Bit of coverage on Channel 7 in Adelaide: https://twitter.com/7NewsAdelaide/status/1310159772889395205

We use that for match analysis (it is f’kin brilliant). Not sure it’s broadcast quality but use it for half time and post match analysis and it would improve Fox Sports coverage immensely 

Just saw this ad. Thought it might be useful for broadcasting any second division
https://www.veo.co/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwzbv7BRDIARIsAM-A6-2ykj6-LyXqXwIQzZm3wPF3xVfYX3axCZ7gp73PT7r-2js7pyP347oaAqfoEALw_wcB

I wouldnt be surprised to see a independent bid with the backing of multiple clubs, unlike over east, none of our state clubs have ever been national, but I’ve always heard Bayswater’s names mentioned when talking about a NSD or 2nd perth team.

The problem I see is if a merger happened then that team got relegated as a separate entity. Then they would just abandon the idea and play as their clubs again. Instead of relegating the 2 original clubs.

Merger wasn’t mentioned but the guy spoke in a an unclear way.

oh god not another Italian club merger, does any of them merged Italian actually work out they always end up in a clusterfuck

They have contributed financially.

But the way one spoke is like they want another team in Perth for AL (or NSD).

Is there a chance these two clubs could merge? 

Hard to tell if they’re showing support or actually want to actually be part of the NSD

@Bayswater & Perth

If you take an existing NPL club, they would get roughly 1/10th of the support of what a Canberra-wide club would get. They're all either based in specific parts of the city (Gungahlin, Belconnen, Tuggeranong, etc.) or draw support from a particular ethnic community (Canberra Croatia, Canberra Olympic, Inter Monaro, etc.). A Canberra-wide club could realistically push for promotion to the A-League, an existing NPL club would likely be stuck at the bottom of the table. But sure, go ahead.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/community-news/eastern-reporter/perth-and-bayswater-city-throw-support-behind-national-soccer-second-division-to-run-under-a-league-c-1337365.amp

Football Queensland are investigating into the viability of a national second division

https://footballqueensland.com.au/2020/09/21/football-queensland-commence-a-national-second-division-consultation-in-queensland/

also interesting that they’re looking into doing conferences for the NPL

It all depends on the size of a club and the potential supporter base really. 

Franchises (businesses) aren't football clubs.
Football clubs (social centres) are what represent communities.
Communities produce players though their connection (love for) to the game.

I still haven't found something that expresses what football is better than the quote from Sir Terry in my signature.

Yeah, the franchise model is going Gand busters in the AL, why not roll it out in the NSD, what could go wrong?

It's precisely these sorts of views which act as an obstacle to getting a proper football pyramid.
NEWSFLASH
With a proper football pyramid, there is no such thing as teams representing regions, or teams being in a particular division simply because they come from a particular region.
In this example, we have a real club, not a franchise, not a bunch of rich blokes wanting to buy their way in, but a real club, with an ambition to play at the highest level it can.
That's the kind of attitude which drives a proper football pyramid!
The very, very last thing we want are more rich blokes wanting to buy their way in.
Earn the spot out on the pitch.

Yes, the FFA is also asking show us the money as they don’t have any. Simple :)

QPL was formed a couple of years back to increase the number of semi-pro teams in the state, it is in effect NPLQ2. 

I guess what I was proposing amounted to turning the QPL (NPL 2) into two regional conferences of SEQ and North+Central QLD, which would help cut down on travel costs while also ensuring regional representation, with a play-off for promotion to NPL 1. Then have the local comps in each zone play-off for promotion to the two conferences of the second tier (FNQ, NQ, Whitsunday, CQ and WB play off for NCQ, and Brisbane, SC, GC and Toowoomba play off for SEQ).

The two divisions would not be very even in terms of level of play (SEQ would likely be substantially better than NCQ), so probably most years it would be the SEQ side being promoted, and you may only have a couple of NCQ teams in NPL 1. But it at least provides a merit-based pathway for the regional clubs outside of the SEQ core to progress to the top tier (and perhaps even an NSD in future).

A problem right now is that there is nowhere for clubs like Cairns FC and NQ FC to step down to, since there is a direct drop from statewide to local leagues (and a club that is supposed to represent the entire region can't really play in that region's local league). So instead they just go bust and the whole region misses out on NPL football.

It's great that they're ambitious but unless it gets an A-League expansion spot Canberra should be represented in an NSD by a club that embraces the whole region, not an existing NPL based in the northern extremities of the city. If it does get an A-League spot then Canberra probably shouldn't have any team in the NSD, at least initially (NPL clubs can always push for promotion in later years). 

Our be loved  game NEEDS a  2ND divisoin &NEEDS it it NOW The silence from FFA is defeaning ! !  yes it will take money i know maybe alot in fact now well then Show Us the  Money !

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Gungahlin United joins push for national second division football league

...It is something for our club to aspire to, whether it is in two years’ time, five years’ time or 10 years’ time. It is a case of really working with the Gungahlin community to help us establish a pathway for any player who comes and plays,” he told Region Media.“It is important for the ACT as a whole because when you start to look at this national second division it gives a realistic opportunity for clubs who are classified in a regional area like the ACT to aspire to be involved in a higher standard.“It gives clubs the opportunity to be the best that they can and develop players as high as they can.”Currently, each state runs its own Premier League and 30 clubs from every Australian state and the ACT have signed up to the proposal.

