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salmonfc wrote:scott21 wrote:This would mean you would have to play on astroturf [youtube]gvdf5n-zI14[/youtube] Perhaps it would be worth it to have it. The sale of Hindmarsh could help to pay for it. I think it would be hard to secure funding any other way.
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and $160m is being spent on the o'bahn, to continue a tunnel further into the city estimated benefit for travellers, save 3 -7 minutes
money well spent.:shock:
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Yes. Upgrade to international standard. They have a football stadium and deserve games.
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Nachoman wrote:and $160m is being spent on the o'bahn, to continue a tunnel further into the city estimated benefit for travellers, save 3 -7 minutes
money well spent.:shock:
Edited by nachoman: 11/4/2016 07:41:43 AM Just facts eh? o:) :lol:
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Was I right in the numbers ?
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salmonfc wrote:Just looked up the o-bahn as I've never heard of it until now.
What the fuck :lol: it's a train track for buses Never heard of the o-bahn and you live in Adelaide? Unbelievable...:roll: The o-bahn upgrade is a waste of money, though. A billion dollar tunnel just so the bus can get into town 3 minutes quicker?? That's a massive waste of money.
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localstar wrote:salmonfc wrote:Just looked up the o-bahn as I've never heard of it until now.
What the fuck :lol: it's a train track for buses Never heard of the o-bahn and you live in Adelaide? Unbelievable...:roll: The o-bahn upgrade is a waste of money, though. A billion dollar tunnel just so the bus can get into town 3 minutes quicker?? That's a massive waste of money. It's a billion dollars now? :shock: The time savings claimed in this thread I'm highly dubious of too, when I worked in the city the buses regularly were held up on Hackney road for 10-15 minutes in peak hour traffic. The time saving wasn't the only issue, it was also how unpredictable it all was. Anyway, I'm not sure it was the best infrastructure to invest money in right now but it's not a terrible one and I'm 99% sure it is being done now as it opens up options for other improvements on the ring road which after the north south corridor improvements, is next cab off the rank in terms of importance. Anyway, this isn't an SA politics thread, it's about upgrading Hindmarsh :lol:
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salmonfc wrote:redsfan wrote:paladisious wrote:conm wrote:UnitedGal wrote:Not just the stadium that's the issue - if we are to renovate we need car parking ( underground Carpark) might be the way to go) and more public transport
Anyone living North/north East/west have their closest tram stop being the Entertainment Cente so that's useless, I live near Arndale shopping centre and the car is my only option...wonder how many are in the same boat!
Edited by UnitedGal: 10/4/2016 04:23:18 PM Poor location not worth any further investment wait for better opportunity closer adelaide cbd surrounded with public transport I imagine all that green space around the city centre is protected as fuck by NIMBYS. Would a new stadium somewhere like here be a non starter for this reason? is it what, there was a complete meltdown a few years back when someone proposed to build a kiosk/cafe somehwere in the parklands. There currently a ton people bitching and moaning about having a few trees cutdown to create an o-bahn busway through part of it and one of the most public outspoken city councillors is a complete nimby bitch. though the state government will need to spend some development money somewhere when the hospital is finished. The easiest place to locate a new stadium would be on the police barracks/ driver training center. It's where AUFC planned to build a 40k stadium back in the Bianco days. http://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=355 Once we start filling Hindy on a regular basis and we can't demolish those two fucking useless shitty heritage buildings, we should take another look at those plans. That model looks prime, just needs a roof. Where is this police barracks? https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.9194421,138.5811992,579m/data=!3m1!1e3 The trees out the back of it are a bunch of paddocks used to keep police horses. Perfect place for a stadium, all the train converge nearbye and the tram line is next door. Bonython park can be used for car parking as well.
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salmonfc wrote:Just looked up the o-bahn as I've never heard of it until now.
What the fuck :lol: it's a train track for buses You do yourself no favours, kid. salmonfc wrote: Even if we don't use the extra space to upgrade the stadium, I fully support destroying them just as a fuck you to the nimby cunts who want every fucking building older than 40 to be heritage listed.
Please just shut up. Please. Edited by davide82: 11/4/2016 12:10:55 PM
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Davide82 wrote:salmonfc wrote:Just looked up the o-bahn as I've never heard of it until now.
