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+x+xHow do we get out of this sporting rut? Its an important part of Australian life its a real problem What rut? In terms medals we're about at our level really. If your happy with recent australia cricket, olympics and rugby I won't trod on your happiness but our mental strength hasn't been strong lately
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sydneycroatia58
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+x+x+xHow do we get out of this sporting rut? Its an important part of Australian life its a real problem What rut? In terms medals we're about at our level really. If your happy with recent australia cricket, olympics and rugby I won't trod on your happiness but our mental strength hasn't been strong lately Tbf I was talking about the Olympics specifically. Cricket and Rugby are obviously a whole different story lol
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+xAbsolute garbage. No idea how they could drop so.much in performance. Most don't seem interested. It's an off night shit happens. And I mean it's not like Serbia haven't been great
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+x+xAbsolute garbage. No idea how they could drop so.much in performance. Most don't seem interested. It's an off night shit happens. And I mean it's not like Serbia haven't been great Need to give ourselves every chance at bronze. It'll be tough but not out of reach.
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+x+x+x+xHow do we get out of this sporting rut? Its an important part of Australian life its a real problem What rut? In terms medals we're about at our level really. you know that how? you know what Australia true chance was across all sports? Because apart from Sydney 2000 and the boost in the two Olympics proceeding it this is about the level we have always been at. We shouldn't be expecting to finish top 5 in medals like the AOC predicted. Should always be aiming for a solid top 10 finish and somewhere between at least 8-10 gold medals but that doesn't tell you how many medal Australia should win....that just your opinion on what you think should happen
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+x+x+xAbsolute garbage. No idea how they could drop so.much in performance. Most don't seem interested. It's an off night shit happens. And I mean it's not like Serbia haven't been great Need to give ourselves every chance at bronze. It'll be tough but not out of reach. Australia shoot 13% from 3pts, they could come out and shoot 57% vs Spain...........it's basketball
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Another not gold. Whats the point of going? No one gives a shit about you unless you're going to win.
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+xAnother not gold. Whats the point of going? No one gives a shit about you unless you're going to win. are you talking from life experience?
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+xAbsolute garbage. No idea how they could drop so.much in performance. Most don't seem interested. Rugby and cricket don't belong in the same sentence as the Olympics
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I agree with decreasing sports funding. We rely too much on funding to win medals and pissing it away on worthless sports psycholigists, obsolete coaches, charter flights and royal treatment for our failed swimmers, etc.
Most of our golds have come from no names, that chick in the pentathlon, the chick in the shooting, rugby 7s, sailing, all sports which receive very little taxpayer or corporate support. All the well funded sports like swimming, cycling, rowing etc we massively flopped in.
By all means if theres a potential champion in the mix make sure they are well supported but for fucks sake if they want gold they can earn it themselves. We cant afford to buy our way into the top 5 anyway, might as well pay our bills instead.
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grazorblade
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+xI agree with decreasing sports funding. We rely too much on funding to win medals and pissing it away on worthless sports psycholigists, obsolete coaches, charter flights and royal treatment for our failed swimmers, etc.Most of our golds have come from no names, that chick in the pentathlon, the chick in the shooting, rugby 7s, sailing, all sports which receive very little taxpayer or corporate support. All the well funded sports like swimming, cycling, rowing etc we massively flopped in.By all means if theres a potential champion in the mix make sure they are well supported but for fucks sake if they want gold they can earn it themselves. We cant afford to buy our way into the top 5 anyway, might as well pay our bills instead. agree with who? Haven't heard anyone else on the forum say to decrease funding how big is the funding by the way?
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Condemned666
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+x+xI agree with decreasing sports funding. We rely too much on funding to win medals and pissing it away on worthless sports psycholigists, obsolete coaches, charter flights and royal treatment for our failed swimmers, etc.Most of our golds have come from no names, that chick in the pentathlon, the chick in the shooting, rugby 7s, sailing, all sports which receive very little taxpayer or corporate support. All the well funded sports like swimming, cycling, rowing etc we massively flopped in.By all means if theres a potential champion in the mix make sure they are well supported but for fucks sake if they want gold they can earn it themselves. We cant afford to buy our way into the top 5 anyway, might as well pay our bills instead. agree with who? Haven't heard anyone else on the forum say to decrease funding how big is the funding by the way? you can pour all the money in the world, but the likes of michael phelps or usain bolt will find a way to get on top
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So is Bolt or Phelps the greater Olympic athlete?
