What you have to remember is that you are a dinosaur. A dying breed. Kids dont remember 'hellas'. The boogeyman you paint them up to be doesnt exist anymore. 

I am not a fan of MK joining, but you need to move on with your past just like SM are doing/have. You dislike them the most, I dont care why but you need to let go of what your papa told you. He moved away from the old country to set you free. Its a shame he taught you to hate. 

Some of the mono ethnic clubs that hang on to their grim past and refuse to broaden are the dinosaurs. Shame as they do have their place, just not where someone delusional  think they belong.

They have no future in top flight scottyboy, because their main objectives are from the growth of the game but rather self interests. Maybe in another generation or two.

You're absolutely right mate. Only in the last month have the Melbourne Victory NPL side had one match behind closed doors and another cancelled two weeks in a row. 

The bitters must really hate them in the NPL lol.

Interesting know how many kulchered fans have abandoned the likes Melb Croatia, SM Hellas and the like in support of Melbourne Victory for wanting to watch top flight football? And their reaction or behaviour when they play their ol club?

No issues with A League Fans.....

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Statement on Melbourne Victory v South Melbourne

                        

Statement on upcoming PlayStation 4 NPL Victoria Round 22 match

                        

The Round 22 PlayStation 4 NPL Victoria match between Melbourne Victory and South Melbourne FC will be played behind closed doors.

The match has been assessed by Football Federation Victoria under its match security guidelines protocol.

Both Melbourne Victory and South Melbourne have been involved in the decision making process and understand and accept FFV's decision to play the match behind closed doors.

Only players, officials, family members and accredited media will be allowed entry.

FFV appreciates that some fans will be disappointed with this decision. The decision to play the match behind closed doors was not taken lightly. FFV, Football Federation Australia and all Clubs will continue to work towards providing the best possible match day experience for all fans and supporters.

                        
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Football Federation of Victoria Disciplinary Tribunal
Decision
Fixture: Melbourne Victory FC v South Melbourne FC
Competition: FFV NPL
Date of Fixture: 24 April 2016
Date of Hearing: 8 June 2016
Introduction
On 24 April 2016, there was a National Premier League fixture between South Melbourne FC
and Melbourne Victory FC.
At approximately the 50th minute mark, a violent incident occurred where approximately 32
supporters from Melbourne Victory entered the field and ran around the athletics track to engage
in a violent incident with supporters of South Melbourne. Items were thrown into the South
Melbourne crowd, South Melbourne supporters were spat upon, punches were thrown and a
container containing fluid, possibly chlorine, was thrown into the South Melbourne crowd.
The incident was captured on video. We were provided with relevant parts of the video
recordings.
On 23 May 2016, we heard and determined 17 charges brought against individual supporters of
Melbourne Victory. The supporters have been banned from being able to attend an FFV fixture
for up to five years and the bans also prevent participation in the sport generally.
A further charge has now been brought against Melbourne Victory (MP10 within the meaning of
the Football Federation Victoria Grievance Disciplinary and Tribunal By Law (GDT)) as a result of
its club associates engaging in conduct that has brought or might be likely to bring the club, FFV
or the game of football into disrepute or otherwise adversely affecting the image or reputation of
the club, FFV or the game of football and for participating in a violent melee.

Bump

Lol. Not worthy of a bump.

Define abandoned... And now people can't follow more than one club? You suggest Mono-allegiances? Lol

And btw. You know an awful lot about melb clubs in the NSL... I'm starting to suspect you're in a resort somewhere in Melbourne.
You remind me of someone tbh.

LOL you are so full of shit. 

3 YEARS TOPS

Typical response from someone in denial.

The bitters gave the A-League 3 years tops and now it appears 300 years tops they want the action with the money to go with it after so many worked hard to achieve by ridding the old baggage. Not shit, just fact. Refer the Crawford report that tries to be unobvious but had to state that the mono ethnic issue is problem. Fortunately this was addressed to the bitters and haters like you dislike.

You know it, everyone knows it but you don't care.

Well that's the question I'm asking. Given the size of the MV support and the diminished mono ethnic support barely into their hundreds watching games, I'd say the word abandoned is quite appropriate. Some not for sure. But those few with dual interests, how many are bitter and only ventured to MV under duress because of their mates or simply wanting to watch top football etc? What input to the incidents have these duel interested fans contributed? Makes you wonder if allegiance fuelled by their ol man would make them wonder and possibly react in bitterness? Don't know. Lot's of questions but no answers!

Kultcha kulcha kulcha oi oi oi

And it was you who gave the eff eff aye cup 3 years tops. Lol fail. 

If you didn't see the sarcasm you are more stupid than I even thought LOL.