What the fuck :lol: it's a train track for buses You do yourself no favours, kid. salmonfc wrote: Even if we don't use the extra space to upgrade the stadium, I fully support destroying them just as a fuck you to the nimby cunts who want every fucking building older than 40 to be heritage listed.
Please just shut up. Please. Edited by davide82: 11/4/2016 12:10:55 PM What's the point in keeping them? How are they historically important/relevant?
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salmonfc wrote:Davide82 wrote:salmonfc wrote:Just looked up the o-bahn as I've never heard of it until now.
What the fuck :lol: it's a train track for buses You do yourself no favours, kid. salmonfc wrote: Even if we don't use the extra space to upgrade the stadium, I fully support destroying them just as a fuck you to the nimby cunts who want every fucking building older than 40 to be heritage listed.
Please just shut up. Please. Edited by davide82: 11/4/2016 12:10:55 PM What's the point in keeping them? How are they historically important/relevant? Just shutup.
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Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
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salmonfc wrote:Davide82 wrote:salmonfc wrote:Just looked up the o-bahn as I've never heard of it until now.
What the fuck :lol: it's a train track for buses You do yourself no favours, kid. salmonfc wrote: Even if we don't use the extra space to upgrade the stadium, I fully support destroying them just as a fuck you to the nimby cunts who want every fucking building older than 40 to be heritage listed.
Please just shut up. Please. Edited by davide82: 11/4/2016 12:10:55 PM What's the point in keeping them? How are they historically important/relevant? I don't particularly care about any one building but your questions is just ridiculous on it's premise. I want to answer you, I really do. I just don't even know where to start. For a 16 year old to blurt out such set in stone 100% confident in your baseless assertion nonsense like you do without even thinking first like a miserable old myopic caller to talk back radio is just bizarre You are anti things you don't even know exist for Christ's sake!!!!! :lol:
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newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
I guess we could add an extra tier maybe - I'm not sure about the logistics to be honest Can I be really unpopular in suggesting turning AAMI stadium into a Football Stadum?
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salmonfc wrote:Davide82 wrote:salmonfc wrote:Just looked up the o-bahn as I've never heard of it until now.
What the fuck :lol: it's a train track for buses You do yourself no favours, kid. salmonfc wrote: Even if we don't use the extra space to upgrade the stadium, I fully support destroying them just as a fuck you to the nimby cunts who want every fucking building older than 40 to be heritage listed.
Please just shut up. Please. Edited by davide82: 11/4/2016 12:10:55 PM What's the point in keeping them? How are they historically important/relevant? IMO it is a beautiful old building in one of the oldest areas of the city. http://community.history.sa.gov.au/hindmarsh-fire-and-folk-museumhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/communityhistorysa/sets/72157646030382452/Edited by redsfan: 11/4/2016 03:15:59 PM
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redsfan wrote:salmonfc wrote:Davide82 wrote:salmonfc wrote:Just looked up the o-bahn as I've never heard of it until now.
What the fuck :lol: it's a train track for buses You do yourself no favours, kid. salmonfc wrote: Even if we don't use the extra space to upgrade the stadium, I fully support destroying them just as a fuck you to the nimby cunts who want every fucking building older than 40 to be heritage listed.
Please just shut up. Please. Edited by davide82: 11/4/2016 12:10:55 PM What's the point in keeping them? How are they historically important/relevant? IMO it is a beautiful old building in one of the oldest areas of the city. http://community.history.sa.gov.au/hindmarsh-fire-and-folk-museumhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/communityhistorysa/sets/72157646030382452/Edited by redsfan: 11/4/2016 03:15:59 PM Fair enough, I suppose. Our only hope for a larger stadium is a development at the site of Santos Stadium.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:salmonfc wrote: Our only hope for a larger stadium is a development at the site of Santos Stadium.
