AFL to take over soccer pitches with new game


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petszk - 12 Feb 2018 12:55 PM
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I'd say the 41k figure is probably accurate.
(Ugh. I'm defending the AFL here. I feel so dirty).

As mentioned previously, tickets were $2 and included public transport.
I'd wager there were a lot of tickets sold to people who just wanted a chance to head out and take a look at the new stadium and weren't the slightest bit interested in what was happening on the pitch.

This Sunday, the Fremantle women's team is playing at Fremantle oval, and it's free entry. I dare say the crowd will drop back down to the usual AFLW size for that match.

Sunday, 18 February (3:35 pm)
Fremantle 6.0 (36) def. Melbourne 4.7 (31)
Fremantle Oval (crowd: 3,125)





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petszk - 19 Feb 2018 2:32 PM
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Sunday, 18 February (3:35 pm)
Fremantle 6.0 (36) def. Melbourne 4.7 (31)
Fremantle Oval (crowd: 3,125)



38k to see a stadium. Only in Perth.


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Omfg, i just watched this for the first time. Highlights of one match from hindmarsh the other night. Crows and Magpies. What a fucking retarted thing. Are they serious? Kick mark whistle kick mark whistle zooper blah blah blow some smoke and repeat. The whistle seemed to be providing the atmosphere. It was like a really bad rave. Good luck with that and wow, contrast that to a the proper football match that occured there 48 hours later. The difference couldn't be more stark. What a giggle.

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AFLX has finished its first public outing, was it a success — or is it just 'AFL lite'?

  By Emily Bourke        Posted   Patrick Wilson during the grand final match between the Adelaide Crows and Geelong Cats.

While crowd numbers were comparatively low and the television ratings modest, the Australian Football League is claiming success after the first round of its experimental format, AFLX.The AFL wanted fans to experience the unexpected with AFLX, a fast-paced format played on a rectangular field with seven players on the field and three on the bench.The tournament games were played across a three-day carnival, with each day seeing six teams play in a round-robin format.

What is AFLX?

  • The game is played on a rectangular field (100-120m x 60-70m)
  • Each side has 10 players - seven on the field, three on the interchange
  • Two 10-minute halves will be contested
  • A super goal is worth 10 points
  • A ruck ball up will be used
David Stevenson, the AFLX project manager, said anytime a new concept gets introduced there are always people who need a bit of convincing. "But you also have people who jump onboard straight away," he said."We want to listen to the fans and the players and the clubs, and the broadcasters, and decide how do we make some of those changes and make it even better next year."

Coming soon: More marks, and more of a contest

Ms Stevenson said there are already some tweaks to the format planned for next year."We'd like to get some more high marks between the forward line and we'd like to get maybe a little more contested footy, so we'll look at the number of players on the ground," he said."And then there's some things we learn off field as well. How do we make it more fun and exciting, particularly for those new kids we're trying to attract to the game?"Stevenson said they have received positive feedback from younger audience members, with the kids describing AFLX as "fun" and "exciting".
"I think what we want to make sure is we listen to the kids, they're our most important market here," he said."So based on their feedback we feel pretty good."

Is it just 'AFL lite'?

Francis Leach, a sports broadcaster, said in terms of a spectacle the new game was "AFL-lite.""It was designed to provide a teaser to the season," he said."But more importantly — strategically to the AFL — it's designed to try and build some momentum to encroach on sports grounds in the northern states."Leach said the AFL struggled to find enough ovals in those states to grow their game, so they utilised the more common rectangular field."They're going to be changing the game to try and colonise Queensland and New South Wales — because it's a game that can be played on a rectangular field, I think it's a simple, as brutal as that."Leach said it would work as a "recreational practice.""Sport these days, in a time poor environment, is something where people want to be able to play in a short period of time," he said."And as a version of the game that's not requiring 18 players a side on the field at any one time, that goes for over two hours, it's probably a smart move."ABC sports commentator Paul Kennedy said he could not see the format taking off. "The AFLW has much bigger appeal to me as a real contest. If you're watching sport you want to watch a proper contest," he said."[In the AFLX] I know that players are trying to get as fit as they possibly can but I'm not sure that they were desperate to win."Kennedy said it looked like they were trying to copy the success of the Rugby 7s, which has done well internationally.But he could not see the same international appeal for AFLX."I don't see it travelling and I actually think that although they want to broaden their appeal, it might work against the core values of what the AFL should be — and that is community football," he said."Because at the same time that they're doing this and trying to experiment, there are parts of the Aussie Rules heartland — like Tasmania — which is really struggling at the moment."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-19/was-the-afls-new-experimental-format-aflx-a-success/9460896
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Of course the ALF is claiming success. As they did with Wellington and China. Both were absolute failures for the sport but great business for ALF.


