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https://youtu.be/ce8H97Se6Gg

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JoffaTossa - 31 Dec 2016 5:26 AM

That presenter is pretty lame and his jokes are terrible. Not sure what point he was trying to make either ... struggled through 3 minutes but had to turn back from boredom.

In regards to the President-elect's position on climate change it will be interesting to see what the actual position is. Abbott similarly denied it during his election, then disbanded the climate council, cut funding to CSIRO and dumped the position of Minister of Science. I would hazard a guess Trump probably won't go to such extremes in the USA ...
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-05/2016-year-of-extreme-weather-bom-climate-report/8162366

summary: Fourth hottest year on record in Australia, and wetter than average.

I know in WA it seemed that we had a lot more fronts (storms) over the winter to spring period than usual. This was mainly due to the ENSO which had a major shift compared to recent history. This summer so far in WA has been pretty mild too (although the other side of Australia has had the heat) ... not complaining though after some really hot summers of late over here.
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China to spend $493 billion on green power by 2020

China will plough 2.5 trillion yuan ($493 billion) into renewable power generation by 2020, the country's energy agency says, as the world's largest energy market continues to shift away from dirty coal power towards cleaner fuels.

The investment will create over 13 million jobs in the sector, the National Energy Administration (NEA) said in a blueprint document that lays out its plan to develop the nation's energy sector during the five-year 2016 to 2020 period.

The NEA said installed renewable power capacity including wind, hydro, solar and nuclear power would contribute to about half of new electricity generation by 2020.

The agency did not disclose more details on where the funds — which equate to about $98 billion each year — would be spent.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-05/china-to-spend-$493-billion-on-renewable-fuel-by-2020/8164434

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Good for them. Well done. 


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Climate change: Fresh doubt over global warming 'pause'

A controversial study that found there has been no slowdown in global warming has been supported by new research.
Many researchers had accepted that the rate of global warming had slowed in the first 15 years of this century.
But new analysis in the journal Science Advances replicates findings that scientists have underestimated ocean temperatures over the past two decades.
With the revised data the apparent pause in temperature rises between 1998 and 2014 disappears.
The idea of a pause had gained support in recent years with even the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reporting in 2013 that the global surface temperature "has shown a much smaller increasing linear trend over the past 15 years than over the past 30 to 60 years".
But that consensus was brought into question by a number of studies, of which a report by the the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) published in Science last year was the most significant.
Researchers from Noaa suggested that the temperatures of the oceans were being consistently underestimated by the main global climate models.
The authors showed that the ocean buoys used to measure sea temperatures tend to report slightly cooler temperatures than the older ship-based systems.
Back in the 1990s, ship measurements made up the vast majority of the data, whereas now the more accurate and consistent buoys account for 85% of measurements.

When the researchers corrected the data to take this "cold bias" into account, they concluded that the oceans had warmed 0.12C per decade since 2000, nearly twice as fast as previous estimates of 0.07 degrees.
As a result, the authors said that the warming experienced in the first 15 years of the 21st Century was "virtually indistinguishable" from the rate of warming between 1950-99, a time generally acknowledged to have seen significant rates of warming from human emissions of CO2.
The study did not go down well with climate sceptics. Members of the US House of Representatives subpoenaed the author's emails which Noaa refused to hand over.
However, this new analysis supports the findings of the Noaa report. The scientists involved believe the problems in the original temperature estimates for the oceans came from attempting to mesh together data from ships and buoys.
"Only a small fraction of the ocean measurement data is being used by climate monitoring groups, and they are trying to smush together data from different instruments, which leads to a lot of judgement calls about how you weight one versus the other, and how you adjust for the transition from one to another," said Zeke Hausfather, the new paper's lead author.
Hausfather and colleagues decided to put together three independent data sets from satellites, buoys and robotic floats to find the true scale of ocean warming, so there was no mixing or matching of data.
"Our approach was to create three separate ocean temperature records from the three different instruments, and it turns out that all three agree really well with the new Noaa record," he said.
"The conclusion is that Noaa got it right, the scientists at Noaa were not cooking the books or manipulating the data in any way and that three independent sets of data back up their results."
The controversy that surrounded the original paper proved a strong motivation for attempting to replicate the findings says another author, Dr Kevin Cowtan from the University of York.
"We were initially sceptical of the Noaa result, because it showed faster warming than a previous updated record from the UK Met Office. So we set out to test it for ourselves, using different methods and different data. We now think Noaa got it right, and a new dataset from the Japan Meteorological Agency also agrees."
The new study is unlikely to quieten sceptics but the authors say their new work shows that the rate of warming in the last two decades is no different from the rate of warming since 1970 or from 1950.
As for attempts by politicians to subpoena emails in an attempt to suggest that scientists are committing fraud, the idea gets short shrift from the new paper's authors.
"If people disagree with things they should ask other scientists to look into it rather than demanding access to scientists' emails," said Zeke Hausfather.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38513740

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There's a 59 page thread already going here champ.

http://forum.insidesport.com.au/1927667/Climate-change-Fact-or-Fiction?PageIndex=59#bm2460172 



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Sorry 'champ' but this thread is for posting news relating to anthropogenic global warming, not for arguing that it's fiction.
That can be left to the fukcing luddites..