Closer to the CBD and Ying Chow than Hindy, win win in my books. Edited by 11.mvfc.11: 11/4/2016 03:19:11 PM Should be more accessible via public transport (and if we have car parking nearby, all the better) Not to mention closer to my house \:d/
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UnitedGal wrote:newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
I guess we could add an extra tier maybe - I'm not sure about the logistics to be honest Can I be really unpopular in suggesting turning AAMI stadium into a Football Stadum? Apparently the Crows have a lease until 2048 as their training and admin base. Don't know why they need 50k seats around them for training sessions though. Maybe a swap could be considered? If you dug the oval down into a rectangle the capacity would be massive, 70k at least, could be an option for a World Cup?
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newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
During the Sydney 2000 football tournament, they had temporary seating put in, filling up the corners as you suggest. It actually pushed the capacity to 20k. I tend to agree that this talk of significant expansion is not really viable. AU would need to average 13-14k and have regular sell outs before you could really justify significant expansion or a new stadium. As much as I would love a 30k capacity stadium in the middle of the city, it just ain't gonna happen. Even aussie rules only had the clout to generate a redevelopment at Adelaide Oval, rather than a new stadium. We don't have the economic clout to justify it.
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paladisious wrote:UnitedGal wrote:newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
I guess we could add an extra tier maybe - I'm not sure about the logistics to be honest Can I be really unpopular in suggesting turning AAMI stadium into a Football Stadum? Apparently the Crows have a lease until 2048 as their training and admin base. Don't know why they need 50k seats around them for training sessions though. Maybe a swap could be considered? If you dug the oval down into a rectangle the capacity would be massive, 70k at least, could be an option for a World Cup? This is a terrible idea. If football park was not viable for two AFL clubs, how would it be viable for football? How is this any better than playing our big games at Adelaide Oval? For non-South Aussies (particularly VICs) Football Park is the SA equivalent to Waverley. In a population zone, but nowhere near the centre of the city, with poor transport links.
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paladisious wrote:UnitedGal wrote:newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
I guess we could add an extra tier maybe - I'm not sure about the logistics to be honest Can I be really unpopular in suggesting turning AAMI stadium into a Football Stadum? Apparently the Crows have a lease until 2048 as their training and admin base. Don't know why they need 50k seats around them for training sessions though. Maybe a swap could be considered? If you dug the oval down into a rectangle the capacity would be massive, 70k at least, could be an option for a World Cup? Picture how Waverley Park is now and that's what's going to happen at West Lakes. It's a terrible idea anyway, for the same reason why you wouldn't build a rectangular stadium for Victory at Waverley. It's way over on one side of town and not easy to get to for a decent proportion of the population.
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AzzaMarch wrote:paladisious wrote:UnitedGal wrote:newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
I guess we could add an extra tier maybe - I'm not sure about the logistics to be honest Can I be really unpopular in suggesting turning AAMI stadium into a Football Stadum? Apparently the Crows have a lease until 2048 as their training and admin base. Don't know why they need 50k seats around them for training sessions though. Maybe a swap could be considered? If you dug the oval down into a rectangle the capacity would be massive, 70k at least, could be an option for a World Cup? This is a terrible idea. If football park was not viable for two AFL clubs, how would it be viable for football? How is this any better than playing our big games at Adelaide Oval? For non-South Aussies (particularly VICs) Football Park is the SA equivalent to Waverley. In a population zone, but nowhere near the centre of the city, with poor transport links. Stupid work email, you beat me to it :lol:
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AzzaMarch wrote:newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
During the Sydney 2000 football tournament, they had temporary seating put in, filling up the corners as you suggest. It actually pushed the capacity to 20k. I tend to agree that this talk of significant expansion is not really viable. AU would need to average 13-14k and have regular sell outs before you could really justify significant expansion or a new stadium. As much as I would love a 30k capacity stadium in the middle of the city, it just ain't gonna happen. Even aussie rules only had the clout to generate a redevelopment at Adelaide Oval, rather than a new stadium. We don't have the economic clout to justify it. As I said before, averaging 13-14k isn't viable but we could sell out a few more games. That would put some pressure on.
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Fair play re Football Park.
I just want to see a Socceroos/potential World Cup group stage venue in Adelaide that isn't Adelaide Oval.
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mcjules wrote:localstar wrote:salmonfc wrote:Just looked up the o-bahn as I've never heard of it until now.