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Of course the ALF is claiming success. As they did with Wellington and China. Both were absolute failures for the sport but great business for ALF.

What was it, 10'000 South Africans playing by 2010? Aussie Rules was the first to break down the racial barriers as the only sport that all South Africans could play... :hehe: Not to forget the success of the 'Peace Team' as the first attempt at bringing people together in the Middle East. Then there are amazing AFL successes in NSW, QLD, NZ, China, India and the conversion of Australia's 'Islanders'.

It'll be fun to bump this in two years, no doubt their ADHD fans will have forgotten about this amazing success and will be hyping the fact that the AFL has just invented disability sports or synthetic balls.

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Of course the ALF is claiming success. As they did with Wellington and China. Both were absolute failures for the sport but great business for ALF.

What was it, 10'000 South Africans playing by 2010? Aussie Rules was the first to break down the racial barriers as the only sport that all South Africans could play... :hehe: Not to forget the success of the 'Peace Team' as the first attempt at bringing people together in the Middle East. Then there are amazing AFL successes in NSW, QLD, NZ, China, India and the conversion of Australia's 'Islanders'.

It'll be fun to bump this in two years, no doubt their ADHD fans will have forgotten about this amazing success and will be hyping the fact that the AFL has just invented disability sports or synthetic balls.


The unexpected success of the inaugural AFL Women's competition in Australia has caught the eyes of many female athletes keen to get involved in the action in season two.

But the level of interest has spread well beyond Australia.

As Bindi Bryce reports, the members of a budding women's football community in Solomon Islands are looking forward to the day when one of their own makes their mark on the AFLW, and gets the chance to become a superstar.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/pacific-beat/2017-04-11/female-afl-players-in-solomon-islands-hoping-for-a/8433316


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The Solomon Islands is one of the great footballing nations in Oceania.
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Clubs want more players, contests and bonus points in AFLX

That’s the message the AFL is getting from clubs after the first edition of AFLX.

Clubs are currently providing feedback to the league after the inaugural three-day exhibition series, with several telling the Herald Sun the product would be better by having more players on the field.

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Teams were allowed seven, with three on the bench and unlimited rotations in at least two matches consisting of two 10-minute halves and no time-on.

Club officials said nine players per side would be the ideal scenario given most matches lacked contests and made key position talls and inside midfielders redundant in a runner’s game.


Clubs want to see more contests in AFLX games. Picture: Michael Klein
Clubs were also of the belief that most goals were boring given their sides stood no chance of defending the field with only seven players.

But at least one Victorian club will ask the AFL to move the tournament back to the weekend off between Round 23 and finals.

Under the proposal, AAMI Park would be used for a 10-team knockout competition between non-finalists, with prizemoney among the incentives.

Among the other recommendations set to land at AFL headquarters, are:

LENGTHENING the Zooper goal from 40m to 45m.

REWARD bonus points for goals kicked from tight angles.

KEEPING two forwards and two defenders at either end of the ground to ensure more contests.

GAMES played at purpose-built soccer stadiums overseas.


AFLX being played at Etihad Stadium. Picture: Michael Klein
Greater Western Sydney chairman Tony Shepherd said he’d never seen players more exhausted.

“At the end of the round robin, they were out on their legs, so it’s fast and furious but I think it will grow,” Shepherd said.

“It needs a little refinement like any new competition but I thought some of the games were outstanding.

“I’d probably see us making it a little earlier, maybe in December, give you a bit more of a gap before you come into the main season.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/clubs-want-more-players-contests-and-bonus-points-in-aflx/news-story/b1f9b22bd1789cf9a348edf57e8e9c5d
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AFL explores BBL-style franchise comp for AFL to attract investors, push into overseas market

The game’s governing body has left the door ajar to take the new format in any direction it sees fit, including playing games in Hong Kong post-season.