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I don't know much about this stuff, and i didn't read that last article fully but it was claiming that nothing has changed... i read that (in laymans terms) since the industrial revolution and temperature changes have at least a 100 year lag time, so we are roughly feel the affects of fossil fuels etc from 1917, and what we do now will have a far smaller influence than what we think due to this. 

I could be way off though. 
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2016 'hottest on record' in new sign of global warming

Last year was the hottest year on record by a wide margin, with temperatures creeping close to a ceiling set by almost 200 nations for limiting global warming, the European Union's Copernicus Climate Change Service has said.

The data are the first of the New Year to confirm many projections that 2016 will exceed 2015 as the warmest since reliable records began in the 19th century, the Copernicus organisation said in a report.

The Arctic was the region showing the sharpest rise in temperatures, while many other areas of the globe, including parts of Africa and Asia, also suffered unusual heat, it said.

A few parts of South America and Antarctica were cooler than normal.

Global surface temperatures in 2016 averaged 14.8 degrees Celsius or 1.3C higher than estimated before the Industrial Revolution ushered in wide use of fossil fuels, the EU body said.

In 2015, almost 200 nations agreed at a summit in Paris to limit global warming to "well below" 2C above pre-industrial times while pursuing efforts to hold the rise to 1.5C as part of a sweeping shift away from fossil fuels towards clean energy.
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For balance let's hear from News limited.  Has anyone here had a sting?
 
Dangerous Irukandji build-up around Fraser Island, Sunshine Coast

Surf lifesavers and jellyfish ­experts will descend on Fraser Island this weekend to confirm whether a mass migration of ­irukandji jellyfish — suspected of stinging 10 people at the popular tourist destination in the past fortnight — is moving south.
Surf life savers will run a special “irukandji drag net” through the waters on the western side of the Queensland island, while James Cook University expert Jamie Seymour — who discovered the species had arrived a decade ago — tries to see how large the local jellyfish population is.
At the same time, reptile experts said it was possible the warming waters in which irukandji thrive might also be attracting crocodiles southward, with an unconfirmed sighting on the Sunshine Coast this week sparking warnings from the state Environment Department.
Dr Seymour said he had no doubt the current spate of jellyfish stings on Fraser Island was a sign of things to come, pointing to a distinct movement southward of irukandji over 50 years.
“I’m scared about it because if these animals arrive on the Sunshine Coast or we get more and more of them around Fraser ­Island, what does the tourist industry do?” he said.“They have no recourse at this time other than to shut the beach. Just think of what that would do to Australian tourism.”
Dr Seymour said 200 to 300 people a year were hospitalised in Queensland by suspected ­irukandji stings. The venom can reduce the amount of blood pumped by the heart by as much as 95 per cent.
He said he found irukandji jellyfish off Fraser Island a decade ago, and tried to warn local tourism operators but was ­ignored.Local authorities are beginning to warn beachgoers to wear long-sleeve “rashies” and other protection in the water.
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So where to from here? When will individuals, governments and companies act? The importance and value in renewable energy sources and sustainable economy. 


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Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey won a major legal showdown against Exxon Mobil on Wednesday, when a judge ruled that the company must turn over 40 years of documents on climate change.

Suffolk Superior Court Judge Heidi E. Brieger denied the company an emergency motion or a protective order that would have blocked Healey’s demand for the company’s internal research on global warming.

The decision came on the same day Exxon Mobil’s former CEO Rex Tillerson was grilled by the Senate over his nomination to become President-elect Donald Trump’s secretary of state and refused to answer questions about Exxon’s understanding of climate change.

The ruling is a major victory for Healey, who, along with the attorney general of New York, pursued probes into Exxon Mobil after reports published in 2015 suggested the company had encouraged climate-change confusion for years after its own scientists established the risks.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/01/11/healey-wins-showdown-with-exxon-mobil/HwActch6RI8WQVKdlfJJ9I/story.html?event=event25

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@TheSelectFew "So where to from here? When will individuals, governments and companies act? The importance and value in renewable energy sources and sustainable economy. "

You support Donald Trump, a climate change denier, but blurt statements like this.
FMD, people like you are as dumb as dog shit. And what's worse you're ilk are breeding.

