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Aikhme wrote:paladisious wrote:Aikhme wrote:Will Australia participate next year? Nothing guaranteed yet. Aikhme wrote:But how Cyprus came 21st has me flabbergasted. That was a great Heavy Rock number that deserved better too.
Just goes to show, it's not about picking the best song. Or it goes to show that other people may have different musical tastes and opinions to your own. Sure I can accept different tastes in music and that it is all subjective. Not a problem. But 21st? Nothing subjective about that. Countries vote in blocks, and for political reasons as well. It's probably why Ukraine won. I am not going to take that victory away from them though because if it helps the Ukrainian people in their hour of need, then I'm all for it. Edited by Aikhme: 16/5/2016 12:15:50 AM it's eurovision ...Australia made a song that does well in eurovision...Cyprus made a song you will hear on a rock radio station Poland made a song, that sound like a 80s pop song from back in USSR days
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adrtho wrote:Aikhme wrote:paladisious wrote:Aikhme wrote:Will Australia participate next year? Nothing guaranteed yet. Aikhme wrote:But how Cyprus came 21st has me flabbergasted. That was a great Heavy Rock number that deserved better too.
Just goes to show, it's not about picking the best song. Or it goes to show that other people may have different musical tastes and opinions to your own. Sure I can accept different tastes in music and that it is all subjective. Not a problem. But 21st? Nothing subjective about that. Countries vote in blocks, and for political reasons as well. It's probably why Ukraine won. I am not going to take that victory away from them though because if it helps the Ukrainian people in their hour of need, then I'm all for it. Edited by Aikhme: 16/5/2016 12:15:50 AM it's eurovision ...Australia made a song that does well in eurovision...Cyprus made a song you will hear on a rock radio station Poland made a song, that sound like a 80s pop song from back in USSR days Pretty interesting perspective and true. Australia got the jury vote. But why didn't the public go for it as much?
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Your logic is wrong Sweden has won twice recently as well as Austria.
Frans wasn't even the best Swedish song IMO. Sweden has a big qualification tournament in 6 cities with about 30 acts. But all the little girls voted for him , they vote the most.
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paladisious wrote:Aikhme wrote:Will Australia participate next year? Nothing guaranteed yet. Aikhme wrote:But how Cyprus came 21st has me flabbergasted. That was a great Heavy Rock number that deserved better too.
Just goes to show, it's not about picking the best song. Or it goes to show that other people may have different musical tastes and opinions to your own. Ukraine will let Australia in... 'After the deaths of so many Australians on Ukraine soil after the loss of MH17, we saw it fitting to invite Australia to Ukraine, as host of Eurovision 2017'. That will be the draft press release when it happens...
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scott21 wrote:Your logic is wrong Sweden has won twice recently as well as Austria.
Frans wasn't even the best Swedish song IMO. Sweden has a big qualification tournament in 6 cities with about 30 acts. But all the little girls voted for him , they vote the most. austria won when there was Jury voting , Scandinavian has 2nd strongest voting block after Russia
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Soft News wrote:paladisious wrote:Aikhme wrote:Will Australia participate next year? Nothing guaranteed yet. Aikhme wrote:But how Cyprus came 21st has me flabbergasted. That was a great Heavy Rock number that deserved better too.
Just goes to show, it's not about picking the best song. Or it goes to show that other people may have different musical tastes and opinions to your own. Ukraine will let Australia in... 'After the deaths of so many Australians on Ukraine soil after the loss of MH17, we saw it fitting to invite Australia to Ukraine, as host of Eurovision 2017'. That will be the draft press release when it happens... Never change. :lol: <3
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Australia will be in next year .....only thing is, SBS with the EBU is trying to set a asian vision song comp to start next year
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adrtho wrote:Australia will be in next year .....only thing is, SBS with the EBU is trying to set a asian vision song comp to start next year Spot on and here it is... Http://www.sbs.com.au/programs/eurovision/article/2016/03/21/sbs-secures-exclusive-option-develop-eurovision-song-contest-concept-asia
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Here we go, i can hear the NZ hyenas already.