The realisation that clubs would be asked to release players to play for privately owned ‘franchises’ in a carnival-style tournament — potentially overseas — would transform how fitness staff and coaches structure their off-season programs.

It’s believed discussions regarding the concept are still in preliminary stages. But AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan has already shown a ‘try this’ boldness with AFLX and discussed the possibility of a franchise-based tournament on Friday night.

The aforementioned league could also allow retired players to be ‘purchased’ for the shortened and less physically demanding format, just as the BBL has re-launched several careers over seven seasons including Brad Hodge, Brad Hogg and Mitchell Johnson.

“Could you have players like Leigh Montagna or Steve Johnson stay around and play in an international tournament and try to make an earn out of it,” McLachlan said on Channel 7.

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Jimmy Toumpas of the Power in AFLX.
Jimmy Toumpas of the Power in AFLX.Source: Getty Images
“Could you have the club AFLX team owned by someone?

“Could you have players from the senior list during the season playing for a different team in a November X tournament?”

Although it could be years until a BBL-style league of AFLX forms, the sheer possibility is almost certain to pit players against their clubs.

As per the most recent collective bargaining agreement, players are entitled to a minimum of six weeks leave every year. Even if they spent two of these weeks participating in an AFLX carnival, it would still leave a month of holiday time.

Players will argue there is a precedent for playing elite sport in their official holiday period — the Indian Premier League is the clearest example — while clubs will debate whether they should allow stars to risk injury beyond the odd International Rules outing in the off-season.

But as Western Bulldogs great Brad Johnson contends, money is the attraction that could appease both parties.

Johnson is a fan of the idea but concedes there would be plenty of logistics to work through. The sheer value of AFLX and whether it is sustainable is still relatively unknown.

Moreover, how appealing the concept is to local fans is one thing, but whether the game can flourish overseas is a completely different story.

If the investment is lucrative enough, Johnson even suggested clubs could be handed a cut of a player’s contract, which would sweeten the deal for apprehensive football managers and coaches hellbent on winning AFL premierships.

“There has to be a window in the future where gun players are being selected for independent teams,” Johnson told foxfooty.com.au when presented with McLachlan’s concept.


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“They would get paid to play the game and it might be 50K or 100K. In a way they can create their own sort of style, sort of like the Big Bash.

“There is a real place in the game for a franchise tournament where these players get the opportunity to play for new clubs.

“How good would it be for Patrick Dangerfield and Rory Sloane to play together? Or Tom Lynch and Lance Franklin in the same forward line?

“There is a lot that would have to go into this proposal. You need medical and coaches and so on. Who would pay for it? Probably a private investor.

“It’s worth a discussion. For the best of the best to take off, there has to be the right income coming their way.

Essendon champion Tim Watson shared Johnson’s optimism around the concept.

“If the AFL wanted this to happen, with their muscle to get things done, if they thought this was going to be something they can draw revenue into the game from, they can make it happen,” Watson said on SEN.

“If you offered players a significant amount of money to play one month of AFLX, how many players will say no?”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-explores-bblstyle-franchise-comp-for-afl-to-attract-investors-push-into-overseas-market/news-story/a560f3d0b865a84512f3f524ae45afcd
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This is still an Australian land and junior grab.

It may pay for itself overseas sure, but it will only ever be Australian players.

If they were serious they would work backwards from football not trying to make AFL on a football field.

Most kids on the planet have access to footballs not AFL balls. They could even recruit non contracted college basketball players, who could also train on Am football fields with footballs.

It should be like football, but with your hands and AFL goal posts. That way people overseas will be able to understand it.
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The benefit is that there are no particular skills required to play AFL, you could potentially get local athletes and even celebrities overseas to play. We have seen with AFLW that the quality is completely irrelevant to the game, it is more about supporting Australian football and culture, though this isn't really going to work for it overseas.

I'm still hoping this is the beginning of the slide into irrelevancy for AFL and both AFLX and AFLW show to me that it is a very ordinary game with a lot of money and media power but not much else. I really hope the FFA wakes up and goes back to structuring football as football should be, a game not a gimmick. 


