the new England DNA coaching guidelines

It is an approach, echoed by Dan Micciche, FA Technical Lead for players 12-16, who also identifies intelligent defending as a key part to attacking more effectively.

"In order to play an expansive attacking style the players have to be prepared to defend 1v1 or maybe outnumbered and they need to be able to able to cope in those situations.

"One of the other headlines is ‘winning the ball cleanly’. So for example, when the ball is in the air and the defender goes up to head the ball they should be looking for a cushioned header into a midfield player or look to bring the ball down on their chest, as opposed to heading the ball off the pitch."

Alongside the focus on intelligent play, FA Technical Lead 17-21 Neil Dewsnip, stresses that core defending techniques haven’t been forgotten.

"We still have to develop an attitude that the players want to defend. Equally as important are the skills of defending the goal which is crucial at every stage along a young players journey," explained Dewnsip.

The FA National Coaching conference England DNA: Connecting the game takes place on 4-7 December at St George’s Park.

The four-day conference will explore how to connect each stage of a player’s development journey in order to provide a positive experience of the game.

To learn more about the England DNA and the age-phase priorities visit www.EnglandDNA.com

Follow @StGeorgesPark for highlights from the conference.


Read more at http://www.thefa.com/news/st-georges-park/2015/dec/england-dna-age-phase-priorities-041215#HBqmm44JhBpvrdEX.99

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