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Do you consider it acceptable that in Australia there is government owned media organisations, such as the ABC & SBS? Should all media be privately operated only?
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Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.
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BETHFC wrote:
Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.


Jesus how does this bollocks keep getting sprouted despite Audit after Audit finding that it is completely false.

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melbourne_terrace wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.


Jesus how does this bollocks keep getting sprouted despite Audit after Audit finding that it is completely false.

This :lol:
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Eastern Glory wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.


Jesus how does this bollocks keep getting sprouted despite Audit after Audit finding that it is completely false.

This :lol:

And this .
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Eastern Glory wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.


Jesus how does this bollocks keep getting sprouted despite Audit after Audit finding that it is completely false.

This :lol:

And this .

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The only people claiming the ABC are biased are those clearly representing the bias of the Murdoch empire and those who fear impartiality in the media.

Laughable...if you think they're biased......prove it!
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The same lin gets trottes out every couple of months and people actually buy it. And when audits after audit clear the abc and sbs of bias people be like thats a lie . That audit is rigged
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All media is bias.
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Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said
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u4486662 wrote:
All media is bias.

Ohhhh can you and your PHD brain just go back to your corner of Canberra and stop being right for once?!

We're trying to bash conservative pawns here :lol:
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
The same lin gets trottes out every couple of months and people actually buy it. And when audits after audit clear the abc and sbs of bias people be like thats a lie . That audit is rigged


There's bias and then there's selective reporting and charged wording. It's the same on both sides.

I don't need to buy it, I just read their articles on mining and laugh. Especially the ones our mate Murdochs Rags puts out.
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Pertinent. No different in Australia.

[youtube]I8bihhjH3nI[/youtube]
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said

ABC and SBS is left leaning. Commercial TV is largely populist. Channel 10 leans to the left, channel 9 to the right. Sky news is also right leaning.

All media is bias. In other countries they know this and don't hide it. FOX news is right and MSNBC is left.

Same with newspapers of course. They all push agendas.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said


:lol: some of it is.

Things are said but no one cares what lefties say. They need to shut up and make more coffees ;)
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Nothing wrong with government owned stations so long as people are aware of it, which in Australia, they are...

What's more troubling is people rely on things like Sunrise and Today as gospel.
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Nothing wrong with government owned stations so long as people are aware of it, which in Australia, they are...

What's more troubling is people rely on things like Sunrise and Today as gospel.


What is the issue with those programs? They're reporting News just like everyone else. Do you see the issue is the selective way they present news? I've seen this argument made.
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u4486662 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said

ABC and SBS is left leaning. Commercial TV is largely populist. Channel 10 leans to the left, channel 9 to the right. Sky news is also right leaning.

All media is bias. In other countries they know this and don't hide it. FOX news is right and MSNBC is left.

Same with newspapers of course. They all push agendas.

An audit of the ABC found that it was, if anything, right leaning. That said, because it's more factually based, it's no wonder that it gets labelled left leaning. Evidence & critical thinking is more typical of the left.
Funny statement about Channel 10 being left leaning - heard of the Bolt Report...? :lol:
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JP wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Eastern Glory wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.


Jesus how does this bollocks keep getting sprouted despite Audit after Audit finding that it is completely false.

This :lol:

And this .


And this again!
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melbourne_terrace wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.


Jesus how does this bollocks keep getting sprouted despite Audit after Audit finding that it is completely false.


This explains why

[youtube]I8bihhjH3nI[/youtube]

Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 2/2/2016 10:32:13 AM
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.


Jesus how does this bollocks keep getting sprouted despite Audit after Audit finding that it is completely false.


This explains why

[youtube]I8bihhjH3nI[/youtube]

Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 2/2/2016 10:32:13 AM


Sorry mate, at work, can't watch youtube clips.
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BETHFC wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.


Jesus how does this bollocks keep getting sprouted despite Audit after Audit finding that it is completely false.


This explains why

[youtube]I8bihhjH3nI[/youtube]


Sorry mate, at work, can't watch youtube clips.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll pay that!
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Providing they are not propaganda machines for the ruling party.

The ABC are a waste of money. Their bias is excruciating.


Jesus how does this bollocks keep getting sprouted despite Audit after Audit finding that it is completely false.


This explains why

[youtube]I8bihhjH3nI[/youtube]


Sorry mate, at work, can't watch youtube clips.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll pay that!


If I click play I count down from 30 until I get an angry email telling me to do some work :lol:
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said

ABC and SBS is left leaning. Commercial TV is largely populist. Channel 10 leans to the left, channel 9 to the right. Sky news is also right leaning.

All media is bias. In other countries they know this and don't hide it. FOX news is right and MSNBC is left.

Same with newspapers of course. They all push agendas.

An audit of the ABC found that it was, if anything, right leaning. That said, because it's more factually based, it's no wonder that it gets labelled left leaning. Evidence & critical thinking is more typical of the left.
Funny statement about Channel 10 being left leaning - heard of the Bolt Report...? :lol:

Was waiting for this.