What the fuck :lol: it's a train track for buses Never heard of the o-bahn and you live in Adelaide? Unbelievable...:roll: The o-bahn upgrade is a waste of money, though. A billion dollar tunnel just so the bus can get into town 3 minutes quicker?? That's a massive waste of money. It's a billion dollars now? :shock: The time savings claimed in this thread I'm highly dubious of too, when I worked in the city the buses regularly were held up on Hackney road for 10-15 minutes in peak hour traffic. The time saving wasn't the only issue, it was also how unpredictable it all was. Anyway, I'm not sure it was the best infrastructure to invest money in right now but it's not a terrible one and I'm 99% sure it is being done now as it opens up options for other improvements on the ring road which after the north south corridor improvements, is next cab off the rank in terms of importance. Anyway, this isn't an SA politics thread, it's about upgrading Hindmarsh :lol: I had a gig driving the buses in Adelaide when I was younger. Sometimes I got held up 45 minutes on Hackney Rd. The Obahn extension is very important and money well spent. You have to think of it as how much money you're wasting NOT building it. It's ridiculous that you can travel for 10 km in 10 minutes then the last km takes half an hour. It renders the whole line useless when all the cars you overtook on the Obahn while they plodded on NE Road all catch up to you at the end. And remember also that all the fuel you spend sitting at the end has to be paid for, the driver is still being paid to sit in traffic, and the bus that could be doing another run (and earning revenue) is not moving. Then multiply that by a thousand buses every day, 365 days a year. The extension pays for itself. Edited by bohemia: 11/4/2016 03:54:20 PM
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paladisious wrote:Fair play re Football Park.
I just want to see a Socceroos/potential World Cup group stage venue in Adelaide that isn't Adelaide Oval. Shit out of luck, I'm afraid.
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paladisious wrote:UnitedGal wrote:newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
I guess we could add an extra tier maybe - I'm not sure about the logistics to be honest Can I be really unpopular in suggesting turning AAMI stadium into a Football Stadum? Apparently the Crows have a lease until 2048 as their training and admin base. Don't know why they need 50k seats around them for training sessions though. Maybe a swap could be considered? If you dug the oval down into a rectangle the capacity would be massive, 70k at least, could be an option for a World Cup? They won't have 50k seats, it's been bought by a developer and is going to be turned into something similar to what happened at hawthorns training ground.
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paladisious wrote:UnitedGal wrote:newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
I guess we could add an extra tier maybe - I'm not sure about the logistics to be honest Can I be really unpopular in suggesting turning AAMI stadium into a Football Stadum? Apparently the Crows have a lease until 2048 as their training and admin base. Don't know why they need 50k seats around them for training sessions though. Maybe a swap could be considered? If you dug the oval down into a rectangle the capacity would be massive, 70k at least, could be an option for a World Cup? The SANFL owned the stadium/land outright. They bought the paddock with a private bank loan in the 70s when West Lakes was still a swamp/estuary. The government didn't pay a cent. It was pretty similar to how the VFL broke away from the MCC to build Waverley. They sold it to developers to fund their contribution to the Adelaide Oval, and in return they were granted their share in the new Stadium Management Authority. Football Park isn't on the table, it's sold and being redeveloped in to housing. And the government can't gift to someone else the stadium they do not and never owned. Edited by bohemia: 11/4/2016 04:01:45 PM
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redsfan wrote:paladisious wrote:UnitedGal wrote:newton_circus wrote:Hindmarsh already looks beautiful. If you could box it up (there is currently a gap in seating at each corner flag), that would add another 1000 or 2000 seats, which would be a perfect size stadium for Adelaide United.
I guess we could add an extra tier maybe - I'm not sure about the logistics to be honest Can I be really unpopular in suggesting turning AAMI stadium into a Football Stadum? Apparently the Crows have a lease until 2048 as their training and admin base. Don't know why they need 50k seats around them for training sessions though. Maybe a swap could be considered? If you dug the oval down into a rectangle the capacity would be massive, 70k at least, could be an option for a World Cup? They won't have 50k seats, it's been bought by a developer and is going to be turned into something similar to what happened at hawthorns training ground. Yeah I see, I didn't find anything solid about the grandstands in my quick google.
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