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My guess is studying maths & science in Year 11 & 12 gives a greater chance of inoculation, by teaching critical thinking Quote:Our brains don’t let piddling little facts get in the way of a good story, allowing lies to infect the mind with surprising ease. If you ever need proof of human gullibility, cast your mind back to the attack of the flesh-eating bananas. In January 2000, a series of chain emails began reporting that imported bananas were infecting people with “necrotizing fasciitis” – a rare disease in which the skin erupts into livid purple boils before disintegrating and peeling away from muscle and bone. According to the email chain, the FDA was trying to cover up the epidemic to avoid panic. Faced with the threat, readers were encouraged to spread the word to their friends and family. The threat was pure nonsense, of course. But by 28 January, the concern was great enough for the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to issue a statement decrying the rumour. Did it help? Did it heck. Rather than quelling the rumour, they had only poured fuel on its flames. Within weeks, the CDC was hearing from so many distressed callers it had to set up a banana hotline. The facts became so distorted that people eventually started to quote the CDC as the source of the rumour. Even today, new variants of the myth have occasionally reignited those old fears. We may laugh at these far-fetched urban myths – as ridiculous as the ongoing theory that Paul McCartney, Miley Cyrus and Megan Fox have all been killed and replaced with lookalikes. But the same cracks in our logic allow the propagation of far more dangerous ideas, such as the belief that HIV is harmless and vitamin supplements can cure AIDS, that 9/11 was an ‘inside job’ by the US government, or that a tinfoil hat will stop the FBI from reading your thoughts. Why do so many false beliefs persist in the face of hard evidence? And why do attempts to deny them only add grist to the rumour mill? It's not a question of intelligence – even Nobel Prize winners have fallen for some bizarre and baseless theories. But a series of recent psychological advances may offer some answers, showing how easy it is to construct a rumour that bypasses the brain’s deception filters. One, somewhat humbling, explanation is that we are all “cognitive misers” – to save time and energy, our brains use intuition rather than analysis...... ....Consider the questions of whether others believe a statement or not, and whether the source is credible. We tend to trust people who are familiar to us, meaning that the more we see a talking head, the more we will begrudgingly start to believe what they say. “ The fact that they aren’t an expert won’t even come into our judgement of the truth,” says Newman. What’s more, we fail to keep count of the number of people supporting a view; when that talking head repeats their idea on endless news programmes, it creates the illusion that the opinion is more popular and pervasive than it really is. Again, the result is that we tend to accept it as the truth.... .... Lab experiments confirm that offering counter-evidence only strengthens someone’s conviction.... http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160323-why-are-people-so-incredibly-gullible
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the irony of you posting about" Why are people so incredibly gullible?" yet still believing in man-made climate change
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GDeathe wrote:the irony of you posting about" Why are people so incredibly gullible?" yet still believing in man-made climate change :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh, to live a life inside an echo chamber..... It's been said that the causal link between humans and global warming in the last half century or so is stronger the link between HIV & AIDS. Never mind the thousands of peer reviewed papers....
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Or just let people be. -PB
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:GDeathe wrote:the irony of you posting about" Why are people so incredibly gullible?" yet still believing in man-made climate change :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh, to live a life inside an echo chamber..... It's been said that the causal link between humans and global warming in the last half century or so is stronger the link between HIV & AIDS. Never mind the thousands of peer reviewed papers.... Yet even a moderate volcano can release more pollution than all of mankind throughout history. Why are you so gullible? I blame your stupid Gaia religion.
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[youtube]CAPfwwb59uY[/youtube]
hello Maldives
Sea levels are actually falling, but some islands are receding because of ocean sand dredging. You dredge the sand, the sand on land erodes into the sea and the island disappears.
Edited by Dr Ben Carson: 25/3/2016 04:42:29 PM
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paulbagzFC wrote:Or just let people be.
-PB What does that even mean?
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This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than an entire scientific consensus?
Wake the fuck up guys.
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You know what? I'm not even going to reply to the barrage of "lel conformist!" posts that will undoubtedly start to be posted in here.
You're all educated enough to be able to read, so I suggest you stop reading right wing tabloid "science" by people that have degrees in law and business, who just so happen to be in political parties heavily funded by the mining, oil and manufacturing industries.
Here's an idea - your opinions are going to make your children look even stupider than you already do. Do yourselves a favour and actually make an effort to research this shit, because you're all on ricecrackers level of stupidity at the moment.
