Totally agree about religion. I'd love to be able to see 50/100 years into the future and see how religion affects society in that time.

from what I recall the percentage of people who don't indentify with a religion is growing. But these people seem to be coming from Christian backgrounds while Islam seems to intensify its hold on people.

With Islam being the religion of "peace" at what point do the suicide bombings stop and Islamic countries start to get their shit together.

When we think of Islamic "trouble" it's normally just about Syria, Iraq,

but Yemen, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Nigeria, Niger, Sudan, Somalia, Central African Republic. Djibouti, Egypt, Libya, Eritrea, Tunisia, all have serious Islamic groups operating and killing people. And I'm sure I've forgotten countries.

When does it stop?

Totally agree about religion. I'd love to be able to see 50/100 years into the future and see how religion affects society in that time.

from what I recall the percentage of people who don't indentify with a religion is growing. But these people seem to be coming from Christian backgrounds while Islam seems to intensify its hold on people.

"No religion" is set to become the biggest category on the upcoming census.

Baby steps but we're getting there.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/is-australia-losing-its-religion-20150827-gj94ts.html
http://censusnoreligion.org.au/

I don't see anything offensive about what eddie and tge triple m or the 3aw guys said as offensive. Of course i know ill get the "yeah your a white male of course you don't get it". I do understand that their is tension between the triple m guys and wilson which probably contributed to her offence which i find more disconcerning as she was actually present when the 3aw guys almost said the exact same thing. HOWEVER eddies attitude afterwards was pretty pathetic.

I am just a little over all these little things being picked apart there is surely got to be a point when people are allowed to joke about things, personally in a comedic sense and knowing your audience i don't think there should ever be a line. All things permitted.

In eddies situation there may have been malice as there has been issue with wilson in the past, maybe he should hold his tongue but are we getting to the point (knowing the following situation is vastly different) where a male and a female friend cannot joke about killing, rape, holocaust, beer, sexual orientation etc without being accused of potentially carry out these things... i know my group of friends would be stuffed. (My closest friends would almost all be 25-35 year old females also)

If Eddie had said he wanted to drown James Brayshaw or any other white male, no one would have batted an eyelid.

It's been blown up because shes a woman........

If Eddie had said he wanted to drown James Brayshaw or any other white male, no one would have batted an eyelid.

It's been blown up because shes a woman........

The incident in and of itself is one thing. But you need to look at it in the broader context of Eddie's long-term history of these types of comments, and the general 'boys club' attitude that exists within elements of the AFL media.

Caroline Wilson has been targeted repeatedly, dating back to the Footy Show putting her face on a mannequin and Sam Newman beating it with a baseball bat.

Certain football media identities, Eddie chief amongst them, have a long history of this kind of bullsh#t.

If Eddie wasn't such a protected species within the media world, he would have had to resign as club president years ago.

Rather than being picked on, he has been protected for decades.

The sooner he is forced out, and the sooner I never have to see his fat potato head on TV, or hear his stupid voice on radio, the better!

Caro has in many occasion, written defamatory stories on brayshaw and eddie. There is bad blood between the three of them for a long time. Eddie being eddie shouldve known better but he kept on going and all hell breaks lose.

Caro has in many occasion, written defamatory stories on brayshaw and eddie. There is bad blood between the three of them for a long time. Eddie being eddie shouldve known better but he kept on going and all hell breaks lose.

So she writes defamatory stories and then hides behind "being a woman" when they return serve? Is this how is it? If so, what a joke.

In saying that, those three blokes should be more articulate in the way they respond, particularly given the focus on domestic violence against women and with all the political correctness Nazis out there.

Edited by bethfc: 22/6/2016 10:34:23 AM

She never 'hid' behind "being a woman" though I can see that that would fit your narrative.

The facts are they said they'd pay money to drown her. Albeit in a jokey manner.

Whether you, or others, think that is OK is up for discussion.

:roll: The sniper is back.

If Eddie said he'd pay money to drown James Brayshaw, would the reaction be the same? She's apparently 'frightened' and 'traumatized' by a few words. Give me a break. This has been blown up because she's a woman.

Get off your high horse.

Why don't you read what she has actually has to say instead of getting your information off facebook feeds.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/caroline-wilson-eddie-mcguires-ice-pool-attack-took-me-back-to-the-bad-old-days-20160620-gpn1kv.html

Exchange frightened with 'sexist' and 'laced with venom'.

Answer the question, if Eddie wanted to drown Brayshaw would the reaction have been the same?

Exchange frightened with 'sexist' and 'laced with venom'.

Answer the question, if Eddie wanted to drown Brayshaw would the reaction have been the same?

She never 'hid' behind "being a woman" though I can see that that would fit your narrative.

The facts are they said they'd pay money to drown her. Albeit in a jokey manner.

Whether you, or others, think that is OK is up for discussion.

This annoys me cause they didn't say drown... they would push her and hold her head under water. There is a difference and that drowning word in the media makes all this look worse.

Personally don't like eddie at all, don't like brayshaw... frawley is harmless but cannot stand triple m and their listeners... i used to have to listen to it in the early 2000s and they literally have not changed their tracklist.

again I'm still bemused about 3aw getting away with a very similar event.

I would also say it is fair to assume Eddie is getting more heat right now for this incident as people view it as a whole issue including the racist jokes of the last few years.

This is becoming a build up of ill conceived comments that is shaping peoples opinions on him.

If this was the first time he had 'foot in mouth' i believe it would have not even been noticed so much.

[ I however think that this has got way more coverage because of the gender of his 'victim' than it otherwise would have.

There was no mention of violence whatsoever from Eddie. The outrage is confected and reprehensible, people need to get a grip.

Eddie's direct quote was $50k for her to stay under. Not to hold her under. Stay under, of her own volition.

So that's a bad thing?

You're OK with casual 'banter' that involves violence against a woman?

Again show me an example where a male journalist has been subject to the same 'banter'.

So that's a bad thing?

You're OK with casual 'banter' that involves violence against a woman?

Again show me an example where a male journalist has been subject to the same 'banter'.

Not ONCE did BETHFC condone this in any response. But the question is valid. Even with Eddies history of fuck ups, if he had said this about say John Longmire, would it have been such an uproar or media story.

You're significantly overplaying the violent connotations, which is what the media is doing because shes female.

You won't be able to google male examples because they don't make the news.....

"No religion" is set to become the biggest category on the upcoming census.

Baby steps but we're getting there.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/is-australia-losing-its-religion-20150827-gj94ts.html
http://censusnoreligion.org.au/

I'm not overplaying anything. You should learn to read.

I objected to you saying she 'hid' behind the fact she was a women. Which she never did. That was all I I wrote.

I never said you condoned what they said.

But while we are here are you going to answer the question or not? Are you OK with casual 'banter' that involves violence against a woman?