Their are a number of reasons.
1) The NSD is no guarantee to happen any time soon.
2) The NYL is useless as is.
3) There is talk of a minimum of 18 member squads augmented by scholarship players.  
4) This should not be in any way part of a NSD.

Whether it is national is another question. It probably should be tailored to how you set it up depending on the State

For instance, even with current border closures SFS, WSW, Macarthur, Jets, CCM and Canberra could play a 4 round home and away to go alongside the A-League. Being a hybrid NYL / A League Reserve would give more games for young players with hardened pros to learn from and help them develop and also allow players coming back from injury to regain fitness.

And yes it should be funded by the independent A-League

Yep, the Eerste Divisie example will be enough to seal the deal.
Anyway, you're assuming the FFA wants P&R.
I think it's pretty clear they will give the clubs whatever they want.

Fully agree. I just don’t see the point.

If the A League clubs want to have heir reserves/youth In a national tier, maybe they should just set up another tier at a NTD out of their own pockets.

The a league clubs may bemoan the lack of fan support they currently receive, but if they push to dominate places in the NSD with their youth teams they will risk losing more support for their disingenuous behaviour. They have a youth league comp that they choose to run over only 8 weeks to save money. If they reveal a desire to turn the NSD into their youth league with a few token places for state league clubs, it can be for no other reason than to keep the state league teams down. I'd have no issue if they'd earn their place via promotion. At the minute, SFC is the only youth team with any chance of doing that.

And yet there is no international example of a second division with pro-rel and a large number of youth/reserve teams in it. Spain and Germany have a cap of the third division for B teams, and in the Netherlands only 4 out of 20 youth sides are in the Eerste Divisie.

There is of course the USL in the US which has a roughly 50/50 split between B teams and independent clubs, but that precisely has no pro-rel (and no prospect of ever having it, given the nature of American sport).

And this is why I'm advising people to be ready to be disappointed.
The A-League clubs have already been lobbying to be able to play their reserves teams in any future NSD.
The FFA have publicly stated that they are researching 2nd divisions far and wide (because we're going to get a model we don't like, and they are going to point to this or that country as justification for using the model).
I mean seriously, why would anyone need to research NSD models?

Agree!!

They're too separate things, and should be kept as such. The reserve grade league is for A-League clubs to develop young players in-house, the second division is for independent clubs to push themselves into contention for promotion to the top flight (and shouldn't have any restrictions on players short of limits on foreigners and perhaps an FFP system). A loan system can also be used for players transitioning from youth league to the first team, by spending a season in the NSD on loan to a club during this phase.

In short, no A-League reserve teams in the second division!

I read it and I also listened to the interview with Nick Galatas

I still see the Reserve League as a hybrid conference system as an extension to the NYL with A League squaddies also included for fitness reasons - not as a NSD.

Galatas rather than complaining that the FFA was taking too long was happy with the progress that he Nogarotto had made and was very supportive of James Johnson in spite of Lucy trying to verbal him otherwise.

He said.  “What’s happened is, there’s been pent-up frustration, pent-up demand. We represent these clubs and these clubs are telling us that they want to get on with the National Second Division,”  But that was in response to the progress over three and a half years - not the last nine months.  He was not expressing his concerns with the current FFA admin - he was bemoaning the fact that their was no appreciation (to him) from his own members of the progress made in recent times under current (9 months - Covid ridden) admin.  

In that TWG article, Zelic quotes Arnie:

When Craig Foster and I interviewed James Johnson in May this year, he said it was at least “two to three years away” but national team boss Graham Arnold later conceded to us that “we can’t wait that long.” 
Arnold has been publicly agitating for the creation of a national reserve grade for some time now

I recommend all football fans read the article carefully, it summarises well where things are at.

In conclusion:
1.  don't hold your breath about the NSD, and
2.  when it eventually comes in, it won't be the kind of NSD you've been dreaming about.

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Young African-Australian talent needed to take South Melbourne FC to another level

South Melbourne FC Youth Director Peter Kokotis and Tanzanian-born Coach Emanuel Saakai are looking for financial backing to create bursaries for promising young African Australians

South Melbourne FC Youth Director Peter Kokotis and Tanzanian-born Coach Emanuel Saakai are looking for financial backing to create bursaries for promising young African AustraliansSouth Melbourne FC Youth Director Peter Kokotis is passionate about integrating “new Australians into NPL football.”“In my work in football across Asia I have met unbelievable African talent, many now close friends, South Melbourne will evolve to another level with young African Australians who have a deep football sense,” he told Neos Kosmos.”

https://neoskosmos.com/en/176020/young-african-australian-talent-needed-to-take-south-melbourne-fc-to-another-level/

“OPINION Why does a second division continue to be delayed?”

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/why-does-a-second-division-continue-to-be-delayed

I disagree with her on the AL retiree line. If clubs want to pay players so be it. Younger players would benefit from having ex AL in the squads as mentors and pushing for starting positions.