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+xSo is Bolt or Phelps the greater Olympic athlete? Can't be called, imo. Michael Phelps has won more gold medals. His versatility is phenomenal. But Usain Bolt's success is, proportionately, as great. And he competes in the most basic of human sports... sprinting. The purest of all forms of sport. To win the triple gold in three consecutive Olympic Games for that defies belief.
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Condemned666
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+x+xI agree with decreasing sports funding. We rely too much on funding to win medals and pissing it away on worthless sports psycholigists, obsolete coaches, charter flights and royal treatment for our failed swimmers, etc.Most of our golds have come from no names, that chick in the pentathlon, the chick in the shooting, rugby 7s, sailing, all sports which receive very little taxpayer or corporate support. All the well funded sports like swimming, cycling, rowing etc we massively flopped in.By all means if theres a potential champion in the mix make sure they are well supported but for fucks sake if they want gold they can earn it themselves. We cant afford to buy our way into the top 5 anyway, might as well pay our bills instead. agree with who? Haven't heard anyone else on the forum say to decrease funding how big is the funding by the way? Another thing I expected 5-6 gold (all up) medals this meet, but who am i counting? Team mcdonalds (ie the usa) has got the most medals, and i couldnt care less Anyway im expecting the same thing for the next olympics, what difference does it make? Anyway i have an argentine friend whos not a sports fan and shes salivating every single medal they pick up (3 golds and a silver). The argument would be "imagine 10 times that" but any medal at all is good enough
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+x+x+xI agree with decreasing sports funding. We rely too much on funding to win medals and pissing it away on worthless sports psycholigists, obsolete coaches, charter flights and royal treatment for our failed swimmers, etc.Most of our golds have come from no names, that chick in the pentathlon, the chick in the shooting, rugby 7s, sailing, all sports which receive very little taxpayer or corporate support. All the well funded sports like swimming, cycling, rowing etc we massively flopped in.By all means if theres a potential champion in the mix make sure they are well supported but for fucks sake if they want gold they can earn it themselves. We cant afford to buy our way into the top 5 anyway, might as well pay our bills instead. agree with who? Haven't heard anyone else on the forum say to decrease funding how big is the funding by the way? Another thing I expected 5-6 gold (all up) medals this meet, but who am i counting? Team mcdonalds (ie the usa) has got the most medals, and i couldnt care less Anyway im expecting the same thing for the next olympics, what difference does it make? Anyway i have an argentine friend whos not a sports fan and shes salivating every single medal they pick up (3 golds and a silver). The argument would be "imagine 10 times that" but any medal at all is good enough It's not just about the number of medals. The reason the number of medals matter, for a lot of Australians, is that a lot the Olympics is the pinnacle for a lot of sports where Australia has a lot of pedigree/people play such sports. Lots of Aussies have grown up competing in swimming, rowing, hockey, etc. Cycling too (although I can only think of one person I know who did that a particularly high level). But for a lot of those sports, we grow up playing them. And we used to do well in the Olympics for those sports. So to watch us suddenly doing shit at it at the highest level is depressing. It's not just a matter of we want this many medals. We, like every country, want to do well in the sports we take seriously. The thing is that a number of the sports we take seriously are Olympic sports.
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Apparently, the AOC has spent $377 million AUD on funding elite sport programmes since London. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rio-olympics/rio-olympics-aoc-has-spent-377m-on-elite-sport-programs-since-london/news-story/5e569a6072c368a5828b88a32db0a51dThat's sounds like a lot of money. But, in the scheme of things, it's really not.
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To put it into perspective, Australia puts substantially less into elite sport than the UK does.