PS: Volcanoes emit a maximum 319 million tonnes of CO2 a year. Fossil fuel usage released 29 billion tonnes of CO2 in 2007 alone. Do you even statistics?
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Draupnir wrote:This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than [size=8]an entire scientific consensus[/size]?
Wake the fuck up guys. LOL What scientific qualifications do you have mister?
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Dr Ben Carson wrote:Draupnir wrote:This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than [size=8]an entire scientific consensus[/size]?
Wake the fuck up guys. LOL What scientific qualifications do you have mister? Two masters' degrees, why? Anyway, yet another shitty multi. I'm all for multis that are actually decent, but this place has just gone to shit because there are so many and because there are for real actual morons on here that think there are scientific conspiracies and "marxist" conspiracies about global warming and immigration while they sit around calling people "lefties", without having read a single scientific paper in their lives. It's really just embarrassing. I actually feel sorry for you that you grew up in a developed western country only to actually reduce yourself to thinking that would barely fit in in the 16th century. I have better things to do than socialise with you. I'm out. Edited by Draupnir: 25/3/2016 08:10:49 PM
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Draupnir wrote:Dr Ben Carson wrote:Draupnir wrote:This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than [size=8]an entire scientific consensus[/size]?
Wake the fuck up guys. LOL What scientific qualifications do you have mister? Two masters' degrees, why? Anyway, yet another shitty multi. I'm all for multis that are actually decent, but this place has just gone to shit because there are so many and because there are for real actual morons on here that think there are scientific conspiracies and "marxist" conspiracies about global warming and immigration while they sit around calling people "lefties", without having read a single scientific paper in their lives. It's really just embarrassing. I actually feel sorry for you that you grew up in a developed western country only to actually reduce yourself to thinking that would barely fit in in the 16th century. I have better things to do than socialise with you. I'm out. Yep this is the inevitable end game for anyone with any semblance of maturity and intelligence.
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mcjules wrote:Draupnir wrote:Dr Ben Carson wrote:Draupnir wrote:This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than [size=8]an entire scientific consensus[/size]?
Wake the fuck up guys. LOL What scientific qualifications do you have mister? Two masters' degrees, why? Anyway, yet another shitty multi. I'm all for multis that are actually decent, but this place has just gone to shit because there are so many and because there are for real actual morons on here that think there are scientific conspiracies and "marxist" conspiracies about global warming and immigration while they sit around calling people "lefties", without having read a single scientific paper in their lives. It's really just embarrassing. I actually feel sorry for you that you grew up in a developed western country only to actually reduce yourself to thinking that would barely fit in in the 16th century. I have better things to do than socialise with you. I'm out. Yep this is the inevitable end game for anyone with any semblance of maturity and intelligence. Is that a peer reviewed conclusion ?
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Draupnir wrote:Dr Ben Carson wrote:Draupnir wrote:This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than [size=8]an entire scientific consensus[/size]?
Wake the fuck up guys. LOL What scientific qualifications do you have mister? Two masters' degrees, why? Anyway, yet another shitty multi. I'm all for multis that are actually decent, but this place has just gone to shit because there are so many and because there are for real actual morons on here that think there are scientific conspiracies and "marxist" conspiracies about global warming and immigration while they sit around calling people "lefties", without having read a single scientific paper in their lives. It's really just embarrassing. I actually feel sorry for you that you grew up in a developed western country only to actually reduce yourself to thinking that would barely fit in in the 16th century. I have better things to do than socialise with you. I'm out. Edited by Draupnir: 25/3/2016 08:10:49 PM Two masters degrees in what field? I note you left out that minor detail.
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Draupnir wrote:This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than an entire scientific consensus?
Wake the fuck up guys. The scientific method is based on disbelieving any consensus, and all great advances have come from ignoring the consensus. There is only a media consensus.
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People are gullible, did not know that before, but now you have told me it must be true, thank you for telling me.
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I'm confused, are there genuine climate change deniers here?
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Or just let people be.
-PB What does that even mean? Means why do you give a fuck? -PB
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KiwiChick1 wrote:I'm confused, are there genuine climate change deniers here? absolutely not. im an avid believer of climate change...although its a matter of nitpicking the research to try and weed out the agendas not hijacked by the Left. its seems the Lefties want to hijack everything and claim it as their own, from LGBT agendas to environmental agendas, to even islamic incursions into our society. Dont get me wrong im not a right wing nut, i despise them too..since they play the fear card to gain votes but the environment agenda has being somewhat hijacked by the Left
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Dr Ben Carson wrote:Draupnir wrote:Dr Ben Carson wrote:Draupnir wrote:This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than [size=8]an entire scientific consensus[/size]?
