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Nachoman
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Victoria has Eddie Mcguire.... racist and yet still has a job
Adelaide has David Koch, ... typical AFL trainined knob... Port going gangbusters in china... and pulling the adelaide media along for a free junket too
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mouflonrouge
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+x+x+xi am so thankful i live in western sydney I would even consider moving to Sydney just to escape. it's like torture... seagulls fighting over a chip... lol well at least there is a reason or purpose of a seagull fighting over a chip,, in my entire life i have seen maybe 4 or 5 gws jersey's in sydney, in comparison on a non football day i saw 20 wanderers jersey's and about 6 eels jersey's (eels still suck) Good! You WSW just take over Sydney and control it.
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chillbilly
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+x+x+xi am so thankful i live in western sydney I would even consider moving to Sydney just to escape. it's like torture... seagulls fighting over a chip... lol well at least there is a reason or purpose of a seagull fighting over a chip,, in my entire life i have seen maybe 4 or 5 gws jersey's in sydney, in comparison on a non football day i saw 20 wanderers jersey's and about 6 eels jersey's (eels still suck) The only time I've ever seen GWS merchandise being worn by someone was last week at the derby and that was people who had been to the netball next door. Wanderers jerseys find themselves everywhere even seemingly inappropriate places. Who wears a jersey to the museum or at the other end of the spectrum to places where they are likely to be destroyed like construction sites?
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Swarth
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+x+xi am so thankful i live in western sydney I would even consider moving to Sydney just to escape. it's like torture... seagulls fighting over a chip... lol well at least there is a reason or purpose of a seagull fighting over a chip,, in my entire life i have seen maybe 4 or 5 gws jersey's in sydney, in comparison on a non football day i saw 20 wanderers jersey's and about 6 eels jersey's (eels still suck)
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mouflonrouge
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+xi am so thankful i live in western sydney I would even consider moving to Sydney just to escape. it's like torture... seagulls fighting over a chip...
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+xIt's amazing seeing how non-existant League is down here in Adelaide. United seem to be lumped in with basketball also - go local team and such. But AFL is just everywhere. Good thing I dont read the newspaper, watch the news or listen to much radio so I dont have to listen to it but when I do jeez it's sickening I make a point to NEVER watch anything AFL on TV to the point I would flick the channel the second anything is mentioned about it even in the news. I don't read the local paper as a rule or listen to any radio that has the stuff and we get bombarded too. it's so sickening. Last year, I couldn't even tell you where Freo or Eagles ended on the ladder if it wasn't for a die hard Freo supporter in the office. Never even caught a single result or watch the final even. just went out and did something nice and enjoy the sunshine or something. Maybe paint the verandah and watch the paint dry.
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Arthur
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What many have to understand this is a LAND GRAB.
Facilities, who owns them, who controls them, who access them is the Number ONE battle ground in this Country.
If we build synthetic pitches and AFL 9's uses them once or twice or times a week WE LOSE.
One of the key reasons for the emphasis on the AFLW is a means to secure their AFL Fields in suburban Melbourne.
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mouflonrouge
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+xHandball is s much bigger than than you give it credit tbh My mistake Red Dog.I just checked and wow handball is much bigger than AFL.played seriously in many countries .Who would have thought. The funny thing is there are many national sports which have spread to other countries .Which suggests a bigger problem for AFL . Here are some: Kabbadi played in Bangladesh. Pato played on horses in Argentina Buzkashi played on horses in Afghanistan Pesapallo played with bats and balls in Finland and now with a team in Australia. Gaga from Israel I think the long term future for AFL is a smaller ground with heavy balls ,two halves and shorter games. Having massive ovals taking up so much space in prime real estate is just a code killer. How is it sustainable to have so much money tied up in a junior or lower grade game in capital cities? How can you export a game so socially incompatible with space and economic realities in virtually every other country in the world? Where in Hong Kong,Manila,Bangkok,Tokyo,London,NewYork,Paris,blah blah blah are you going to find space for even one team to play? AFL internationally is doomed! Give up all hope now . Insert numerous emojees at will,because I can't yet from an iPad unfortunately. Yes handball is massive. Almost as popular as basketball. The Europeans are too fixated with football and Basketball is too huge as well. As for sports taking other space such as Tennis, cricket, handball, Volleyball etc etc Even Baseball has an in and softball. AFL can forget it.