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Serves you right for your laws against gays... Quote:Russian lawmakers have lashed out at arch-rival Ukraine's "political" victory in the Eurovision song contest, as one pro-Kremlin paper insisted Moscow's entrant was robbed. Ukrainian performer Jamala won the glitzy contest with her ballad 1944 about the deportation of the Crimean Tatars by Soviet authorities during World War II in a performance widely seen as a swipe at Moscow over its annexation of the peninsula in 2014. Russian singer Sergei Lazarev, the clear favourite with bookmakers before the contest, was beaten into third place after losing out on the national jury tallies despite claiming the most points from viewers in the public vote. "It was not the Ukrainian singer Jamala and her song 1944 that won the Eurovision 2016, it was politics that beat art," Russian senator Frants Klintsevich told Russian newswires, calling for Russia to possibly skip next year's tournament in Ukraine. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-15/eurovision-2016-russian-officials-bash-ukraine-win/7416328
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IMO Belgium & Russia were the two best - particularly Belgium, who I heard SFA about. Thought her act was fantastic.
Just for a bit of fun.. if Australia won & we were allowed to host it in Australia - where would we host it? Opera house is super iconic but unless we incorporated the outside, it's way too small. Thoughts?
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adrtho wrote:BrisbaneBhoy wrote:mcjules wrote:Apparently under last years voting system we would have won #robbed No, under last years voting system Russia would have won. Australia would have finished 3rd. Edited by BrisbaneBhoy: 15/5/2016 11:23:46 PM there no way Russia would have won, because they finished so low in jury vote...Russia was the same as Italy last year, italy won the public vote. but came 6 in jury vote to finish 3rd over all we don't know for sure, on till Eurovision will give both jury and public vote in all countries this is not 1st year of jury and pubic voting, it just 1st year of giving 12 points to both jury voting and public voting. Edited by adrtho: 15/5/2016 11:45:45 PM That's correct in the old system the jury votes and public votes were combined and then ranked based on that. So if you came first in the public vote and last in the jury vote you'd get no votes. Under the new system you'd get 12. The data on the jury and public votes have been released. If it was last years system Australia would have won with 320 votes to Ukraines 279.
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mcjules wrote:adrtho wrote:BrisbaneBhoy wrote:mcjules wrote:Apparently under last years voting system we would have won #robbed No, under last years voting system Russia would have won. Australia would have finished 3rd. Edited by BrisbaneBhoy: 15/5/2016 11:23:46 PM there no way Russia would have won, because they finished so low in jury vote...Russia was the same as Italy last year, italy won the public vote. but came 6 in jury vote to finish 3rd over all we don't know for sure, on till Eurovision will give both jury and public vote in all countries this is not 1st year of jury and pubic voting, it just 1st year of giving 12 points to both jury voting and public voting. Edited by adrtho: 15/5/2016 11:45:45 PM That's correct in the old system the jury votes and public votes were combined and then ranked based on that. So if you came first in the public vote and last in the jury vote you'd get no votes. Under the new system you'd get 12. The data on the jury and public votes have been released. If it was last years system Australia would have won with 320 votes to Ukraines 279. fuck, that big, i didm't think it be that wide of a margin
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Rankings using last years system
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Apparently the Danish juror misunderstood the voting system and accidentally gave Ukraine 12 points and Australia 10 when she actually wanted to give us 12 and Ukraine 0. :lol: Wouldn't have changed the result but the margin of defeat would have been 9 points instead of 23. http://eurovisionworld.com/?esc=danish-jury-member-gave-wrong-points
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Aikhme wrote:johnszasz wrote:paladisious wrote:johnszasz wrote:Wtf Poland. When I see all these comments for Poland I expect something more than Jesus in a guard uniform. Does he want to start crying?
Maybe Australia really will blow them away. Am I just a cynical bastard or has it really been a weak field so far this year? I really hope she kills it. Perfectly valid and the reaction here is similar. Wow Cyprus upbeat. I like. Oh yeh, it was a great song and should have done better in the voting. I think if men at work can get sued for their little tune that sounds like something else then i think that cypriot band would be hoping the killers weren't listening to eurovision. I also think the uk entry was a tune nicked from something else but i can't put my finger on it
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scubaroo wrote:Aikhme wrote:johnszasz wrote:paladisious wrote:johnszasz wrote:Wtf Poland. When I see all these comments for Poland I expect something more than Jesus in a guard uniform. Does he want to start crying?