Wake the fuck up guys. LOL What scientific qualifications do you have mister? Two masters' degrees, why? Anyway, yet another shitty multi. I'm all for multis that are actually decent, but this place has just gone to shit because there are so many and because there are for real actual morons on here that think there are scientific conspiracies and "marxist" conspiracies about global warming and immigration while they sit around calling people "lefties", without having read a single scientific paper in their lives. It's really just embarrassing. I actually feel sorry for you that you grew up in a developed western country only to actually reduce yourself to thinking that would barely fit in in the 16th century. I have better things to do than socialise with you. I'm out. Two masters degrees in what field? I note you left out that minor detail. I take your posts to imply that unless one has a specific field of education, they cannot express their opinion on a specific body of knowledge in said field. Taken to its zenith, mankind would struggle to act on any knowledge because of the 7 billion people on the planet only, say, 100 people could act on it because the 100 are the only 'experts' on a specific area of knowledge. A bit like me not trusting an engineer for the foundations of a house, as I don't have master of structural engineering. Or sharing my opinion on the diagnosis of cancer, as I am not a specialist oncologist. My guess is your posts are made, because on the surface it will tend to obfuscate the issue of global warming by creating self-doubt within the more weak minded. Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 26/3/2016 11:23:10 AM
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paulbagzFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Or just let people be.
-PB What does that even mean? Means why do you give a fuck? -PB Do you mean in why do I care about gullibility? I am purely referencing an article with its underlying psychological & sociological science. Reactions to said science, are typically because people hate their lazy worldview being threatened or shattered
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Crusader wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:GDeathe wrote:the irony of you posting about" Why are people so incredibly gullible?" yet still believing in man-made climate change :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh, to live a life inside an echo chamber..... It's been said that the causal link between humans and global warming in the last half century or so is stronger the link between HIV & AIDS. Never mind the thousands of peer reviewed papers.... Yet even a moderate volcano can release more pollution than all of mankind throughout history. Why are you so gullible? I blame your stupid Gaia religion. A typical volcanic eruption releases ash that has a short to medium term cooling effect on the planet, by filtering solar irradiance Eruptions in recent times have typically only had a cooling effect for about 6 to 18 months (of the top of my head) Once the ash & sulphur dissipates, global warming continues unabated The whole purpose of peer reviewed science & its study its to minimise or possibly even eliminate gullibility, so I am fairly confident I would be on the lower end of the gullibility 'scale'. You might want to educate yourself on the concept of 'standing on the shoulders of giants' as it relates to peer reviewed science, unless of course you choose to remain wilfully ignorant.
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Dr Ben Carson wrote:[youtube]CAPfwwb59uY[/youtube]
hello Maldives
Sea levels are actually falling, but some islands are receding because of ocean sand dredging. You dredge the sand, the sand on land erodes into the sea and the island disappears. If the video is meant to refute global warming, a simple eyeballing of graphs of global average temperature over the last 5 odd decades listed by numerous governmental & scientific bodies would be more than sufficient to support the evidence base. Unless of course one denies the science of physics & chemistry that goes into the 'mechanics' of thermometers that record said temperatures...:lol:
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Crusader wrote:Draupnir wrote:This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than an entire scientific consensus?
Wake the fuck up guys. The scientific method is based on disbelieving any consensus, and all great advances have come from ignoring the consensus. There is only a media consensus. No the scientific method is based eliminating as many confounding variables as possible, so there can be an increasing level of certainty in the results, for which to draw inferences & base conclusions on. The media is irrelevant to science, except for simplifying its message for communication to the masses.
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KiwiChick1 wrote:I'm confused, are there genuine climate change deniers here? Yes, millions of people continue to deny the science of human induced global warming The annual study of Australian attitudes in 2014 by the CSIRO found that only 45.9% of Australians accepted the science of human induced global warming. So more than 1 in 2 Australians do not accept that humans are the cause of global warming in the last 100+ years http://www.csiro.au/en/Research/LWF/Areas/Social-economic/Climate-change/Climate-attitudes-survey(PDF survey on page linked) Its worth noting that, in Australia, 75% of right wing voters make up the total body of global warming deniers Another paper from the United States found more than 80% of republicans comprise the body of global warming deniers. So you see ignorance of the science is by & large from the right wing. Unfortunately, people on here tend to not like hearing this & other research into right wing ideology (IQ, education, sociology, psychology, neurology, etc, etc). My guess is because those not as informed on the issue probably tend to think the right v left (which by the way is not dichotomous, but often in academia is referenced as being along a scale) position of individuals is purely an either/or choice, as in preference for chocolate or strawberry ice cream. Based on drawing inferences from the large body of available science, I would argue its not either/or, but rather better/poorer or more specifically more effortful thinking/less effortful thinking.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Or just let people be.