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Eldar - 23 Feb 2018 5:22 AM
The benefit is that there are no particular skills required to play AFL, you could potentially get local athletes and even celebrities overseas to play. We have seen with AFLW that the quality is completely irrelevant to the game, it is more about supporting Australian football and culture, though this isn't really going to work for it overseas.

I'm still hoping this is the beginning of the slide into irrelevancy for AFL and both AFLX and AFLW show to me that it is a very ordinary game with a lot of money and media power but not much else. I really hope the FFA wakes up and goes back to structuring football as football should be, a game not a gimmick. 

Football Confidential: Business dinner promoting business and sport links in Asia snubs football

IT was a meeting of some of the great and good, politicians, businesspeople and sporting leaders at a plush dinner in Sydney to discuss how businesses can use sport to increase opportunities in Asia.


IT was a meeting of some of the great and good, politicians, businesspeople and sporting leaders at a plush dinner in Sydney to discuss how businesses can use sport to increase opportunities in Asia.

The timing was perfect too, with Melbourne Victory playing against Shanghai SIPG the night before, and Sydney FC playing in the same Chinese city an hour or so after the delegates left the Westin Hotel.

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Not that you’d have known, because brilliantly the organisers neglected to invite anyone from the one sport that Australians could chat about in just about any Asian city, and whose teams play right across the continent.

Former Test cricketer and Cricket Australia board member Michael Kasprowicz was one of the sports leaders at the business dinner in Sydney but no one from football in Australia was invited.

Former Test cricketer and Cricket Australia board member Michael Kasprowicz was one of the sports leaders at the business dinner in Sydney but no one from football in Australia was invited.Source:Getty Images

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Instead the delegates were treated to the insights of former fast bowler Michael Kasprowicz, Rugby Australia board member Ann Sherry, and best of all AFL Commissioner Gabrielle Trainor — a trailblazing businesswoman, but speaking on behalf of a code that gets wildly disoriented when it leaves Victoria, let alone contemplates engaging with Asia.

We’d love to know what insights for business the AFL’s one game in China could provide, but in the meantime the organisers of the forum, think tank AsiaLink Business, promise us football will be involved in future events.

“The opportunities presented by sports diplomacy and the business of sport with Asia is not a competition between sporting codes,” a spokesman said in a statement. “It’s an inclusive and forward-looking opportunity, that all sports and sports businesses can be part of.”

Business dinner promoting business and sport links in Asia snubs football

Of all the opportunities staring Australia in the face from the economic, social and political rise of Asia, sport and the business of sport offer some of the most compelling. We’re a proud sporting country, with a fabulous heritage in sport, passion for it and talents in it, meaning our lucky country has an outstanding opportunity for success. There is no doubting the opportunity for Australia.

Society is changing. Australia is changing. Sport needs to change, too, if we are to avoid the classic traps of complacency, indifference and overconfidence.

The Australian Sports Commission’s aspiration is for Australia to be the most active sporting nation, a healthy and successful sporting nation, known for our integrity, vibrant participation base, thriving sports organisations and world-leading sports industry, as well as our elite results.

It matters that Australia continues its proud standing and tradition in world sport, that future generations of Australian kids are inspired and motivated to get up and be active, to participate and enjoy all the benefits sport brings.

That inner confidence that they can do it, that they have the skills and ability to belong in sport and enjoy it, will stand them in good stead to be active and healthy throughout life. Sport matters because there’s nothing like it as a force for social change and good. Look at the rise of Paralympic sports and women’s sport.

The epic rise of a middle class numbering billions now unfolding to our north creates vast new markets interested in participating in sport and enjoying elite sports.

Asian governments understand the significance of this and the opportunities it creates for the global projection of soft political and cultural power. Look at the location the Olympic Games: the PyeongChang Winter Olympics in South Korea; the 2020 Summer Games in Japan; the 2022 Winter Games in China. Look at the stated intention of President Xi Jinping to build China into a global football powerhouse.

Forward-looking sports and sports businesses are pivoting in this direction. Australian sports research firm Gemba reports that over the next decade the global sports world will shift its axis to Asia, led by China. The industry there alone could be worth $US700 billion ($8.9bn) by 2025.