Maybe Australia really will blow them away. Am I just a cynical bastard or has it really been a weak field so far this year? I really hope she kills it. Perfectly valid and the reaction here is similar. Wow Cyprus upbeat. I like. Oh yeh, it was a great song and should have done better in the voting. I think if men at work can get sued for their little tune that sounds like something else then i think that cypriot band would be hoping the killers weren't listening to eurovision. I also think the uk entry was a tune nicked from something else but i can't put my finger on it I am not familiar with the song in question. Perhaps you can post a YouTube. But don't be so quick to jump to conclusions. The Cypriot may have paid a royalty which is usually the case. The same with the UK Team. They would have lawyers checking things out for them surely.
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scubaroo wrote:Aikhme wrote:johnszasz wrote:paladisious wrote:johnszasz wrote:Wtf Poland. When I see all these comments for Poland I expect something more than Jesus in a guard uniform. Does he want to start crying?
Maybe Australia really will blow them away. Am I just a cynical bastard or has it really been a weak field so far this year? I really hope she kills it. Perfectly valid and the reaction here is similar. Wow Cyprus upbeat. I like. Oh yeh, it was a great song and should have done better in the voting. I think if men at work can get sued for their little tune that sounds like something else then i think that cypriot band would be hoping the killers weren't listening to eurovision. I also think the uk entry was a tune nicked from something else but i can't put my finger on it I think this is the song you're referring to! [youtube]Y5fBdpreJiU[/youtube] I think Cyprus are safe. Don't even think its close myself. Let's see what other's think. [youtube]k8LcNrqiIFE[/youtube] Edited by Aikhme: 16/5/2016 05:06:57 PM
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We was robbed!
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The chorus sounds very killer-esque, the verses not so much.
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News Corp wrote:[size=7]Work on Australia’s spin-off of Eurovision is ramping up after Dami Im’s result. New details revealed[/size]
WORK on an Australian spin-off of the Eurovision Song Contest is ramping up in the wake of Dami Im’s incredible second-place finish in Sweden on Sunday. SBS announced in March it had acquired the exclusive rights to develop a music competition for the Asia Pacific region, at this stage called Asiavision. While early media reports had indicated it would launch next year, executives at the multicultural broadcaster said 2018 was a more realistic expectation. That’s no longer the case. “There’s a flurry of activity after what happened (at the) weekend,” an insider said. “SBS want this to happen next year.” The network’s content chief Helen Kellie confirmed the hope was to get Asiavision on air in 2017, with the inaugural spectacular to be hosted in Australia. “I think (this year’s Eurovision) renews our confidence in the idea that this is a big brand…what I can say is that we’re absolutely working on plans to get this happening next year,” Kellie said.
SBS is in discussions with broadcasters in China, Korea and Japan to form a reference group to urgently develop the concept. “And potentially India,” Kellie added. “Then obviously we’ll have additional countries who will participate but perhaps won’t be as active in the shaping of the editorial (side). “Our aim will be to have 12 countries (compete) in the first year.” Since Im narrowly missed out on winning Eurovision on Sunday, which was watched by a global TV audience of 200 million people, some of our biggest Asian partners have been in contact, Kellie said. “Absolutely, we’ve had a lot of interest. At the moment, our focus is on getting that reference group going. We want a set of partners to help us shape what the show is.”
Australian Recording Industry Association boss Dan Rosen said the format would open local musicians up to huge new markets. “If it can have even a small part of the success that Eurovision has had, it’s got big potential,” Rosen said. “We know our artists are world-class so the more exposure, the better.” While she was in Stockholm to watch Im compete, Kellie met with the European Broadcast Union who organise Eurovision to discuss the Asia Pacific adaptation. “We’ve got a lot of details (to finalise) but they’ve been amazing … they’re incredibly supportive of what we’re trying to do.”
She concedes staging the event will be a huge undertaking but said the model was designed to be cost-neutral to begin with, before making “a modest profit” in a few years’ time. Hosting our own version of the long-running show, now in its 61st year, also doesn’t mean we’d wane in our interest in competition in the main event, Kellie said. “Look, it’s early days yet — I’ve literally just landed so I haven’t quite formulated a plan, but obviously we’ll be discussing it with the EBU and Ukraine, who host next year. “We’ll have everything crossed that we’re invited to compete again, but it’s very much their choice.”