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What a great laugh this thread is.
I've been around, and unfortunately for AFL, there is as much interest in the egg ball game as watching grass grow or paint dry. in fact, the latter 2 pursuits would be much more desirable than AFL is.
In contrast, there is significant interest in Cricket even in non Cricket countries. you see Cricket on the news and in the press often, but nothing about AFL. Zip! nada!
Even the Super Bowl has interest, but AFL.....nope.....nothing at all!
Sorry to break it to the AFL boffins, but I did love it how they tried to put the Women's AFL in the way of Sokkah in order to stop it in its tracks.
All the FFA need to do, is polarize the A League with the following:
1) more teams - 4 new teams in the A League
2) they need South Melbourne to be one of them, and another 3 teams.
3) A second tier semi pro (to start off with) league of 10 clubs with promo/relegation.
Then watch the AFL come up with more desperate brain waves to keep us entertained.
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Swarth
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+xGirlfriend plays in a mixed AFL 9's social comp. My join up myself next season for a bit of extra fitness. Not going to get me paying attention to AFL or buying a Swans membership though. Here in Newcastle is all Knights, Knights, Knights regardless of how crap they are going. Jets get some coverage, usually negative, and AFL is relegated to being lumped in with Basketball, Ice Hockey and Lawn Bowls. your girlfriend is already counted as both a swans and GWS member
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Wouldn't be surprised if this AFLX concept starts out as a NRL 9s style gig with all the games crammed into a weekend during pre season.
They'll book out AAMI Park during HAL season and then have the media compare there one weekend of gimmicks with City vs Nix or something.
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Girlfriend plays in a mixed AFL 9's social comp. My join up myself next season for a bit of extra fitness. Not going to get me paying attention to AFL or buying a Swans membership though.
Here in Newcastle is all Knights, Knights, Knights regardless of how crap they are going. Jets get some coverage, usually negative, and AFL is relegated to being lumped in with Basketball, Ice Hockey and Lawn Bowls.
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+x+xAFL secretly trials new version of footballLarissa Nicholson The AFL has been quietly developing a modified form of Australian Rules that is played on a soccer field, which it trialled in a secret match between two VFL teams last weekend. With the working name AFL X, the new version of the game allows just seven players from each team on the ground, far fewer than the usual 18-a-side, and is as part of a broader plan to become a year-round sport AFL boss Gillon McLachlan, speaking after the Hawks Young Executive Wing grand final breakfast, said the concept had come from a brainstorming session with his staff. He said the idea behind AFL X had been to attract non-football fans to the game and enable it to be taken to venues where football could not normally be played because they did not have an oval. "It was an idea that came up, to develop a new product, that was able to work in different venues and look different, in a shorter and different format" he told Fairfax Media. McLachlan said the trial match on the weekend had been a success, but plans to launch an AFL X competition are still a long way off. The AFL's general manager of game and market development Simon Lethlean stressed that AFL X was still very much in its infancy. He described it as an "internal think-tank" project, but said it had the potential fill a gap between a full-scale AFL games and the recreational AFL-9s format. AFL-9s does not allow tackles or bumping, whereas AFL X does. Lethlean said the weekend's AFL X match, run in four 10-minute quarters, had been a fast, high-intensity encounter which had left the VFL players involved exhausted. By fielding smaller teams and playing on a soccer pitch, he said it was easier than full-scale football to take overseas and may one day form a part of the AFL's international expansion plans. Lethlean also mentioned using the game in an off-season competition involving well-known, recently retired players. Every sporting body wanted to expand its reach, he said. "It's part of everyone's plan to be a 12-month a year sport," said Lethlean. The innovation comes as sports compete for the best athletes and bigger audiences. Cricket is an example of a sport that has launched a shorter format with spectacular success, Twenty20 becoming a massive money spinner and compelling TV product. The AFL's inaugural women's competition kicks off in February, an early start that would allow the players to remain involved in their local competitions and ensure they were not pitted against the men's season. Asked whether a future AFL X series would compete for public attention with the women's game, Lethlean said it was too early to give that any consideration. AFL staff will now review footage of the AFL X game between VFL players from the weekend and review statistics from the match. "I hope it leads to more people playing our game," Lethlean said. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-secretly-trials-new-version-of-football-20160907-gral7s.html I am so sick of hearing about about AFL living in Tasmania. When I'm in the league/union states, of NSW and Queensland, it is a pleasure to hear far less about AFL and consigning it to the irrelevance it is in terms of international sport. It is the only thing I dislike about living in a southern state in Australia. So much wasted money and media coverage is wasted on a sport nobody plays anywhere else on the world. I've travelled to 25 odd countries and have never heard or read one word about stupid Aussie Rules! Kids in urban school playgrounds don't play Aussie rules anymore. Media saturation keeps it alive. All other sports with the possible exception of cricket's BBL are adversely effected by the amount of resources that go into this stupid, irrelevant game. I love reading comments on this forum when residents of Queensland and NSW make disparaging comments about AFL. It is music to my ears! If you want to get away from AFL talk you need to keep well clear of fourfourtwo Australia!
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+xI get what the AFL is trying to do by making it a year round sport but there is one major flaw in this. At local level in Victoria. Basically all leagues bar the VAFA are riddled with excessive player payments that have been blown out of proportion in the last 7 years. Due to these levels of payments, local football is now becoming a business. If a player is signed to a contract and gets a couple of thousand cash a year, theirs an expected level of commitment for at least 9 months of the year. And generally in the off season between October-December players like their time off and most pre seasons start in December these days anyway. So while AFL 7's & 9's may be a decent product at a social level. It's not going to take the southern states by storm over the summer anyway. Just my 2c on it. This is a fair enough point, and at least is made with an understanding that first and foremost, this idea is merely about taking up more and more oxygen, nothing more, and nothing less. It actually doesn't matter whether it's good, bad or indifferent, or if people like it or hate it, what we know is that it won't be ignored - it will take up oxygen. We've already had the Women's AFL take up plenty of oxygen for the whole of February, expect them to start their season in January in the future. Expect the AFL to look for ways to take up oxygen from mid-Oct to mid-Nov. It doesn't have to be a big comp, it might be a four to six week tournament featuring recently retired players, players trying to get drafted, players returning from injury, etc. etc. For starters, they can book out their own stadium from mid-Oct to late Nov. On top of that, they might like to play some games out of AAMI, and maybe NIB and Coopers. Just achieving that much would be viewed as a huge success - attendances and ratings wouldn't even need to be big to be a success. That's effectively an additional four to six weeks of oxygen, dovetailing neatly into the draft in late November which already has massive media attention. Mission accomplished.
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+x+x+xIt's amazing seeing how non-existant League is down here in Adelaide. United seem to be lumped in with basketball also - go local team and such. But AFL is just everywhere. Good thing I dont read the newspaper, watch the news or listen to much radio so I dont have to listen to it but when I do jeez it's sickening This is why IMO we need the current licence model targeting specific markets for a while longer. AU provide exposure to the sport and that has an impact at all levels. I do agree. If Adelaide were to be relegated this season and Sydney United promoted (last NPL winners), Adelaide wouldn't seem to even care judging by the media. I'd imagine an NRL side would fare the same way as United. "You're not footy, but you're Adelaide so we'll give you a 10 minute bonehead interview on Triple M" They'd care but the following season they'd get next to no coverage. And yeah when we had the Rams that's how it was.