Despite GUFC holding its own in the ACT’s Premier League, smashing the Cooma Tigers 5-0 in the final to take out the 2019 Championship, Neil says the proposal would see the club test itself against the best in the country.

“I think it will be challenging, but over time, and with better football, and a bit of infrastructure, the quality of ACT teams will improve,” he said.

“I do not think we will improve overnight but it will certainly happen down the track because you are creating more opportunities for more players and coaches to be involved.”

https://the-riotact.com/gungahlin-united-joins-push-for-national-second-division-football-league/404977

Obviously you want to keep it as simple as possible but QPL is NPL2. 

I think these regional leagues should be viewed as NPL3. So them getting a direct chance to come into NPL every year isn’t fair imo. 

Otherwise you could disband QPL and just have every regional league as NPL2. Football Qld won’t do that.

Queensland is a cautionary tale. You want to have a structure in place in which regional teams (particularly ones at a distance from metropolitan centres) are not disadvantaged either financially or in sporting terms. And ideally you would have places like Townsville, Cairns, Rockhampton, Bundaberg, etc. (and elsewhere: Bendigo, Ballarat, Albury-Wodonga, Coffs Harbour, Bunbury and so on) represented at NPL level, with the chance for promotion to higher tiers. Some things could help this:
1) centralise travel costs at NPL level
2) set up an FFA administered regional football fund to finance infrastructure projects (and also help regional clubs if they fall into financial trouble)
3) adopt a regional pyramid system, so Queensland could have something like:
Tier 1: QLD NPL 1
Tier 2: North+Central Queensland / South-East Queensland (play-off for promotion)
Tier 3: Regional zones (FNQ, NQ, Whitsunday, CQ, Wide Bay / Brisbane, Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast, Toowoomba)

Also, does the Queensland NPL incorporate youth football? Does this mean that Mackay, for instance, has to send all their U-13 to First Grade teams to SEQ every second week? Maybe one way to lower costs is to keep First Grade and U/20s on a statewide basis, and regionalise the youth system.

I’m a bit anti the FFA Cup when NQ FNQ get a spot.

I don’t think a Cairns team winning the local league should get placed in NPL. QPL is too expensive imo for the quality. Perhaps something like - if a team wins a regional league 2 or 3 years in a row they can have a playoff to enter the NPL. Also if you won yr 1,2,3 and fail to qualify you get another chance if you win 4 because you won 2,3,4. If the clubs wants to play in a qualification series.

QLD tells the tale of what challenges an NSD and pro/rel will bring. 

Good to see Qld and the clubs are supportive.

Qld probably has the trickiest system to create or reform due to geography. It’s a question of eg does a NQ or FNQ team get promoted into NPL or Premier League and the criteria that comes along with that.

SFC ii are 6th and finish 11th last season.
I wouldn’t say they should be a chance if places are granted on merit. 

It will I’ll be a complicated process to select teams initially imo. Historic results should be taken into account but at the same time Qld hasn’t always had promotion so how far do you look back. What about teams that have been historically good but have had a low 2 years, should they miss out because of the timing of implementation.

Best result would be if a formula could be agreed upon fairly directly where the 2021 NPL seasons are used a qualification year or contribute to a agreed points system.

Don’t think any AL teams youth teams would be eligible from the first season if so.

“Through consultation with Queensland clubs, it is imperative that we explore what is economically sustainable and determine appropriate national models that lead to an understanding of the most competitive and optimal pathway for all of Queensland’s footballers,” he said.

“FQ’s competition reform consultations have been designed to improve our understanding of how we can build a football pyramid and unlock the opportunity for Queensland’s aspirational clubs by delivering connected competitions for the 317 clubs and 180,000 participants for which FQ is responsible.

“Member federations have the responsibility for promotion and relegation into and out of leagues based within each state alongside the governance of several other critical aspects of competition that the success of any potential NSD consideration is contingent upon, one that could ultimately be endorsed by the FFA and connected within the federated system.

“As the Member federation, FQ will assemble a number of NSD models, consider their viability, benefits and the impacts each has on FQ’s ability to deliver connected competitions across the state’s own football pyramid for the benefit of Queensland clubs in a national context.

“Feeding directly into any proposed model will be FQ’s deep insights into the financial and commercial sophistication and the levels of governance and administrative competency of every NPL club through existing compliance audits and the recently undertaken 81 criteria technical assessment by FQ’s Club Development Unit into the technical football outcomes achieved by clubs.

“FQ has already received feedback from thousands of stakeholders during the consultation process, club summits and surveys since launching the Future of Football 2020+ reform journey in May and there is clear appetite for promotion and relegation within a thriving, sustainable and connected competitive environment in Queensland.

“FQ’s strategic plan shows a commitment to driving the game towards that vision and we look forward to engaging all Queensland clubs, participants and football community members to ensure everyone can have their say, just as we have done right throughout the Future of Football 2020+ initiative,” Cavallucci conclude”

https://www.soccerscene.com.au/football-queensland-to-assess-impact-of-national-second-division/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

cheers waz

FQ on NSD:

https://www.soccerscene.com.au/football-queensland-to-assess-impact-of-national-second-division/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

https://t.co/fSfl46Boiu?amp=1