Rio 2016 Olympic Games Thread


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the international experts thought Australia would do better than they have done. Gracenote, which tends to be the best at predicting Olympic results, had Australia winning more gold medals.
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I just looked at Gracenotes predictions. It had Larkin down for 2 gold medals, even though his and Murphy's best times this year were near identical going in. I'll admit Campbell was expected to win the 100, but that was just a freak error on the day. She was a chance in the 50 as well but that event requires luck. Seebohm would've expected a gold and so would McEvoy but we won that anyway. It's a sport I follow closely and this was far from our greatest team we've sent to an Olympics. The simple reality is we're not good enough.

I do the same with sports I don't follow regularly at Olympic time as plenty have done with the swim team. I look at our rowing results and think we must've underperformed (apparently we haven't and we're just shit at rowing but I have no idea)
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our hockey teams underperforming
no problems with mental strength? Ok
still time to turn it around
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TBH I can be content with this medal tally for the end of the games

its more than powerhouse nations spain, portugal, mexico, argentina and brazil combined



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Turning out to be a disaster games for Australia.

We need an inquiry into this! 
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Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 8:44 AM
Turning out to be a disaster games for Australia.

We need an inquiry into this! 

Disaster? What about those powerhouse countries listed? 
What about fiji or puerto rico? 1 medal and theyre over the moon
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We have definitely gone backwards in sport over the last decade
its not just the game but all round with football the only place I've seen (slow) improvement albeit after dropping from the heights of the golden gen

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400m semi 1.5 seconds below pb

very unlikely to get a medal but gee

one possibility is our coaches prepared for jetlag poorly compared to other nations

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Condemned666 - 15 Aug 2016 9:25 AM
Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 8:44 AM

Disaster? What about those powerhouse countries listed? 
What about fiji or puerto rico? 1 medal and theyre over the moon

Australia is not Fiji or Puerto Rico. 

Clearly, more was expected of Australia. Therefore, we need an inquiry or Royal Commission into Sport! lol
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grazorblade - 15 Aug 2016 9:43 AM
We have definitely gone backwards in sport over the last decade
its not just the game but all round with football the only place I've seen (slow) improvement albeit after dropping from the heights of the golden gen

I agree! there has been a steady decline since 2004. 

It's a real shame because the people need sport success so much. What else do they have if this is taken from them? 
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paladisious - 14 Aug 2016 9:23 PM
Daria Klishina, the only Russian Track & Field athlete not banned because she was based in the US and was regularly tested while training and competeing there with no problems (although was forced to compete under the Olympic flag and not wear her country's colours) has been banned at the last minute, just because she also tested with the Russian system sometimes.

Say what you want about the rest of the Russian team, but this is fucked.

Somewhat relevantly, here's what she looks like:



I'll award her a Gold Medal! 
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Wayne van Niekirk. Mother of God.  Fucking incredible 
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Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 10:12 AM
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I'll award her a Gold Medal! 

You mean youre not getting those emails from "the Russian bride wanting to meet and marry you"?
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Condemned666 - 15 Aug 2016 11:23 AM
Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 10:12 AM

You mean youre not getting those emails from "the Russian bride wanting to meet and marry you"?

If they look like her, I would be in if I wasn't married! lol

She would be Orthodox too which means she's practically Greek! Good genes! lol
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Meanwhile Bolt's taken out the 100 again
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Iridium1010 - 15 Aug 2016 12:49 AM
Watching kenya vs ethiopia in the long distance is great

Except they're all juiced up to the max.  Have been reading about Ethiopia, Kenya and other African countries and their non-existent drug testing regimes since that girl smashed the WR.

Friggin Kenya coach was sent home for trying to piss in a bottle for one of his athletes.

Ethiopian girl broke the world record that stood, by a drug cheat, for 22 years by 14 seconds and didn't even look puffed doing it.

As HG and Roy would say it's a 'joke and a farce'.

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Ryan Lochte the American Gold Medallist got robbed at gunpoint in Rio
Story

Apparently the criminals in South America are nice and friendly, ie they'll have a friendly conversation talk about the soccer, talk about how wonderful your country is and they wish to go to your country if they could

And then they stick up their guns and or knife to rob you

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Toughlove - 15 Aug 2016 11:44 AM
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Except they're all juiced up to the max.  Have been reading about Ethiopia, Kenya and other African countries and their non-existent drug testing regimes since that girl smashed the WR.

Friggin Kenya coach was sent home for trying to piss in a bottle for one of his athletes.

Ethiopian girl broke the world record that stood, by a drug cheat, for 22 years by 14 seconds and didn't even look puffed doing it.

As HG and Roy would say it's a 'joke and a farce'.

Don't they test these athletes?

Man if they got Bolt as a drug cheat, that would be quite the scandal! 
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Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 11:49 AM
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Don't they test these athletes?

Man if they got Bolt as a drug cheat, that would be quite the scandal! 


