Rio 2016 Olympic Games Thread


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i think the campbell sisters featuring the cover of every woman's magazine in australia (in celebration of the olympics) comes with the expectation that they were going to take it out

Women take losing differently... I'll stop there...
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grazorblade - 12 Aug 2016 1:42 PM
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I wouldn't say NK were known for their mental strength in sports

I'd say USA are the only other country that I associate with mental strength in sport (to add to their formidable talents)

You sure it's not just the fact they have a pool of 300 million people to choose from ? 

I mean i'm sure if Australia had 15x it's current population we'd be pretty damn good at most sports 
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Condemned666 - 12 Aug 2016 6:27 PM
i think the campbell sisters featuring the cover of every woman's magazine in australia (in celebration of the olympics) comes with the expectation that they were going to take it out

Women take losing differently... I'll stop there...

I'm still waiting for Dawn Fraser to come out and tell them to go back to where they came from. :laugh:
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11.mvfc.11 - 12 Aug 2016 7:20 PM
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Not to mention their highly athletic melanin enriched descendants 

Joseph Goebbels on Inglourious Basterds talks about how only because of the offspring of the slaves, America can be competitive athletically and concludes that American Olympic Gold can be measured in Negro sweat.


AHAHAHA!



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Condemned666 - 12 Aug 2016 7:50 PM
11.mvfc.11 - 12 Aug 2016 7:20 PM

Joseph Goebbels on Inglourious Basterds talks about how only because of the offspring of the slaves, America can be competitive athletically and concludes that American Olympic Gold can be measured in Negro sweat.


AHAHAHA!



Although of course that doesn't explain their dominance in the pool
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Seven has decided to show replays on both of their channels instead of live sports. 
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I think teaching mental toughness is a real art

Graham arnold consulted wayne bennet about how to win a grand final (who has won nearly every one)


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Wayne bennet advises players not to play the game before hand
Also there is an art in not playing the opposition or the situation but playing against yourself

Mental strength is being able to do these two things. There is an art to coaching this I think. It has different versions in different sports. In cricket its not thinking of centuries or wins or the quality of the bowler but playing just the next ball on its merits whether its a pearl from a  part timer or a long hop from the worlds best.

Campbell admits that thinking of the win was her mistake
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/olympics-2016/cate-and-bronte-campbell-miss-out-on-medals-in-100m-freestyle-final/news-story/97b46aec22c7de3ec754356380a2e4da

to be honest though the coach should be on top of this aware of this possibility and helping prevent this and make sure that she is focused on the present.

I heard a rumour that some of our best olympic coaches got employed by other countries for big money. This would make since of the drop in performances over the last few olympics. Could anyone confirm or deny?

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There's a lot in that. And the mental toughness aspect transcends sport (and is found across every sport).

Steve Waugh was the ultimate tough competitor. I think, from the viewpoint of other Australian team sports (even the Socceroos), it's more than fair enough to speak to him about how how he went about things.

For example, he goes to Chris Rogers before the Lord's Test- this is your home ground. Enjoy it.

Susie O'Neill was immense, as well. The likes of McEvoy, those Campbell girls and Larkin would do well to listen to her. They've also swam below PBs.
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Roar_Brisbane - 12 Aug 2016 9:58 PM
Seven has decided to show replays on both of their channels instead of live sports. 

Many people have been less than impressed with their shit coverage. I've given up trying.


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grazorblade - 12 Aug 2016 10:36 PM
I heard a rumour that some of our best olympic coaches got employed by other countries for big money. This would make since of the drop in performances over the last few olympics. Could anyone confirm or deny?

A lot of the best Aussie coaches have worked for TeamGB in recent times, just like they've worked (and do work) for the ECB. UK Sport has a lot more money than the ASC.

Then the Chinese also pay truckloads, not sure how many Aussies coach there. Australia hasn't the wealth of those countries.

But to be honest, I don't think the technical aspect of the swimming is at fault here. The mental aspect, yes. Is that the coaches fault? Not sure.

Some people just aren't mentally that tough. Or else Mark Waugh would have had a Test average of about 60 (if he had Steve Waugh's tenacity). I get the feeling that may be the case one of those girls.

As for Larkin and McEvoy, it's a bit puzzling that they have been so far below PBs when they were so strong in the World Championships.

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quickflick - 12 Aug 2016 10:38 PM
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There's a lot in that. And the mental toughness aspect transcends sport (and is found across every sport).

Steve Waugh was the ultimate tough competitor. I think, from the viewpoint of other Australian team sports (even the Socceroos), it's more than fair enough to speak to him about how how he went about things.

For example, he goes to Chris Rogers before the Lord's Test- this is your home ground. Enjoy it.