From what I'm told, if you work it out, it would seem that the average Briton contributes £2 per year for elite sport. Hardly a lot?
And, from what I'm told, it's not even that much. Basically, most of Britain's sport funding comes from the revenue of the National Lottery (which is privately run but owned by the British Government).
So basically, it all comes from the profits of gambling.
My line of argument is that we must not decrease funding of elite or grassroots sport. In fact, we should look to increase such funding if possible. If we decrease it, then we're going to become truly shithouse at the sports we take seriously and that lots of Australians have grown up competing in (swimming, hockey, rowing, triathlon, aths and cycling). If we're shithouse at sports we take seriously, that makes us a laughingstock.
But we should be looking to find a more equitable way to fund it (so it's not taking too much money from the public purse). I like the idea of the National Lottery. I think Kevin Rudd, some time ago, looked at this is a feasible option. The only problem is that Australians might not be as keen on the lottery as the Brits are and that it might not be possible to create a rival lottery because of those Tattersalls morons.
But the lesson here is that we should still look to the Brits in profiting from gambling. Aussies tend to gamble on things like sports betting and the pokies. They ruin lives. As far as I'm concerned, it does no harm to society whatsoever if those things are taxed more heavily. I'm no economist but I suspect that if they're so lucrative, they'll cop the tax. If not, they'll try to push the burden of tax onto the consumer, which means less gambling.
Either way, Australia should look to alternate funding models (especially gambling).
But we must not decrease funding for elite or grassroots sport.
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+x+x+x+xI agree with decreasing sports funding. We rely too much on funding to win medals and pissing it away on worthless sports psycholigists, obsolete coaches, charter flights and royal treatment for our failed swimmers, etc.Most of our golds have come from no names, that chick in the pentathlon, the chick in the shooting, rugby 7s, sailing, all sports which receive very little taxpayer or corporate support. All the well funded sports like swimming, cycling, rowing etc we massively flopped in.By all means if theres a potential champion in the mix make sure they are well supported but for fucks sake if they want gold they can earn it themselves. We cant afford to buy our way into the top 5 anyway, might as well pay our bills instead. agree with who? Haven't heard anyone else on the forum say to decrease funding how big is the funding by the way? Another thing I expected 5-6 gold (all up) medals this meet, but who am i counting? Team mcdonalds (ie the usa) has got the most medals, and i couldnt care less Anyway im expecting the same thing for the next olympics, what difference does it make? Anyway i have an argentine friend whos not a sports fan and shes salivating every single medal they pick up (3 golds and a silver). The argument would be "imagine 10 times that" but any medal at all is good enough It's not just about the number of medals. The reason the number of medals matter, for a lot of Australians, is that a lot the Olympics is the pinnacle for a lot of sports where Australia has a lot of pedigree/people play such sports. Lots of Aussies have grown up competing in swimming, rowing, hockey, etc. Cycling too (although I can only think of one person I know who did that a particularly high level). But for a lot of those sports, we grow up playing them. And we used to do well in the Olympics for those sports. So to watch us suddenly doing shit at it at the highest level is depressing. It's not just a matter of we want this many medals. We, like every country, want to do well in the sports we take seriously. The thing is that a number of the sports we take seriously are Olympic sports. things ebb and flow If you think about it, Australia's population was smaller when they had more 'bang for their buck' in terms of being a country with a small population which got medals. Although one can argue that the population has grown through immigration, so its a perfunctory point One can argue, Australia's sports population/ base has not grown as its the same amount of people that swim, cycle or row To put it into perspective, Australia puts substantially less into elite sport than the UK does. From what I'm told, if you work it out, it would seem that the average Briton contributes £2 per year for elite sport. Hardly a lot? And, from what I'm told, it's not even that much. Basically, most of Britain's sport funding comes from the revenue