They're not stupid enough, well some are, to get caught during the games. Out of competition testing is where it's at.

http://afkinsider.com/123141/ethiopia-risks-iaaf-ban-over-doping-tests/
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3528230/Ethiopia-told-carry-extensive-doping-tests-athletes-face-ban-IAAF.html

http://ecadforum.com/2016/06/20/ethiopia-olympic-hopeful-genzebe-dibabas-coach-arrested-in-doping-raid/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/23/kenya-passes-new-anti-doping-law-to-avoid-olympic-ban

https://tuko.co.ke/97069-kenya-verge-banned-world-participation.html

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/36275649

http://www.foxsports.com.au/olympics/kenya-threatened-with-olympics-ban-by-iaaf-head-lord-sebastian-coe/news-story/98b050fcdc8f343062d02d881293cace?nk=8f0ecbf588162bb6661f18fd0e433661-1471226438






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grazorblade - 15 Aug 2016 9:48 AM
400m semi 1.5 seconds below pb

very unlikely to get a medal but gee

one possibility is our coaches prepared for jetlag poorly compared to other nations

I don't think it is jetlag but poor time related planing. Our athletes don't seem to be coping with racing at times around midnight as well as other nations. 

I don't like the need to hold the events at times for the convenience of the US viewing audiences. May as well just hold the every Olympics in USA if events are timed for their convenience rather than the athletes.
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chillbilly - 15 Aug 2016 12:02 PM
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I don't think it is jetlag but poor time related planing. Our athletes don't seem to be coping with racing at times around midnight as well as other nations. 

I don't like the need to hold the events at times for the convenience of the US viewing audiences. May as well just hold the every Olympics in USA if events are timed for their convenience rather than the athletes.

Or, given the schedules are announced months in advance, train for late night racing.
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Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 10:09 AM
grazorblade - 15 Aug 2016 9:43 AM

I agree! there has been a steady decline since 2004. 

It's a real shame because the people need sport success so much. What else do they have if this is taken from them? 

However our government spending on elite sport to prepare these athletes for the games is certainly NOT in decline. 

In fact the expenditure from London to Rio was up 12%.
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Toughlove - 15 Aug 2016 12:01 PM
Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 11:49 AM


They're not stupid enough, well some are, to get caught during the games. Out of competition testing is where it's at.

http://afkinsider.com/123141/ethiopia-risks-iaaf-ban-over-doping-tests/
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3528230/Ethiopia-told-carry-extensive-doping-tests-athletes-face-ban-IAAF.html

http://ecadforum.com/2016/06/20/ethiopia-olympic-hopeful-genzebe-dibabas-coach-arrested-in-doping-raid/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/23/kenya-passes-new-anti-doping-law-to-avoid-olympic-ban

https://tuko.co.ke/97069-kenya-verge-banned-world-participation.html

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/36275649

http://www.foxsports.com.au/olympics/kenya-threatened-with-olympics-ban-by-iaaf-head-lord-sebastian-coe/news-story/98b050fcdc8f343062d02d881293cace?nk=8f0ecbf588162bb6661f18fd0e433661-1471226438






Somehow, I have no doubt that all this could be true. Which is absolutely deplorable.

The authorities should apply blanket out of competition random testing. 
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Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 10:09 AM

However our government spending on elite sport to prepare these athletes for the games is certainly NOT in decline. 

In fact the expenditure from London to Rio was up 12%.

Got to take into consideration inflation over the last 4 years. 
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Toughlove - 15 Aug 2016 12:06 PM
chillbilly - 15 Aug 2016 12:02 PM

Or, given the schedules are announced months in advance, train for late night racing.

I don't disagree but I think they should do much better with the scheduling and it affecting performances. Bolt just said that he couldn't do the time he wanted in the final because of the way the 100m was scheduled.
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grazorblade - 14 Aug 2016 6:46 PM
All I'm saying is make some enquiries about atheletes mental preparation and how the coaches walked through it with them and compare it to more succesful atheletes to hopefully prevent the atheletes at the next olympics having to feel like this again

Royal Commission is clearly called for! 

Where's Shorten when you need him? 
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Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 12:12 PM
socceroo_06 - 15 Aug 2016 12:10 PM

Got to take into consideration inflation over the last 4 years. 

What? 1-3.5% over 5 years? Hardly a factor. 



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socceroo_06 - 15 Aug 2016 12:18 PM
Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 12:12 PM

What? 1-3.5% over 5 years? Hardly a factor. 



What were the realistic expectations in the medal count anyway? More gold than the Uk? Live up to our fiercely competitive reputation as a sporting nation? Ie afl, cricket we're number 1 at that



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Aikhme - 15 Aug 2016 12:11 PM
Toughlove - 15 Aug 2016 12:01 PM

Somehow, I have no doubt that all this could be true. Which is absolutely deplorable.

The authorities should apply blanket out of competition random testing. 

Well that's what the kerfuffle is all about.  They're supposed too.
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In reality Russia shouldn't be at the games, Ethipoia, Kenya, probably China and a host of other countries where WADA, the IAAF & FINA have been stymied consistently (and are weak as water) but the Olympics is a huge cash juggernaut that puts athletics and swimming in the spotlight only once every 4 years so they're loathe to do anything concrete.

Add almost all of the cycling, most of the wresting and particularly the weightlifting as drugged up roid freaks and it really is a joke.

Still the events are good to watch just asterix's everywhere you care to look.
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