-PB What does that even mean? Means why do you give a fuck? -PB Do you mean in why do I care about gullibility? I am purely referencing an article with its underlying psychological & sociological science. Reactions to said science, are typically because people hate their lazy worldview being threatened or shattered You're as bad as the guy who comes knocking on my door on the weekends, telling me Jesus is coming soon. Stick to preaching to the choir. Edited by SocaWho: 26/3/2016 01:53:06 PM
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What would be worth investigating is whether gullibility correlates more with right or left wing ideology.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:What would be worth investigating is whether gullibility correlates more with right or left wing ideology. If being gullible means pissing you off...then thats what I am. oh by the way. Fuck you. :lol:
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We are all inherently gullible. It's the only way to efficiently make sense of the world. If we spent the time looking into and understanding everything we would get no where.
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SocaWho wrote:Don't get me wrong im not a right wing nut Your weak ongoing need to personally attack people, because of your inability to take the more complex road of evidence based reasoning in discussion would suggest otherwise
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Murdoch Rags Ltd: Demands peer reviewed research and evidence based data to back up arguments he disagrees with. Rejects Capitalism because of hand picked information that supports his opinion. In saying that, an interesting video on this very topic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7MTM4BKZ_E
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote: I take your posts to imply that unless one has a specific field of education, they cannot express their opinion on a specific body of knowledge in said field.]
I have legit seen you on numerous occasions belittle someone for expressing an opinion on a scientific topic without a science degree. :lol:
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BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote: I take your posts to imply that unless one has a specific field of education, they cannot express their opinion on a specific body of knowledge in said field.]
I have legit seen you on numerous occasions belittle someone for expressing an opinion on a scientific topic without a science degree. :lol: I think you have misunderstood my post
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Crusader wrote:Draupnir wrote:This thread is so fucking sad. 3 people already thinking that they know more than an entire scientific consensus?
Wake the fuck up guys. The scientific method is based on disbelieving any consensus, and all great advances have come from ignoring the consensus. There is only a media consensus. The scientific method is based on gathering empirical evidence. Sometimes that supports the consensus, sometimes it opposes it. By your logic are we supposed to disbelieve the consensus on gravity? A spherical earth? A solar system that revolves around the sun instead of the earth?
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:What would be worth investigating is whether gullibility correlates more with right or left wing ideology. The problem is with the advent of identity politics, both sides are susceptible. At present, when it comes to climate change it is generally right wingers who deny the science. When it comes to GMO scaremongering, it is "the left" that deny the science. When it comes to anti-vaxxers, it can be the left (think that vaccines are somehow dangerous because they are "unnatural") or the right (think there is some government conspiracy behind injecting us all). It just depends what topic you want to look at. The problem is identity politics, and tribal thinking. Learning critical analysis should be compulsory in every school, as this is what the problem actually is.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote: I take your posts to imply that unless one has a specific field of education, they cannot express their opinion on a specific body of knowledge in said field.]
I have legit seen you on numerous occasions belittle someone for expressing an opinion on a scientific topic without a science degree. :lol: I think you have misunderstood my post If so I apologise.
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AzzaMarch wrote:When it comes to GMO scaremongering, it is "the left" that deny the science. In my experience, the basis given for GMO rejection is typically misrepresented, even by those in academia (which is disappointing) Many who reject GMO is not because of the food itself (the misrepresentation) - plenty of food is genetically modified already - it is to do with the unknown long term potential for ecological balance. To be blunt and put it in terms of 'left v right' and simplify it somewhat, it's the right that want to plough ahead with GMO because they are driven by greed & there's money to be made and they will misrepresent the left's view that they are 'pro' world hunger to manipulate society into action; when deep down the right couldn't give a shit if millions of people die, so long as money can be made. History is littered with examples of money at the expense of the environment - just look at the mining industry.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote: In my experience, the basis given for GMO rejection is typically misrepresented, even by those in academia (which is disappointing)
Walk into a science lecture at university and ask why people reject GMO's. My wager is on the vast majority being because it's un-natural and thus unhealthy. Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote: Many who reject GMO is not because of the food itself (the misrepresentation) - plenty of food is genetically modified already - it is to do with the unknown long term potential for ecological balance.