of the National Lottery (which is privately run but owned by the British Government). So basically, it all comes from the profits of gambling. My line of argument is that we must not decrease funding of elite or grassroots sport. In fact, we should look to increase such funding if possible. If we decrease it, then we're going to become truly shithouse at the sports we take seriously and that lots of Australians have grown up competing in (swimming, hockey, rowing, triathlon, aths and cycling). If we're shithouse at sports we take seriously, that makes us a laughingstock. But we should be looking to find a more equitable way to fund it (so it's not taking too much money from the public purse). I like the idea of the National Lottery. I think Kevin Rudd, some time ago, looked at this is a feasible option. The only problem is that Australians might not be as keen on the lottery as the Brits are and that it might not be possible to create a rival lottery because of those Tattersalls morons. But the lesson here is that we should still look to the Brits in profiting from gambling. Aussies tend to gamble on things like sports betting and the pokies. They ruin lives. As far as I'm concerned, it does no harm to society whatsoever if those things are taxed more heavily. I'm no economist but I suspect that if they're so lucrative, they'll cop the tax. If not, they'll try to push the burden of tax onto the consumer, which means less gambling. Either way, Australia should look to alternate funding models (especially gambling). But we must not decrease funding for elite or grassroots sport. What are you? Robert Malthus? Charles Benedict Davenport? Joseph Goebbels? Steven Dank*? money doesnt generate and create winners. Its the luck of the draw, theres a chance that Jamaica might go without a medal in foreseeable olympics because Bolt was a once-off freakish talent. Im not sure what Jamaica's setup or sports science scheme? (People who could have played cricket?) The Americans have the numbers and their own sports leagues (we do too) and we're a mini-america in terms of being tenacious and able to get more medals than countries with populations bigger than us?
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+x+xSo is Bolt or Phelps the greater Olympic athlete? Can't be called, imo. Michael Phelps has won more gold medals. His versatility is phenomenal. But Usain Bolt's success is, proportionately, as great. And he competes in the most basic of human sports... sprinting. The purest of all forms of sport. To win the triple gold in three consecutive Olympic Games for that defies belief. Yea, hard one to pick but if I had to pick my favourite it would be Usain Bolt.
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+xTo put it into perspective, Australia puts substantially less into elite sport than the UK does. From what I'm told, if you work it out, it would seem that the average Briton contributes £2 per year for elite sport. Hardly a lot? And, from what I'm told, it's not even that much. Basically, most of Britain's sport funding comes from the revenue of the National Lottery (which is privately run but owned by the British Government). So basically, it all comes from the profits of gambling. My line of argument is that we must not decrease funding of elite or grassroots sport. In fact, we should look to increase such funding if possible. If we decrease it, then we're going to become truly shithouse at the sports we take seriously and that lots of Australians have grown up competing in (swimming, hockey, rowing, triathlon, aths and cycling). If we're shithouse at sports we take seriously, that makes us a laughingstock. But we should be looking to find a more equitable way to fund it (so it's not taking too much money from the public purse). I like the idea of the National Lottery. I think Kevin Rudd, some time ago, looked at this is a feasible option. The only problem is that Australians might not be as keen on the lottery as the Brits are and that it might not be possible to create a rival lottery because of those Tattersalls morons. But the lesson here is that we should still look to the Brits in profiting from gambling. Aussies tend to gamble on things like sports betting and the pokies. They ruin lives. As far as I'm concerned, it does no harm to society whatsoever if those things are taxed more heavily. I'm no economist but I suspect that if they're so lucrative, they'll cop the tax. If not, they'll try to push the burden of tax onto the consumer, which means less gambling. Either way, Australia should look to alternate funding models (especially gambling). But we must not decrease funding for elite or grassroots sport. Yes Britain perform at "London" and here at Rio was just a coincidence of course...
