And yes for at least 3 rounds, Hindmarsh would have been at capacity which is more than can be said of the Crowes and Power. The reason why they are starting to shift games to the AO, which I refuse to attend on principle regardless of the fact I have a season pass.

I know many hard core fans who will not watch a soccer match at AO. It's actually a bit of an insult.

You will see what I mean when the Grand Final is staged at the AO. Completely inappropriate.

Edited by Aikhme: 10/4/2016 04:10:03 PM

Edited by Aikhme: 10/4/2016 04:10:43 PM

The casuals that go watch at Adelaide Oval don't go to Hindmarsh though,

Exactly! Give them a facility and the Bandwagoners will come as well as the real fans who won't go to AO.

Not just the stadium that's the issue - if we are to renovate we need car parking ( underground Carpark) might be the way to go) and more public transport

Anyone living North/north East/west have their closest tram stop being the Entertainment Cente so that's useless, I live near Arndale shopping centre and the car is my only option...wonder how many are in the same boat!

Edited by UnitedGal: 10/4/2016 04:23:18 PM

Yea that's what I thought was the main reason why the causals don't go to Hindmarsh, harder to get to compared to the Adelaide Oval.

This is the scenario that I think occurs at Hindmarsh now... a lot of people leave it to the last minute before deciding whether to attend. But then they say "its a big game, its late, the parking will be difficult, stadium might even be a sellout... lets not go."

2 or 3k people do that and you get a 12-13k crowd at Hindmarsh. If the capacity was expanded to 20k more people will be saying "there's more room, let's go"- so you might get a crowd of 15-16k; which is an improvement. Just my theory, anyway.

No the tram is not useless. The tram is very useful.

I mean really! it's only an 800m walk. :lol:

As for carparking, the Entertainment centre could expand for another 3000 to 4000 cars.

Or people can actually use this car parking space. it only costs $4

Edited by Aikhme: 10/4/2016 04:28:57 PM

Well people tell me to catch the tram to Hindmarsh when my closest stop IS next to Hindmarsh - so he do I get there, there are no busses near where I live to there so I have to car it

So yes it is useless

Tried the bus or train to the city? Then catch the tram from King William Street?

That is an option.

You know, it starts getting ridiculous when people expect transport from door to door. Even in major cities, you sometimes need to catch other connections.

Edited by Aikhme: 10/4/2016 04:48:40 PM

People complained about Football park being hard to get to...it was 1000 times easier that Coopers

Why? How?

Its, just out of the city and less grid-lock.

Edited by Aikhme: 10/4/2016 04:49:42 PM

Yeah..where I live the City is geographically after Coopers/Entertainment Centre

You could car it and park at the Entertainment Center if that makes it easier.

Sometimes it takes a while to get out but it is an easy option for $4

Edited by Aikhme: 10/4/2016 05:00:41 PM

Difference with the stadium at west lakes ... there was multiple shuttle buses being operated for the afl games....
dont see any shuttle buses for hindmarsh ....

adelaide oval is right in the city , easy to get to , all forms of public transport lead there and its a quick walk to the ground.

hindmarsh is ok , but with traffic, its mostly car traffic and pedestrian ...

Alas, Gazza, hindmarsh would have to be bursting at the seems before an upgrade or new stadium is considered, even then the argument will be, just switch to adelaide oval... hindsight is a beautiful thing ( except in politics )

Hindmarsh needs an upgrade, but not for capacity. It needs shelter on the stands to keep the sun off and the noise in.

The club is also crying out for some corporate facilities that are basically a closed revenue stream for the club. But I don't think it can really be done because there's no room.

For now the stadium is fine because it basically is the cheapest stadium to rent in the a-league. So I wouldn't spend up big on the place if it ruins that.

How long ago did they upgrade the seats? Was that government funded, I can't remember.

yes it needs some shelter
again , they asked for the old adelaide oval eastern stand roof and refused it( which was demolished instead during the refurb)

Yeh, I don't see the Government offering free buses from the city to Hindmarsh etc.

They do for GAYFL.

No Government funding at all.

The owners (Entertainment center) paid $4 million for that upgrade. They do what they can, with no help whatsoever.

What a joke! ](*,)

Cheers, The Government down there do sure sound like pricks.

Yep! The only State that has had the same useless Government for 16 years.

We are bordering a dictatorship and might as well be a tinpot!

The government paid for the redevelopment about 20 years ago so the ground could host matches in the Olympic football tournament. Back then without a big tenant the ground was dumped on by all and sundry as a white elephant, and the government seems to like holding on to that excuse as justification not to spend further. This hasn't been a reality now for 10 years, but the government seems content to ride that excuse for eternity. Even at the cost of being shut out of big events like the Asian Cup while shitholes like Canberra reaped the benefits.

It's a testament to the ground that it has held up so well without having anything spent on it since.

This thread and unpopular thread :)

Adelaide City would have to come into the league. :)

It would be much easier to sell the idea if the stadium was used for 33 matches (given 12 teams) than the 13 or 14 now or the 16 or 17 games once the league hits 12 teams

Correct
Liberal party approved the funding for the stadium ( project was mis-managed... initially was going to be 22k capacity and costs varied significantly, 20 million to 40 million )
The white elephant terminology was created by the state ALP... ( just dont mention to them the national wine centre, that too is white elephant )

Edited by nachoman: 10/4/2016 05:28:46 PM

Edited by nachoman: 10/4/2016 05:29:00 PM

If City came in I'd like to see them upgrade their ground at Oakden. There's not much there by way of infrastructure, but they do have a decent social club which is at least one advantage to them. It'd also be far closer to their traditional catchment. I'm not sure who backs the club now that Bob has passed away, so it's probably all a pipe dream now.

I think a cleverly and strategically based second team could be viable in Adelaide. But this club would need a backer and there are none in Adelaide with deep enough pockets and wanting to throw some money around for what is essentially a bit of fun.

So probably a pipe dream at the moment.

It would be great though to have an Adelaide Derby. The City and West Adelaide glory days were something else.

Edited by Aikhme: 10/4/2016 05:34:12 PM

The entertainment centre next door was also labelled a white elephant. Adelaide loves the shit.

I think the redevelopment cost for Hindmarsh came in at 27 million eventually. It also did hit a 20k capacity with the use of temporary seats (which I think is the same seats they roll out for the grandprix/clipsal). This in itself proves there is room to fit additional capacity at the ground, but the kicker is it can only be built in specific areas which may not match the market in terms of what type of tickets are in demand.

Original plans for Hindmarsh had the Eastern Stand being built right up but following the shape of the lot. It basically made the stadium shaped like a paper aeroplane.

I grew up on those derbies as a kid. If I get lung cancer later in my days I know who to blame.

That's what I do - now that I've moved closer to home for work makes it easier to get their on time