Im talking about smfc here. Their being abandoned by the governing body is the reason theyre in limbo... in every sense of the word. Compare smfc w other nsl teams that were invited to the party ie AUFC, PGFC. Ridiculous insinuation that fans jumped ship to mv due to peer pressure lol


"What input to the incidents have these duel interested fans contributed?"

What incidents? Are you saying that the MV fans that beat up old men at lakeside are rival npl fans disguised as victory fans? Maybe so.... but it sounds like a convenient way for u to blame "old socka"....either way smfc arent at fault....your generalisations don't do that situation or smfc themselves any justice.

its pretty easy to follow 2 teams when theyre in 2 entirely differnet competitions... and in same comp?... same thing... got mates all over europe in varioys countries snd myself included, that follow the club of the (usually capital)  city they live in aswell as their hometown/childhood clubs. It doesnt automatically turn someone into chlorine weilding terrorist and their old man into a fascist. 

Pauly the direction you've taken this discussion isn't relevant so stop mentioning songs that are being sung or anything like that because that comes from the clubs history of being an ethnic club. The only discussion point should be that they have a history of supporting fascist groups and the club has never been able to eradicate this, although there are those that support it from within. Nazi salutes, banners mentioning killing people etc. should be red flags immediately.

This should really be the end of the discussion.

How and why should that be a point of discussion let alone the only one? You really think that even comes close to the disgrace that Victory supporters are? No one gives a shit about politics except for lefty propaganda fan boys like yourself. 

Ps thanks for responding to my earlier questions. 

Good to see this thread has been ruined.

Top work.

-PB

Don't you mean:

Joke of a thread, I'm out.

@ Preist. Firstly I can see it's pointless answering your other questions. Reason being if you can't see the issue behind these very basic problems there's no point in discussing them. Just on Victory, they were created in the aleague before they were stirring up trouble. They're already in the league now which makes it different. The owners are trying to do what they can to eradicate the people causing problems. Knights for many years were/are still causing problems yet what moves has the club made to eradicate those people doing so. And because they've been proven to be problematic already why accept them now.

Only reason you think it's pointless is because you don't have answers. The biggest issue here is your political agenda, because other than you I don't really see anyone kicking up such a fuss, and it's not for no reason. Give me an example of any problems the club has had due to 'pushing a political agenda' in the last 10 years? How is it that despite numerous amounts of people visiting Knights Stadium only having pleasant things to say, you somehow can't see through some bullshit cloud of the club pushing a political agenda. 

I already cleared that up so go back and reread. Political agenda? haha please tell me what my politcal agenda is. This should be good...

Its sad that you support the nazi salute being given at games. Its a shame you support people showing banners talking about killing children. Why dont you address these issues. I kick up a fuss because whenever these guys do any of the above it looks bad on the Croatian community. Now unless your a part of that community then you couldnt get it. At the moment it all flies under the radar because they're not playing on the national scale. 

Yeah the community has copped it PR wise because of Knights in the last decade. Give me a break. It's sad that you need to revert to trying to put words in my mouth when you know nothing about me. You're basing your whole argument on very isolated 'incidents'  by a group of people made up of individuals that attend games for around 3 years on average. 

Still waiting for you to show me any trouble the club has had in the last decade, rather than a photo of 20 youths signing about how high their corns are. 

Things are bound to fly under the radar when they are virtually non existant my friend. 

Until you say that your against these things, which you havent, then I will continue to say you have no problems with them. Nice try telling me I have a political agenda and well done on avoiding saying what that agenda is. Because you know I have not stated any political views besides being against some of the actions of this group.
These arent isolated. They are constant occurrences at their games. The fact all the above is true yet you deny it makes me wonder what connections you have to all this. Whats your background? 

The argument is should they be allowed in the league or not. The actions they display during games on a constant basis and the fact that the club hasn't eradicated this behavior should be a big NO to them ever getting into the aleague. 

Is this question related to political stuff as in association with Nazi/facists or do you mean as in like the anti-Serb banner supporters dsiplayed the other day?

Or are you talking about problems in general like the fans waiting in the car park the other night to show the Melb City 'ard nut casuals who is boss?

This is their 60th video released 3 years ago, you dont even need to watch past the first minute sadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv8louCctbk

A video celebrating the club and that is how they choose to start it.

From the Melbourne Croatia's match 2013 proudly showing their illegal activities without shame or guilt. The club turning a blind eye is situation normal.
Repeat 2013

Irrelevant. If flares was the issue then I wouldn't have any problems with them joining the league as this can be curbed. 

Still waiting for some examples. Or you haven't actually witnessed anything?

It's the history of the club mate.