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JoffaTossa - 13 Jan 2017 5:59 AM
@TheSelectFew "So where to from here? When will individuals, governments and companies act? The importance and value in renewable energy sources and sustainable economy. "You support Donald Trump, a climate change denier, but blurt statements like this.FMD, people like you are as dumb as dog shit. And what's worse you're ilk are breeding.

Regressive leftards do always need to have their stereotypes in order.

Your signature is ironic enough.

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A regressive progressive? Onya numb nuts.

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JoffaTossa - 13 Jan 2017 2:38 PM
A regressive progressive? Onya numb nuts.

Stereotypical left wing ideology claims to be progressive however it's only when it suits them........

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Bloody progressives. Forcing conservatives to use their grey matter. Fcuk you, brain.

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JoffaTossa - 13 Jan 2017 6:00 PM
Bloody progressives. Forcing conservatives to use their grey matter. Fcuk you, brain.

It's funny how easy it is to pick you ricey. Anyone who doesn't fully support you must be a conservative.

Change the narrative bloke.

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The 'narrative' is supported by reality.
People just like to think it's a 'difference of worldview'.

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JoffaTossa - 14 Jan 2017 4:38 AM
The 'narrative' is supported by reality.People just like to think it's a 'difference of worldview'.

My greatest amusement with many anti-mining, climate warriors is their stereotypical complete lack of knowledge when it comes to producing the technology that will save the planet.

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My greatest amusement with many anti-mining, climate warriors is their stereotypical complete lack of knowledge when it comes to producing the technology that will save the planet.

The sadder part is cnuts like you who make broad generalisations inside an echo chamber to maintain the status quo.
You know what wilful ignorance is - surrounding yourself with like-minded people who pat you on the back, agree with you, so you can maintain your apathy

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BETHFC - 16 Jan 2017 4:38 PM
JoffaTossa - 14 Jan 2017 4:38 AM

My greatest amusement with many anti-mining, climate warriors is their stereotypical complete lack of knowledge when it comes to producing the technology that will save the planet.

I have no clue how to build a nuclear reactor by myself, so that means I don't have a right to an opinion on climate change.

Seems legit.

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BETHFC - 13 Jan 2017 7:11 PM
JoffaTossa - 13 Jan 2017 6:00 PM

It's funny how easy it is to pick you ricey. Anyone who doesn't fully support you must be a conservative.

Change the narrative bloke.

Ricey was an outspoken conservative, and absolutely a climate change denialist.

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paladisious - 16 Jan 2017 7:05 PM
BETHFC - 13 Jan 2017 7:11 PM

Ricey was an outspoken conservative, and absolutely a climate change denialist.

Its Murdoch Rags.

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Its Murdoch Rags.

Called it last week on this page here.  http://forum.insidesport.com.au/1309671/The-Australian-Politics-thread-Prime-Minister-Malcolm-Turnbull?PageIndex=653#bm2473133




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Its Murdoch Rags.

He's gone trrooppppooooooooooo

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World temperatures have hit a record high for the third year in a row in 2016, creeping closer to a ceiling set for global warming with extremes including unprecedented heat in India and ice melt in the Arctic, US government agencies say.

The data, supported by findings from other organisations, was issued two days before the inauguration of US President-elect Donald Trump, who questions whether climate change is caused by humans.

The average surface temperature over land and the oceans in 2016 was 14.84 degrees Celsius — 0.94C above the 20th-century average — according to the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-19/temperatures-hit-new-high-in-2016-for-third-year-in-row-us-data/8193046

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JoffaTossa - 16 Jan 2017 5:40 PM
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The sadder part is cnuts like you who make broad generalisations inside an echo chamber to maintain the status quo.
You know what wilful ignorance is - surrounding yourself with like-minded people who pat you on the back, agree with you, so you can maintain your apathy

Ridiculous post.

Some of the worst environmental activities in the world are required to make magnets to generate power in wind turbines...... This is a negative of the manufacturing process given the technology we have available to us.

People need to accept that going fully green comes at a cost. A lot of people think going green means no mining. It doesn't work like that. It's frustrating how strong some peoples opinions can be of things they have a very basic understanding of that is aided by propaganda.


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(Now supported by the UK Met Office)

Temperature data for 2016 shows it is likely to have edged ahead of 2015 as the world's warmest year.
Data from Nasa and the UK Met Office shows temperatures were about 0.07 degrees Celsius above the 2015 mark.
Although the Met Office increase was within the margin of error, Nasa says that 2016 was the third year in a row to break the record.
The El Niño weather phenomenon played a role, say scientists, but the main factor was human emissions of CO2.
The latest conclusions won't come as a much of a shock to observers, as the likely outcome was trailed heavily towards the end of last year.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38652746

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