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+x+xTo put it into perspective, Australia puts substantially less into elite sport than the UK does. From what I'm told, if you work it out, it would seem that the average Briton contributes £2 per year for elite sport. Hardly a lot? And, from what I'm told, it's not even that much. Basically, most of Britain's sport funding comes from the revenue of the National Lottery (which is privately run but owned by the British Government). So basically, it all comes from the profits of gambling. My line of argument is that we must not decrease funding of elite or grassroots sport. In fact, we should look to increase such funding if possible. If we decrease it, then we're going to become truly shithouse at the sports we take seriously and that lots of Australians have grown up competing in (swimming, hockey, rowing, triathlon, aths and cycling). If we're shithouse at sports we take seriously, that makes us a laughingstock. But we should be looking to find a more equitable way to fund it (so it's not taking too much money from the public purse). I like the idea of the National Lottery. I think Kevin Rudd, some time ago, looked at this is a feasible option. The only problem is that Australians might not be as keen on the lottery as the Brits are and that it might not be possible to create a rival lottery because of those Tattersalls morons. But the lesson here is that we should still look to the Brits in profiting from gambling. Aussies tend to gamble on things like sports betting and the pokies. They ruin lives. As far as I'm concerned, it does no harm to society whatsoever if those things are taxed more heavily. I'm no economist but I suspect that if they're so lucrative, they'll cop the tax. If not, they'll try to push the burden of tax onto the consumer, which means less gambling. Either way, Australia should look to alternate funding models (especially gambling). But we must not decrease funding for elite or grassroots sport. Yes Britain perform at "London" and here at Rio was just a coincidence of course... Ummmm, I'm saying that Britain's success is due, largely, to Britain pouring so much money into elite sport. What exactly did you think I was saying? Edit. Was your response intended for my post or for that of Condemned666? Having seen his post, it looks more like you were answering him.
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Does anyone know how to quote someone elses paragraph in order to reply to it? On ipad? Fuck this new format.
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I click quoted reply and it just shows up 'null'
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+xI click quoted reply and it just shows up 'null' does it to me too
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I've thought up a new Olympic sport.
Inspired by that -athalon sport which involves shooting. I thought why not have shooting, but being able to shoot at your opponents?
So I think they should have triathlon but the whole race has to be completed carrying a paintball gun. You're allowed to shoot at your opponents as you swim, cycle and run. Obviously you have limited ammo so you need to be somewhat economical about when you shoot at your opponent.
How does that sound?
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What went wrong for Australia at the Rio Olympics? It started on the top floor Rio Olympic team chef de mission Kitty Chiller was angry when she heard that the Australian swimming team had pulled down posters of past champions, such as Herb Elliott and Cathy Freeman, from the entrance to their floors in the Australian team block in the athletes' village. Rio Olympic team chef de mission Kitty Chiller was angry when she heard that the Australian swimming team had pulled down posters of past champions, such as Herb Elliott and Cathy Freeman, from the entrance to their floors in the Australian team block in the athletes' village.Rio Olympic team chef de mission Kitty Chiller was angry when she heard that the Australian swimming team had pulled down posters of past champions, such as Herb Elliott and Cathy Freeman, from the entrance to their floors in the Australian team block in the athletes' village. But, with a thousand other tasks to deal with, such as blocked sewer pipes, she let it pass. But, with a thousand other tasks to deal with, such as blocked sewer pipes, she let it pass.But, with a thousand other tasks to deal with, such as blocked sewer pipes, she let it pass. Along with the posters went the Australian Olympic Committee's "one team" logo, replaced by the swimmers' "our team" logo. Along with the posters went the Australian Olympic Committee's "one team" logo, replaced by the swimmers' "our team" logo.Along with the posters went the Australian Olympic Committee's "one team" logo, replaced by the swimmers' "our team" logo. The swimming team, which occupied the higher floors of the Australian tower, had become a team within a team. The swimming team, which occupied the higher floors of the Australian tower, had become a team within a team.The swimming team, which occupied the higher floors of the Australian tower, had become a team within a team. When Chiller learnt, a week later, that the Australian team mascot, the yellow boxing kangaroo, had