What an opportunity this presents Australia. Sport is our authentic national brand — and that can’t be manufactured overnight. Tennis Australia is leading the way, with a strong Asia focus. About 59 million people in China watched last year’s Australian Open, Japanese attendance figures doubled, and broadcast rights values are growing sharply. The AFL is trying to get in on the game through the new AFLX format.

Many small Australian ser­vices firms and individual entrepreneurs are already selling their globally competitive professional skills in and around sport, using skills they’ve learned here or relationships they’ve built up through sport. Other sectors have latent opportunity in sport, notably education.

There is a large indirect economic benefit from continued excellence in sport. We must sell brand Australia into Asia, leveraging off our clean, green, healthy image, in particular through food exports and tourism. Having an image as a healthy, active and successful sporting country reinforces the national brand positioning of our food exporters beautifully.

One pressing issue we need to confront in a hurry is about how unfit and obese we’re becoming.

What’s unique and surprising for Australia is the way the traditional bedrock of lifelong physical activity in our country, physical education in schools, is being marginalised in government school curriculums. It’s not a good omen for the country economically as it’s guaranteed to drive up long-term health care costs. A recent BCG report concluded that every dollar invested in sport and physical activity drives a $7 return to the country, largely through avoided future health costs.

The ASC is doing its bit by funding supplementary PE in schools and developing a new national reporting standard for parents about the physical fitness and motor skills of their children. We call this physical literacy. But we can do only so much.

The ASC, Australia’s peak body for sport, has had funding cuts in each of the past seven years, in total amounting to 26 per cent in real terms, while competitor countries have increased their funding. Fortunately, the federal government is stepping up with the forthcoming national sports plan, which will inject more funding into sport. We’re also looking at new non-government sources of revenue such as a lottery.

So there is reason to be optimistic. The revolution in women’s sport shows that the media and our companies remain hungry as ever for new ways to connect with their markets through the most unifying vehicle of all, sport.

John Wylie is chairman of the Australian Sports Commission. This is the edited text of a speech delivered last night to the Asialink dinner in Sydney.

Be good sports and we can have rails run into Asia


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“The opportunities presented by sports diplomacy and the business of sport with Asia is not a competition between sporting codes"

Ummhmm........so why did you leave football out?


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Eldar - 23 Feb 2018 7:16 AM
“The opportunities presented by sports diplomacy and the business of sport with Asia is not a competition between sporting codes"

Ummhmm........so why did you leave football out?

Literally the only code who is playing Asian opposition at this very moment in time and they 'neglected' to invite them.
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walnuts - 23 Feb 2018 8:28 AM
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Literally the only code who is playing Asian opposition at this very moment in time and they 'neglected' to invite them.

Either incompetent or malicious, either way, I wouldn't be doing business with them.


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walnuts - 23 Feb 2018 8:28 AM

Either incompetent or malicious, either way, I wouldn't be doing business with them.

Another example of the myopic view of this country and it's thinking about the world game if this function was organised through government organisations I would be even more disappointed but no more surprised
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Another example of the myopic view of this country and it's thinking about the world game if this function was organised through government organisations I would be even more disappointed but no more surprised

Dunno if it's been mentioned, but heres another glaring eg. of this bullsh1t (from Bonita Mersiades' book):

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All the more reason why rescinding S44.i can't come soon enough, IMHO⚠





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Kick her out of the country
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Thats a disgrace if true.

But more bizarre --- why did we then include OZZIE ROOLS into our WC Bid video???!!!
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59 million people watched the AFL game in shangai ????   sounds like GWS number counting stats again

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The whole bid (and bid process) was an absolute abortion, but that's one of the funniest stories I've ever heard:  we don't like sokkah!
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TRIMMING the lengths of games and quarters is something the AFL should seriously explore, Essendon CEO Xavier Campbell says.

AFL games run for close to two-and-a-half hours with quarters spanning 20 minutes, plus time on.

There are six minutes in between the quarter and three-quarter time breaks and 20 minutes at half-time.

Consumer trends are showing that shorter games are being better received by the public, according to Campbell, and he said it was important to challenge the norms.

"For us, I think there are opportunities to challenge traditional thinking and a lot of that probably goes to the heart of the length of the game and how the season looks," Campbell told Fairfax Media.