Susie O'Neill was immense, as well. The likes of McEvoy, those Campbell girls and Larkin would do well to listen to her. They've also swam below PBs.

Steve Waugh's mental toughness was a joy to watch or beven in the short form
Another player worth mentioning for different reasons is mitchell johnson. Reputation for being mentally fragile but didn't clarke get the best out of him and help him overcome that hurdle

we lack mentally tough players at the moment in cricket. At the moment they are doing a lot right but look like they aren't enjoying their game whenever they play in tough conditions (thats an educated guess) and I think thats making a difference

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TheSelectFew - 12 Aug 2016 10:43 PM
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Many people have been less than impressed with their shit coverage. I've given up trying.

I've reverted to streams for certain events as they continue not to show them. 
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Something that shits me every Olympics coverage is the same 4 sports get replayed over and over. Show me some fencing, judo, teakwondo, wrestling or please for the love of god some Handball (that sport is farking awesome)


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Roar_Brisbane - 12 Aug 2016 11:15 PM
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I've reverted to streams for certain events as they continue not to show them. 

The Olympics isn't worth it. I hate the event.


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Those female shot putters. 
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The most ridiculous women's 10,000m from Almaz Ayana. Smashes the world record that's stood for 23 years by 14 seconds.
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sydneycroatia58 - 13 Aug 2016 12:54 AM
The most ridiculous women's 10,000m from Almaz Ayana. Smashes the world record that's stood for 23 years by 14 seconds.

Seven calling it one of the greatest ever races in Olympic history. But they absolutely butchered that, multiple adbreaks, they ended up cutting away mid-race to show the rowing (in which they were also showing on 7two). Piss poor.  
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One of the greatest races of all time or one of the most blatant displays of doping ever at the Olympics. The record she broke was set by a extremely dodgy athlete and no one expected it to be beaten. She probably will not test positive but that only shows the limitations of the doping testing.
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Looks like Sun Yang has ODed.
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thanks for the training session china we needed to rest a few guys
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I wish we didn't lose (in cycling) to brittian but it was a great race that took a world record to beat them
cant ask for more than that

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Can't say I'm disappointed to see USA women's football go home. Hope Solo with the usual whinge too.
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Aljay - 13 Aug 2016 8:42 AM
Can't say I'm disappointed to see USA women's football go home. Hope Solo with the usual whinge too.

LOL. Sums up Americans in general doesn't it. 


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quickflick - 12 Aug 2016 6:19 PM
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We already do send of our best to the States for training (on sporting scholarships). Gen LaCaze, the steeplechase girl, went to university in Florida. Lots of the aths people do. Some of the swimmers do (although the best seem to be in Aus, more). Heaps of the rowers to, I gather. A guy from my school won a rowing scholarship to Yale. Then there were a couple of rowing guys who went to Scotch who go to Harvard and Brown.

The nice thing about US (sporting) scholarships is they take basically anybody if they have the talent (regardless of their nationality). This is one thing I find more admirable about the States than I do about most of Europe (because the EU is basically anti-meritocratic).

The downside, however, though is that the American system of deregulation of universities (for all the sporting success) means that, in real-terms, the poor are kept down and don't have much hope of social mobility (unlike in other countries). There's always a way but it's certainly not the most equitable outcome.

I don't think the NCAA culture could be replicated in Australia as there isn't the population or the college culture. Most Aussies I know go to university in their home city and live with their parents. In the States, custom is to go into another state and go to college. It makes a far better college culture than Australia has.

As for deregulation of Australian universities... it hasn't much to do with sporting goals, but to do with improving the quality of research and improving their rankings. It seems Australian university rankings are falling and this is a real concern. There is talk of deregulating the fees for them somewhat. This would improve the quality of research and classes, generally. And, in so doing, push Australian universities up the rankings. But I worry that it would make it exceedingly difficult for Australians from poor socio-economic backgrounds to attend university.

Both the American system and the Nordic system have their upsides and downsides. I think Australia is between the two and it's not unreasonable.

No worries mate. I do believe the USA has a strong college culture, and it would be good if we could replicate this here as well.

I am not however supporting deregulation if it means that this will exclude people without financial means. Even without deregulation, course fees are approaching $100K and will exclude many people. 
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Another good medal and another world record for the frankly ridiculous Katie Ledecky. That's the 200, 400 and 800m she's won. A shame the women don't also swim the 1500m at the Olympics
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shame no aussies in the 50metre free

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wow a singaporian beats phelps

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Americans continuing to dominate the pool. Even winning gold medals they werent expected to. Aussies still getting slapped around like bitches.
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Again with the mental toughness in the penalty shootout against brazil
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