In places where GMO's could really make a difference, there is no ecological balance at present. I think this is a piss-take of an argument. Look at half of Africa. A century of unsustainable farming techniques has screwed them. Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote: To be blunt and put it in terms of 'left v right' and simplify it somewhat,
:lol: You have no problem doing this very thing in like every other thread :lol: Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote: it's the right that want to plough ahead with GMO because they are driven by greed & there's money to be made
What nonsense. They're driven by the need to feed people. What a dishonest comment based on nothing but heresy and your own bias. Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote: they will misrepresent the left's view that they are 'pro' world hunger to manipulate society into action; when deep down the right couldn't give a shit if millions of people die, so long as money can be made.
Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense. You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote: History is littered with examples of money at the expense of the environment - just look at the mining industry.
:lol: There are literally like 200 individually mined components in whatever device you typed this intellectually dishonest post on my friend. What you ignore (because it doesn't fit your narrative) is that mining literally anything is a learning process. Shit they used to (and still sometimes do) mine with cyanide and mercury to break down ore. To make the hard drive in your computer they have to 'wash' the ore in sodium hydroxide. You can try and claim moral high ground all you want princess but until you actually understand mining processes instead of just copying and pasting articles off the internet, you're blowing steam out of your ass.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:it is to do with the unknown long term potential for ecological balance. This is just a cover-all to compensate for the fact that the evidence of the safety of GMO crops is now unassailable. What evidence is there of ecological damage? The only argument that has any legs is the argument around reductions in crop diversity. But this was already an issue regardless of GMO. In fact, the ability to genetically modify crops to make them more viable could arguable lead to more diversity in the long term. But that whole argument is more about the broader issue of industrial farming, than GMOs in and of themselves. The other response is that seedbanks exist in many locations now in order to retain genetic diversity of crops. The simple fact is that there is no scientific basis to oppose GMOs. My broader point is that the left and right are both prone to irrational thinking, it just depends what topic you are looking at. If you want to look at an issue which involves an increase in govt action or involvement then you can guarantee the right wingers will be opposed. If it is an issue involving corporations or profit, then it will be the left who are opposed. These biases exist for everyone. The key is to be self aware so you can manage your own bias.
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BETHFC wrote:Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense.
You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Denial, denial, denial; like with global warming. Tobacco industry, oil industry, coal industry - protect at all cost. Worth trillions
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AzzaMarch wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:it is to do with the unknown long term potential for ecological balance. This is just a cover-all to compensate for the fact that the evidence of the safety of GMO crops is now unassailable. Utter garbage. It's an often stated argument, that even you have misrepresented. Feel free to educate yourself. AzzaMarch wrote:What evidence is there of ecological damage? :lol: :lol: :lol: You're (rhetorical) question proves my point. Simplistic mentality: No issue now = no issue in future... Dear, oh, dear
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense.
You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Denial, denial, denial; like with global warming. Tobacco industry, oil industry, coal industry - protect at all cost. Worth trillions You don't get away with it that easy. Stop deflecting and back yourself up. You've made a claim, support it or shut up.
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BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense.
You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Denial, denial, denial; like with global warming. Tobacco industry, oil industry, coal industry - protect at all cost. Worth trillions You don't get away with it that easy. Stop deflecting and back yourself up. You've made a claim, support it or shut up. So I have to do a brain scan on every 'environmental exploiter' to check their real motives?
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense.
You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Denial, denial, denial; like with global warming. Tobacco industry, oil industry, coal industry - protect at all cost. Worth trillions You don't get away with it that easy. Stop deflecting and back yourself up. You've made a claim, support it or shut up. So I have to do a brain scan on every 'environmental exploiter' to check their real motives? I don't know. All you've done is present speculation filled with your own bias. You've always harped on about anecdotal evidence. Maybe try to be less of a hypocrite Ricey.
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BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense.
You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Denial, denial, denial; like with global warming. Tobacco industry, oil industry, coal industry - protect at all cost. Worth trillions You don't get away with it that easy. Stop deflecting and back yourself up. You've made a claim, support it or shut up. So I have to do a brain scan on every 'environmental exploiter' to check their real motives? I don't know. All you've done is present speculation filled with your own bias. You've always harped on about anecdotal evidence. Maybe try to be less of a hypocrite Ricey. You seem to struggle with differentiating informed v uninformed opinions Garbage in, garbage out...