Also, when it gets set up it won’t be the same as AL where it is a bloc of players who change clubs. It will be new clubs and players entering the league each season as others disappear.

Quotas are not a good idea. 

I mean it it should be the same rule for all the NPL divisions in the case they are connected. 

I agree with the first two. With the third I'm expecting a hybrid reserves/NYL to run this season. Probably still conference based but longer running. If the A-League are expecting scholarship players to be making up some of their squad they have to be getting game time-somewhere.    

A NSD is a different beast I hope.

1.  Zero chance of a Darwin team being involved (and probably no Perth team as well)
2.  Canberra bid currently trying to buy its way into the A-League, no indication that they are interested in the NSD
3. We need to ready ourselves for the strong probability that the clubs will get their way, and that the "NSD" will be treated as a reserves comp.  Meaning that if we get to 14 teams, itself unlikely, at least half those teams will be A-League reserves teams.

So you’re not taking in to account (a) whether teams can afford  this and (b) whether they have any support 👍

Teams to make up a 14 team NSD,

Tasmania United, (Hobart) new stadium to be built.
Wollongong Wolves, WIN Stadium
Gold Coast, Cbus Stadium 
FNQ Fury, Townsville Stadium.
Northern Territory FC, Darwin football stadium.
Canberra United, New stadium to be built
Perth Team
Adelaide City 
Brisbane Strikers  
3x Melbourne Teams
3x Sydney Teams

I think your looking for problems where there aren’t any. 

Have listened to latest podcast put up on AAFC Twitter. Not the SBS one though.

I liked his answer to the ethnic question. We need to respect where the clubs have come from and how they were formed. 

Its a strange issue. We have clubs that are 70 years old that were formed in Australia and have only ever played in Australia. What’s the timeline here? Is it you have to be here eg 200 years or 6 generations or something?
At the same time we have an ethnic team from a different country in our national league. It’s madness.

Secondly there were no questions regarding state feds and therefor their support or nonsupport. Personally I find it hard to imagine any state fed would be against it but who knows? Perhaps the prospect of losing their stronger clubs but I don’t think that is a good enough reason. If FFA can sanction a league will the state feds have any say in the matter? Considering they are a powerful voting bloc I would like to hear what their role is in all of this.

I would especially like to hear from Queensland. 

I think it is tongue in cheek.

AL has old NSL teams in it. They are AL teams

AAFC has old NSL teams in it. They are NPL teams.

“Football 2.0”
”We are football too”
”Australia’s true national league”

You can interpret anything as being bitter.

They are just having some fun. Nothing more.

Obviously this is being driven by existing NPL clubs, because they stepped into the breach since the FFA hasn't been driving things forward, but I hope they do leave room in the structure for some new-build clubs. Depending on A-League expansion there are openings for new second division clubs in places like Hobart, Canberra, Townsville, Dandenong, Geelong and Penrith, which currently don't have any NPL clubs capable of making the step up. They could join in with the more established NPL clubs in the major cities.

But when the AAFC pull stunts like the "Football as we know it" motto, it does make it sound like the whole project is motivated by ex-NSL bitterness.

https://twitter.com/SouthHobartFC/status/1307243910306037760

Sure 

But my point is directed that if the state feds want it sanctioned and want to be connected via pro rel then it would be tough politically for FFA to not sanction it.

It seems highly unlikely that AAFC want a free standing league in any form that isn’t connected to state NPLs

Also there is a rule that states NPL clubs can play in another NPL competition if their home FA agrees and the one they will enter does also. In this case it would be a new NPL that is one step above.

Vic and NSW already seem onboard.

The FFA and State Feds can’t block a competition being formed - at least not without good reason. So FFA “approval” is not required although the competition must be sanctioned by the FFA

This is a very positive sign for Australian football.

35 teams that are willing to take the next step to present a solution that is agreed upon. 

I don't necessarily believe all the 35 would have the ambition to be in a NSD, no matter which form, from the first season. But we can hopefully believe that most have the want to become professional in the coming years.

Plus teams not in the 35 I’m sure want to be involved or will once somethings is up and running. And new teams that will be formed eg Team 11.

The professional footprint could massively increase if FFA release the shackles and sanction the proposal.

I don’t believe it is a decision FFA can make on its own. If all the state feds are behind it the FFA wouldn’t be wise to reject such a venture.

Hopefully any FFA involvement would be to ensure a League is set up not only to benefit the 35 teams involved in the next step but the entire NPL system. Via defined rules for minimum standards and promotion and relegation.
 

Sunshine Coast made it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=en1uwIzI3SE

Sunshine Coast stadium looked good for the storm

Altona Magic, Canberra Croatia and Sunshine Coast joining the Championship group, bringing the total to 33 clubs.

https://twitter.com/AAFClubs/status/1306869548033826818

Good to see the coverage for the idea, but the devil is in the detail.

Likely better not to get peoples hopes up until something more concrete is in place as a proposal. Still quite a way to go. 

https://twitter.com/nbnnews/status/1306148316913180672