"Although our attendance numbers are probably saying we're still increasing attendance-wise, ... I think now's the time to look at what we think potential change could look like in that space.

"And I think the AFL would be open to what that looks like."

Campbell said the AFLX tournament, which consisted of a modified version of the game, had a lot of merit, particularly with the fast-paced nature of the game appealing to AFL novices.

Campbell was among the AFL club officials who recently attended the Super Bowl in Minnesota and said he took some key learnings out of the event.

He said 15-minute quarters plus time-on was about the right formula, but was at pains to say that the existing schedule was not broken.

"Is there other ways to add more value at front and end of the game for fans, for broadcast?" Campbell said.

"It's all different thinking, I'm not necessarily saying it's right or wrong, but it's a good time to challenge the way we consume our game and the way we present our game."

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-23/could-be-time-for-shorter-afl-games-dons-ceo
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That's like the other player/expert guy said.

Have shorter quarters and move to a 34 round full home and away plus AFLX.

This idea will catch on I think.
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Nachoman - 23 Feb 2018 11:24 AM
59 million people watched the AFL game in shangai ????   sounds like GWS number counting stats again

No, the Australian Open tennis

59 people watched the bogan foodee trip kick around 
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scott21 - 24 Feb 2018 2:28 AM
That's like the other player/expert guy said.

Have shorter quarters and move to a 34 round full home and away plus AFLX.

This idea will catch on I think.

Among many things about AFLX that doesn't make sense, and this ham fisted shortening of AFL idea is this: australian rules is already shorter than a 20/20 match.

All they're trying to do is ride 20/20s coat tails by bullying their brand into the coversation. Sorry. That "space"
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Seven’s Tim Worner on taking back #1, contract talks and AFLX future

Seven West Media CEO Tim Worner presented the first-half results this week as the channel faced life as #2 in commercial revenue share for the first time since 2005.

AFLX: Something to build on

Although Worner thought there were a few issues around the colour of the ball and the time of year the new AFL spinoff occupies, he thought there was certainly something to build on.

“Some of the venues could have been better. But I really enjoyed it and I think it has enormous potential.

“I loved the BT and James Brayshaw commentary combination. There is a chance they will work together again this year.”

Worner admitted the timing last weekend didn’t suit Seven. “With a better time it will get a much higher profile and a bigger audience.”

https://mediaweek.com.au/rosehaven-season-3-abc-sundancetv-guesswork/
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bohemia - 24 Feb 2018 3:22 AM
scott21 - 24 Feb 2018 2:28 AM

Among many things about AFLX that doesn't make sense, and this ham fisted shortening of AFL idea is this: australian rules is already shorter than a 20/20 match.

All they're trying to do is ride 20/20s coat tails by bullying their brand into the coversation. Sorry. That "space"

You mean like League 7s & 9s, and Union 7s 7 10s did already right?

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scott21 - 24 Feb 2018 5:08 AM
Seven’s Tim Worner on taking back #1, contract talks and AFLX futureSeven West Media CEO Tim Worner presented the first-half results this week as the channel faced life as #2 in commercial revenue share for the first time since 2005.AFLX: Something to build onAlthough Worner thought there were a few issues around the colour of the ball and the time of year the new AFL spinoff occupies, he thought there was certainly something to build on.“Some of the venues could have been better. But I really enjoyed it and I think it has enormous potential.“I loved the BT and James Brayshaw commentary combination. There is a chance they will work together again this year.”Worner admitted the timing last weekend didn’t suit Seven. “With a better time it will get a much higher profile and a bigger audience.”https://mediaweek.com.au/rosehaven-season-3-abc-sundancetv-guesswork/

No shit Worner.... your network is part of the AFL clan....
Never forget what chanel 7 did to the NSL

Nobody screws soccer like 7 ( there used to be stickers of this slogan years ago )
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BA81 - 23 Feb 2018 10:12 AM
conm - 23 Feb 2018 9:26 AM

Dunno if it's been mentioned, but heres another glaring eg. of this bullsh1t (from Bonita Mersiades' book):

😮😣😬😠

All the more reason why rescinding S44.i can't come soon enough, IMHO⚠



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