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+x+x1. Interesting the AFL see a bleak future in their game so need to adapt it to get interest. 2. Even football is not taking over china. Anyone who has traveled there much knows there are hardly any football pitches, and people generally have better things to do than chase pig skin around a paddock. They'd have more chance with this pipe dream of using a basketball court as you see fifty times more of them than football pitches in China. At best in the AFL they could make is 1mil p.a if your elite or otherwise settle for a couple hundred thousand p.a if your lucky, They drop that on wine and dinner with girls at KTV bars every month :)
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+x1. Interesting the AFL see a bleak future in their game so need to adapt it to get interest. 2. Even football is not taking over china. Anyone who has traveled there much knows there are hardly any football pitches, and people generally have better things to do than chase pig skin around a paddock. They'd have more chance with this pipe dream of using a basketball court as you see fifty times more of them than football pitches in China. Any kid in China that wants to make it as a sportsman would choose basketball or football any day of the week when the see the salaries being thrown around in their respective sports. At best in the AFL they could make is 1mil p.a if your elite or otherwise settle for a couple hundred thousand p.a if your lucky,
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1. Interesting the AFL see a bleak future in their game so need to adapt it to get interest.
2. Even football is not taking over china. Anyone who has traveled there much knows there are hardly any football pitches, and people generally have better things to do than chase pig skin around a paddock. They'd have more chance with this pipe dream of using a basketball court as you see fifty times more of them than football pitches in China.
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So they are moving from Cricket pitches to Football pitches.......fuck Victoria cracks me up.
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+x+xIt's amazing seeing how non-existant League is down here in Adelaide. United seem to be lumped in with basketball also - go local team and such. But AFL is just everywhere. Good thing I dont read the newspaper, watch the news or listen to much radio so I dont have to listen to it but when I do jeez it's sickening This is why IMO we need the current licence model targeting specific markets for a while longer. AU provide exposure to the sport and that has an impact at all levels. I do agree. If Adelaide were to be relegated this season and Sydney United promoted (last NPL winners), Adelaide wouldn't seem to even care judging by the media. I'd imagine an NRL side would fare the same way as United. "You're not footy, but you're Adelaide so we'll give you a 10 minute bonehead interview on Triple M"
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I get what the AFL is trying to do by making it a year round sport but there is one major flaw in this.
At local level in Victoria. Basically all leagues bar the VAFA are riddled with excessive player payments that have been blown out of proportion in the last 7 years.
Due to these levels of payments, local football is now becoming a business. If a player is signed to a contract and gets a couple of thousand cash a year, theirs an expected level of commitment for at least 9 months of the year.
And generally in the off season between October-December players like their time off and most pre seasons start in December these days anyway.
So while AFL 7's & 9's may be a decent product at a social level. It's not going to take the southern states by storm over the summer anyway. Just my 2c on it.
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+xIt's amazing seeing how non-existant League is down here in Adelaide. United seem to be lumped in with basketball also - go local team and such. But AFL is just everywhere. Good thing I dont read the newspaper, watch the news or listen to much radio so I dont have to listen to it but when I do jeez it's sickening This is why IMO we need the current licence model targeting specific markets for a while longer. AU provide exposure to the sport and that has an impact at all levels.
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+xI don't mind the sport itself but I absolutely loathe the way the sport's administration has essentially declared war on league, union and football in NSW and QLD. For that reason alone I will never pay a cent to attend a AFL game. Free ticket or fuck off. Fortunately, there's free admission to the AFL Women's.
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Swarth
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i am so thankful i live in western sydney
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P.a brenton speed commentating on the afl this arvo lol
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So this is pretty much just gaelic football?
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thejollyvic
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Try living in Victoria.
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It's amazing seeing how non-existant League is down here in Adelaide. United seem to be lumped in with basketball also - go local team and such.
But AFL is just everywhere. Good thing I dont read the newspaper, watch the news or listen to much radio so I dont have to listen to it but when I do jeez it's sickening
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I don't mind the sport itself but I absolutely loathe the way the sport's administration has essentially declared war on league, union and football in NSW and QLD. For that reason alone I will never pay a cent to attend a AFL game. Free ticket or fuck off.
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Living in Victoria I grew up with Aussie Rules (played and followed) as it was the only game played when I went to school. Fortunately the brainwashing by the media in this state hasn't swayed me over into becoming a follower. I don't read any articles, listen to radio or watch tv when anything Aussie Rules is on and for me it is as if the game doesn't exist. It is difficult doing that in Melbourne with all the constant bombardment but I'm glad to say I succeeded.
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