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paladisious wrote:News Corp wrote:[size=7]Work on Australia’s spin-off of Eurovision is ramping up after Dami Im’s result. New details revealed[/size]
WORK on an Australian spin-off of the Eurovision Song Contest is ramping up in the wake of Dami Im’s incredible second-place finish in Sweden on Sunday.
Im a Eurovision Eurosnob. I dont know how they do it in Russia, or other places but I didnt like that Im was asked/selected. In Sweden there are 5 rounds in different cities then a second chance semi and the final in Stockholm of the Melodifestivalen. The winner represents Sweden and it pretty much has better songs than Eurovision on average. This is a short recap of the 12 Swedish finalist [youtube]h8KPr9eu79Q[/youtube] no. 9 Boris plays second division for Defgerfors I think SBS could be on a winner if they can work out a good format. Eg. have 1 semi in Melbourne and Brisbane then a final in Sydney on phone votes. Even start off with one qualifier in Sydney (it is good exposure for the artist and could be good is they could generate sponsors etc.) I think there was about 3-4 better songs than Frans, but he got all the little girl votes He was already known as he had a Zlatan song 10 years ago [youtube]DjAnn7VgsMg[/youtube]
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scott21 wrote:Im a Eurovision Eurosnob. I dont know how they do it in Russia, or other places but I didnt like that Im was asked/selected. I'm pretty sure the majority of entrants are picked by the member broadcaster, and I would speculate that in many cases it is done with serious industry consultation with a view to get the best result they can. No country goes anywhere near as all out to select their entrants as Sweden, but it would certainly be an easy win for a potentially hit show for SBS to put on at a relatively low budget, certainly for a potential Asiavision place. I imagine SBS' music industry partners wouldn't be happy to be out of the loop for the choice of Eurovision entrant at this stage, considering they bankroll the endeavour. Edited by paladisious: 20/5/2016 07:38:46 PM
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paladisious wrote:scott21 wrote:Im a Eurovision Eurosnob. I dont know how they do it in Russia, or other places but I didnt like that Im was asked/selected. I'm pretty sure the majority of entrants are picked by the member broadcaster, and I would speculate that in many cases it is done with serious industry consultation with a view to get the best result they can. No country goes anywhere near as all out to select their entrants as Sweden, but it would certainly be an easy win for a potentially hit show for SBS to put on at a relatively low budget, certainly for a potential Asiavision place. I imagine SBS' music industry partners wouldn't be happy to be out of the loop for the choice of Eurovision entrant at this stage, considering they bankroll the endeavour. Edited by paladisious: 20/5/2016 07:38:46 PM True. I think have a comp it is good because it gives artist a national platform and some of them turn into summer hits. Personally I think it is better to engage with Asia. [youtube]fanBvJjuTFg&list=PLa0JbAaYGWv4PH2ilu9mQ_dIUNSFY2tSD&index=14[/youtube] We all need more Sri Lankan pop in our lives
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They are both Australian
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Viet Guy wrote:scott21 wrote:They are both Australian They are not born in Australia and they grow up in house with Asian culture. This is not important, Asian countries dont want Australia to lead Asiavision. Australia can have Oceaniavision. Australia not in Asia or Europe. I admire your passion but you are mistaken. Even if Asia views Australia as European or not Asian it is not important. As the article states; - SBS have the rights to the event, so Asia cant set up this competition without Australia - Asia countries have been contacting Australia to be involved - China, Japan, Sth Korea and possibly India will be involved in the competition structure - It was originally going to happen 2018 , but they are so interested it will probably happen 2017 Asia is interested. It will be in English and hosted in Australia for the first year. I do not expect Australia to win so it will be in Asia in 2018. This will become popular. So Australia are in it or it doesnt happen.
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They have the rights to the concept.
Also, they need a country like Australia to set it up because China wouldnt join a comp set up by Japan and vice versa for example.
If the Vietnamese sites you read dont want it, dont watch it. Vietnam will be represented in Australia 2017.
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who the hell would want Asiavision?
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