The bolt report has been cancelled and was on once per week on like a Sunday morning.
Conversely the project is on every weeknight on primetime.

Thats all you need to know.

The audits of the ABC concerned their news coverage and current affair programs like lateline and 7:30.

It did not cover other programs like Q and A, or programming in general, or the morning ABC shows. Programming in general on the ABC is left leaning. There is an incentive for the ABC to remain left leaning as left leaning governments are less likely to make cuts to public broadcasting.
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u4486662 wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said

ABC and SBS is left leaning. Commercial TV is largely populist. Channel 10 leans to the left, channel 9 to the right. Sky news is also right leaning.

All media is bias. In other countries they know this and don't hide it. FOX news is right and MSNBC is left.

Same with newspapers of course. They all push agendas.

An audit of the ABC found that it was, if anything, right leaning. That said, because it's more factually based, it's no wonder that it gets labelled left leaning. Evidence & critical thinking is more typical of the left.
Funny statement about Channel 10 being left leaning - heard of the Bolt Report...? :lol:

Was waiting for this.

The bolt report has been cancelled and was on once per week on like a Sunday morning.
Conversely the project is on every weeknight on primetime.

Thats all you need to know.

The audits of the ABC concerned their news coverage and current affair programs like lateline and 7:30.

It did not cover other programs like Q and A, or programming in general, or the morning ABC shows. Programming in general on the ABC is left leaning. There is an incentive for the ABC to remain left leaning as left leaning governments are less likely to make cuts to public broadcasting.


Please sir, this is another conservative bashing thread. Please keep your logic out of this thread =p~
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u4486662 wrote:
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u4486662 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said

ABC and SBS is left leaning. Commercial TV is largely populist. Channel 10 leans to the left, channel 9 to the right. Sky news is also right leaning.

All media is bias. In other countries they know this and don't hide it. FOX news is right and MSNBC is left.

Same with newspapers of course. They all push agendas.

An audit of the ABC found that it was, if anything, right leaning. That said, because it's more factually based, it's no wonder that it gets labelled left leaning. Evidence & critical thinking is more typical of the left.
Funny statement about Channel 10 being left leaning - heard of the Bolt Report...? :lol:

Was waiting for this.

The bolt report has been cancelled and was on once per week on like a Sunday morning.
Conversely the project is on every weeknight on primetime.

Thats all you need to know.

The audits of the ABC concerned their news coverage and current affair programs like lateline and 7:30.

It did not cover other programs like Q and A, or programming in general, or the morning ABC shows. Programming in general on the ABC is left leaning. There is an incentive for the ABC to remain left leaning as left leaning governments are less likely to make cuts to public broadcasting.

So you don't have evidence to support your claim (not that I would I care if it was left leaning - I'd be surprised & in fact disappointed if it wasn't)
But as for incentives, it is a false equivalence to compare the implicit incentive of the free market dollar to government funding. Hence, no wonder that most privately owned media is right wing leaning. Sound bites sell......:idea:
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The reality is that the ABC actually airs left wing and right wing opinion. FTA networks air populist (which means sometimes leftwing but often right wing) and outright right wing opinion.

The fact that left wing opinions actually get aired, does not mean the broadcaster "leans left wing".

IF you watched the ABC breakfast show, they do the review of the day's headlines with various people - including people from free market thinktanks. In fact, the guy on this morning was from a libertarian thinktank.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said

ABC and SBS is left leaning. Commercial TV is largely populist. Channel 10 leans to the left, channel 9 to the right. Sky news is also right leaning.

All media is bias. In other countries they know this and don't hide it. FOX news is right and MSNBC is left.

Same with newspapers of course. They all push agendas.

An audit of the ABC found that it was, if anything, right leaning. That said, because it's more factually based, it's no wonder that it gets labelled left leaning. Evidence & critical thinking is more typical of the left.
Funny statement about Channel 10 being left leaning - heard of the Bolt Report...? :lol:


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Captain Haddock wrote:
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u4486662 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said

ABC and SBS is left leaning. Commercial TV is largely populist. Channel 10 leans to the left, channel 9 to the right. Sky news is also right leaning.

All media is bias. In other countries they know this and don't hide it. FOX news is right and MSNBC is left.

Same with newspapers of course. They all push agendas.

An audit of the ABC found that it was, if anything, right leaning. That said, because it's more factually based, it's no wonder that it gets labelled left leaning. Evidence & critical thinking is more typical of the left.
Funny statement about Channel 10 being left leaning - heard of the Bolt Report...? :lol:


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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Commerical tv is biased to the right . But nothing is said


:roll:

The Australian media networks much like the left-right political spectrum are becoming increasingly indistinguishable. They serve a globalist belief system, as long as that platform isn't threatened the rest is just a theatrical song and dance of finger pointing and petty squabbles in my opinion.

If commercial TV is so "Right" leaning, then why are typical "Right" topics like closed borders, Disagreeing with gay marriage, Traditional patriarchy for example always shed in such a disparaging light.

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