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense.
You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Denial, denial, denial; like with global warming. Tobacco industry, oil industry, coal industry - protect at all cost. Worth trillions You don't get away with it that easy. Stop deflecting and back yourself up. You've made a claim, support it or shut up. So I have to do a brain scan on every 'environmental exploiter' to check their real motives? I don't know. All you've done is present speculation filled with your own bias. You've always harped on about anecdotal evidence. Maybe try to be less of a hypocrite Ricey. You seem to struggle with differentiating informed v uninformed opinions Garbage in, garbage out... Your opinion is not informed. Get off your high horse. Still waiting for something substantial to back up your anecdotal evidence regarding right wingers not caring about millions dying.
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It regards to the OP I remember reading a few papers and sites that dealt with discrimination. The general consensus was that people had to compartmentalise their thoughts (as someone else suggested we can't learn everything, so what we don't know we tend to generalise).
Because humans tend to generalise their thoughts / knowledge on issues outside of their common zone (or knowledge base) they are more susceptible to believe stories that "agree" with their preconceived notions without looking into it further.
I think it was AzzaMarch who said we as individuals need to think more laterally / logically / independently. I have found with the plethora of rhetoric that gets put on social media now that more and more people are suspicious of misleading information (or at least they might have a Google / HoaxSlayer search before sharing it or using it as gospel).
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BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense.
You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Denial, denial, denial; like with global warming. Tobacco industry, oil industry, coal industry - protect at all cost. Worth trillions You don't get away with it that easy. Stop deflecting and back yourself up. You've made a claim, support it or shut up. So I have to do a brain scan on every 'environmental exploiter' to check their real motives? I don't know. All you've done is present speculation filled with your own bias. You've always harped on about anecdotal evidence. Maybe try to be less of a hypocrite Ricey. You seem to struggle with differentiating informed v uninformed opinions Garbage in, garbage out... Your opinion is not informed. Get off your high horse. Still waiting for something substantial to back up your anecdotal evidence regarding right wingers not caring about millions dying. Just a thought - do right wingers deny global warming because a more fucked up planet provides more 'fertile' ideological grounds for GMO....? Oops, now I'm giving them ideas, cause they wouldn't be that clever in the first place....:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense.
You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Denial, denial, denial; like with global warming. Tobacco industry, oil industry, coal industry - protect at all cost. Worth trillions You don't get away with it that easy. Stop deflecting and back yourself up. You've made a claim, support it or shut up. So I have to do a brain scan on every 'environmental exploiter' to check their real motives? I don't know. All you've done is present speculation filled with your own bias. You've always harped on about anecdotal evidence. Maybe try to be less of a hypocrite Ricey. You seem to struggle with differentiating informed v uninformed opinions Garbage in, garbage out... Your opinion is not informed. Get off your high horse. Still waiting for something substantial to back up your anecdotal evidence regarding right wingers not caring about millions dying. Just a thought - do right wingers deny global warming because a more fucked up planet provides more 'fertile' ideological grounds for GMO....? Oops, now I'm giving them ideas, cause they wouldn't be that clever in the first place....:lol: :lol: :lol: No changing the goal posts. Please confirm with evidence that right wingers would allow millions to die as long as money can be made. You made the claim and now you're deflecting.... again. Do you concede that your original point was an unfounded personal opinion?
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:BETHFC wrote:Again nonsense. Pure speculation. Unsubstantiated nonsense.
You have absolutely nothing to back this up. Denial, denial, denial; like with global warming. Tobacco industry, oil industry, coal industry - protect at all cost. Worth trillions You don't get away with it that easy. Stop deflecting and back yourself up. You've made a claim, support it or shut up. So I have to do a brain scan on every 'environmental exploiter' to check their real motives? I don't know. All you've done is present speculation filled with your own bias. You've always harped on about anecdotal evidence. Maybe try to be less of a hypocrite Ricey. You seem to struggle with differentiating informed v uninformed opinions Garbage in, garbage out... Your opinion is not informed. Get off your high horse. Still waiting for something substantial to back up your anecdotal evidence regarding right wingers not caring about millions dying. Just a thought - do right wingers deny global warming because a more fucked up planet provides more 'fertile' ideological grounds for GMO....? Oops, now I'm giving them ideas, cause they wouldn't be that clever in the first place....:lol: :lol: :lol: Stop deflecting and answer Beth's question.
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I agree with most of what Murdoch rags has to say but he loses me when he starts banging on about left vs right.
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