also been replaced by the Australian swimming team's Dolphin logo, she was furious. When Chiller learnt, a week later, that the Australian team mascot, the yellow boxing kangaroo, had also been replaced by the Australian swimming team's Dolphin logo, she was furious.When Chiller learnt, a week later, that the Australian team mascot, the yellow boxing kangaroo, had also been replaced by the Australian swimming team's Dolphin logo, she was furious. Chiller had already observed the exclusivity of the swimmers. Chiller had already observed the exclusivity of the swimmers.Chiller had already observed the exclusivity of the swimmers. Australian basketballers, such as Andrew Bogut and Patty Mills, earning millions of dollars playing in the US's professional league, had no problem playing table tennis with rowers and hockey players as they waited for the team bus for their competition. Australian basketballers, such as Andrew Bogut and Patty Mills, earning millions of dollars playing in the US's professional league, had no problem playing table tennis with rowers and hockey players as they waited for the team bus for their competition.Australian basketballers, such as Andrew Bogut and Patty Mills, earning millions of dollars playing in the US's professional league, had no problem playing table tennis with rowers and hockey players as they waited for the team bus for their competition. But she had never sighted a swimmer mixing in such a way with other team members. But she had never sighted a swimmer mixing in such a way with other team members.But she had never sighted a swimmer mixing in such a way with other team members. Admittedly, the swimmers returned to the village about 1am, after competing in a schedule to suit American TV audiences and then had to rise to be drug tested at 6.30am. Admittedly, the swimmers returned to the village about 1am, after competing in a schedule to suit American TV audiences and then had to rise to be drug tested at 6.30am.Admittedly, the swimmers returned to the village about 1am, after competing in a schedule to suit American TV audiences and then had to rise to be drug tested at 6.30am. Furthermore, their historic success in driving Australia's medal tally entitled them to some lofty independence. Furthermore, their historic success in driving Australia's medal tally entitled them to some lofty independence.Furthermore, their historic success in driving Australia's medal tally entitled them to some lofty independence.Winning five gold medals in Sydney, seven in Athens and six in Beijing, Australian swimmers have delivered between 26 per cent and 43 per cent of the country's total medal tally in recent Olympics.However, after two swimming gold medals on the first night of competition, Australia's chance of finishing in the top five in the national medal count sank.On the eve of the last night of competition, Swimming Australia's high-performance director and team leader in Rio, Wayne Lomas, sent out an email intended to jolly up the team.It said, in part: "If there is an issue, it's the behaviour or the action that we confront, not the person.... Whether someone achieves peak performance or they miss their own goal and dream through a sub-optimal performance, the individual's value is retained."His comments were lampooned as management speak gobbledegook, but days later Lomas was still sending out messages about "our team", separating it from "one team".A petty accusation? Perhaps, but longtime Olympic officials believe total team unity drives success, with athletes from disparate sports feeding off the results of others.More importantly, the performance of the swimmers has exposed the vulnerability of the Australian Sports Commission's (ASC) Winning Edge program.Winning Edge, a 10-year program to restore Australia to top-five status in the table of nationsrestore Australia to top-five status in the table of nationsrestore Australia to top-five status in the table of nations , after our eighth place in London, involves handing sports a bucket of money and placing them in charge of their own destiny.In order to provide more funding for these key sports, such as swimming, rowing, cycling and sailing, at a time when the federal government has cut its funding, ASC chair John Wylie has stripped more than $25m out of the bureaucracy of the ASC and its high-performance arm, the AIS.Its critics argue that it has emasculated the AIS which once had its own coaches, sports science staff, physiotherapists and talent identification experts in these targeted sports.So, Winning Edge stands accused of stripping away the accountability of these sports, with no organisation, such as the AIS, to act as a check on their programs.The ASC argues that it can't be held responsible for the performance of athletes at the Olympic Games.It merely provides the funds. It's up the sports to execute.However, with no strong AIS offering a critical view of the programs, sports are not held to account until after the results are posted at Olympic Games.Of the four engines which traditionally drive Australia's success at Summer Olympics – swimming, rowing, cycling and sailing – swimming, which received $37.9m in the four years leading to Rio, can argue the spread of medals was across more countries than at any previous Games.Furthermore, US