disgraceful turning on your own, davutovic is a good bloke.

For real :D

Anyone who actually believes that.. Ugh.

I think he was talking about sports articles mate. 

No I think it is their issue if they hate Greeks.

I don't hate anyone. 

Well then, so much for a tolerant society.

You don't care about the EFFNIKS then the EFFNIKS don't care about you. Fair enough? 

In addition, you have EFFNIK clubs in the A league right now. 

I've been following Soccer in Australia for a long time. And i can tell you this, that what is true today was true in the old NSL days. violence was largely overplayed by a media hellbent to destroy the game. This has not changed today as the media still have never relented on the ultimate goal.

I literally went to hundreds of NSL games. i only saw violence at 1 game. 

Been to some AFL games, and generally speaking always considered Soccer fans to be better behaved. 

No, davutovic was hyping it, was saying things like "time has come where we need to have a serious discussion about south Melbourne" "interest in the article in today's sun has exploded" etc , Michael zappone was being the one slightly negative. Which is weird because zappers is border line a fan and Davo is a knights fan.

And now Davutovic wants SMFC to fail because he is a Croat. You can't keep your story straight.

Not everyone comments on the articles, I didn't. In any case I'm just going by what Davo was saying, he was going on and on about it on sen the other night, Warnie meets Paris is probably technically not sport lol.

Although I admit Warnie stretches it for 'sports' now :) 

Well that wasn't in original stament but even then he's talking shite, just look at the comment numbers for starters:

"South Melbourne to submit bid for A-League licence and seek inclusion in competition from next season" : 55 Comments 

Compared to even today's

" ‘Party boy’ Warnie wants to meet Paris Hilton" : 70 comments 

Tsf, he said sports related article. His words not mine. The guy is s Cro so he would have no benefit helping SM lol.

What all due respect - what a load of absolute bullshit

It's not even in the top ten most viewed articles for the week:

Bickmore prompts on-air surprise
Islamic State’s Melbourne targets
‘Party boy’ Warnie wants to meet Paris
Cyclist fighting for life after hit-run
Teenage hammer thugs are freed
How Big W went horribly wrong
Stabbed 70 times, but murder charge dropped
Labor divided as Wong lurches Left
Popular wedding venue under threat
On my shows tonight - refugee crime and the great media meltdown

Does this mean that you no longer believe that Croatians hate Greeks?

Thats the point mate, no one cares about the old NSL effnik clubs anymore so SMFC's bid has no chance, just like the Cro's, Maco's and Italians. 

Well they should, and probably do.

no one cares anymore. 

point is this. there is a lot more bad behavior at current A league teams than there is at any of these clubs. in fact, some supporter groups like WSW think they are so hardcore. 

I am sure the old Croatian, Italian and Macedonian clubs would say exactly the same.

SMFC welcome knights.

most SMFC want an open and transparent competition, and SMFC have a lot to offer.

And even if knights get in and SMFC don't, SMFC will still be aiming for the A league and they will get there too. 

Every time I come around to SMFC being admitted to the HAL their fans open their mouths and remind me why it is a bad idea. I hope the Knights get accepted just to kill off their dream of returning to the top flight.

Great example is this idiot saying "you don't like SMFC because you are a Croat and Croatians don't like Greeks". Ten mi Utes later he is telling us that Greeks have no ethnic tensions with anyone. SMFC out, they don't even deserve to be in the NPL.

There are no tensions at SMFC. It is a well run club, and well organised and structured.

There is more trouble at A league clubs like WSW than there ever was at SMFC the last 10 years or so. 

Greeks don't have old tensions with Croats, or anyone else. Croats and anyone else will be welcomed to join SMFC whenever they like. as long as they behave themselves that is. SMFC has no time or tolerance for any fans who don't behave themselves because its the club's reputation at stake. 

The only pre-requisite is football and no one cares if you're an Aussie, Turk(there are many at SMFC), croat, serb, italian, or aboriginal. 

This is exactly why SMFC & other old NSL effniks will never get into the HAL, old tensions simmering away beneath the surface. 

When David davutovic goes on radio and says the SM bid article generated the 4th most piece of online traffic in the history of herald sun, I think that's pretty telling, if that doesn't give you a snapshot of the potential interest nothing will, the following day it was all over radio....the Geelong and Dandenong articles came in the following days and didn't get a peep of radio time. Very little social media interest as well.

SMFC will not only add 5 to 6 new fans, but it will be the catalyst that expands MVFC and MCFC.

Can you imagine the derbies, and the Football Gossip/rivalry. it will be intense.

At the very most, MVFC will lose about 2k members, but its upside will go beyond that well and truly. 

Sth Melbourne is such a pathetic option. Yes it is an easy option to expand quickly, but FFS surely the game is smart enough to realise it adds very little extra fans, publicity or attention. It is an easy option to make 150 idiots who don't feel like associating with either Victory or City happy. City are doing it tough enough to add to Victory's market in Melbourne and they have a lot of cash and big name players to back it up.

Firstly, decide if the game has the resolve and resources to expand. Expansion is never easy and it takes resources and patience. WSW is not the norm, no other team or region will respond that quickly.

Then the game needs to make a strategic decision as to the market it wishes to engage. All major population centers now have teams, with the two largest cities having two teams. There still remains large regional areas such as Canberra, Wollongong and Geelong that do not have a team. This is where the next stage of growth should come from. It won't grow average crowd figures, but it will grow the number and spread of interest in the domestic professional game. 

Sth Melbourne simply will not do that.

BTW, did you pay up the $100 or did you go back on your word? 

I reckon its the latter! 

And therefore, we need change because the junior system is critically important to the future. 

Yeah the idea of Geelong has a lot going for it.

- Regional communities get behind teams
- Geelong media is already very soccer friendly
- Decent soccer playing base
- Simmonds Stadium deal will make money
- Quite a few corporations support the area and its teams

But as of now, there is NO GEELONG BID! No one has come forward, no one is talking to the FFA as far as we know.

What is cancerous to football is people like you - a racist bigot and who would have thought.Frankly I'm not surprised!

SMFC does not prohibit or stand in the way of anyone joining the club or holding office.

You are against them because you are Croation, and most Croats hate Greeks. that's fine, but it is YOU who is the cancerous bigot who allows race to get in the way of such bids.

SMFC is a business. As a business, they do not limit their market.

And yes, their Academy is second to none in the country. They have all the infrastructure and are in a better position to be profitable than most clubs.  

Righto

I never said CCM are a failure let alone a disaster.

I hope CCM keep progressing at their own pace, and having them fail isn't going to be good for the A League.

People comparing SMFC to CCM and/or other teams is rather pointless and non constructive to me.

What is constructive is letting these teams play Football. if you increase the competition, then the standards will rise in the longer term, as well as interest, tv money, and diversity. 

The argument is that SMFC has the metrics and the pedigree to succeed. Each team is in competition with themselves first and foremost. 

What Aussie football fans want and what the ffa wants are 2 different things, our junior system would mean sweet F all to the ffa, they don't give a rats about that stuff.