swimmers Michael Phelps and Katie Ledecky, in collectively winning five individual gold medals and nine overall, were so dominant they could have competed as a separate nation and still been placed ahead of most countries.Rowing ($32.4m) has a young team under new president Rob Scott, a former silver medallist and top businessman. However, its sole gold medallist, Kim Brennan, 31, is expected to retire.Cycling, which received $34.1m in funding, had results which were extremely disappointing, with the sport depending on ageing champions, such as Anna Meares. Critics say it requires an immediate rebuild.Sailing ($29m) has invested in young talent, such as Jake Lilley, for Tokyo 2020 and will hope that Sydney businessman Anthony Bell can launch an America's Cup syndicate to retain its older sailors.It's highly likely the team sports will be a casualty of the dismal results at the Rio Olympics.They receive 25 per cent of funding but cannot produce a proportionate number of gold, silver and bronze, unless we count the number of medallists, rather than medals.The Boomers basketball team is one of the few team sports, along with women's sevens rugby, to advance past the quarter-finals, a result not seen since 1980.Hockey, which can only produce two medals, is based in Perth, the home of perhaps one or two players. Its critics argue hockey's continuing justification for being based in Western Australia can't simply be because its most celebrated player and coach, Ric Charlesworth, lives there.And his comment that the women's rugby win was a "soft" medal was seen as less than gracious, particularly when hockey receives $28.6m in funding, while sevens rugby is given $6.9m.On Monday, the performance of the swimmers and the team sports produced the comment from AOC president John Coates that "something has seriously gone wrong in Rio".Coates, an IOC vice-president who has been busy in the Olympic city dealing with recalcitrant Russians and the Tokyo 2020 team, has delegated the responsibility for Australian team performances to his subordinates on the AOC.With teams, such as the women's water polo squad leading by five goals and then losing in a penalty shootout, the question has to be asked whether the athletes surrendered to the fear of failure.If so, where were the team psychologists?Significantly, the Australian headquarters' psychologist at the London Olympics was Ruth Anderson, who is now with the invincible Great Britain cycling team.The ASC's Wylie justifiably argues Winning Edge is a 10-year program, not just a four-year cycle leading to Rio. Furthermore, results in world championships and Commonwealth Games also count.The Rio results also obscure the governance reform across many sports, although Wylie's policy of hand-picking top businessmen, such as Qantas's Leigh Clifford to head Equestrian Australia, has drawn a fierce rebuke from Coates.Coates told Fairfax Media that the policy of recruiting businessmen as leaders of Olympic sports had failed. Furthermore, he has withdrawn from an ASC-initiated review of the AIS and Winning Edge, effectively divorcing the AOC from the ASC.Japan has had 400 advisers in Rio ahead of Toyko 2020 and will have learnt what not to do when running an Olympic Games.But the Japanese have already copied a blueprint that has helped their rapid rise in the medal tally in Rio.Ten years ago, they built an institute of sport modelled on Canberra's AIS. Written by Roy Masters, appearing in the SMH on 20 August, 2016 http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/rio-2016/olympics-australia/what-went-wrong-for-australia-at-the-rio-olympics-it-started-on-the-top-floor-20160818-gqw5fl.html
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I'm not sure how true all that stuff about the swimmers is (and I doubt it's the case for all of them). But a few observations...
It sounds like a lot of the swimmers are absolute douchelords. I have the utmost respect for them, their talent and amazing work ethic. And I'm sure a fair few of them are fantastic people. But you do hear rumours of heightened levels of douchebaggery about them, which seem to apply more so than to other athletes.
I think it's a culture of past achievement, superiority and arrogance. They need to carry on being confident but quit being fuckwits. I reckon, if they can do that, they'll start getting the results they want.
I had a bad feeling when I heard that Campbell girl scream about how good she was and that she had beat Ledecky in the relay.
You can just imagine Patty Mills and Delly would be about a hundreds times more laid back (and more emotionally stable, too). Those guys would be happy to chill with everybody. But I can imagine certain athletes being very clique-ish.
That needs to go.
Next, I've got no idea if this Winning Edge thing is good or bad. What have they done to the AIS?
I'm really not sure what the best way for them to proceed is. Scary Japan has its own version of the AIS, though.
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Congrats to Brazil for winning Gold in the men's football, they really needed that.
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the other thing is
So what if America wins 120 odd medals in the olympics? Doesnt prove a thing
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