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grazorblade - 2 Apr 2018 1:51 AM
have to say i want to see arzani irrespective of whether he is better at this stage simply because he is so entertaining to watch. Would love to see rogic mooy arzani and luongo all taking on players



The trouble is BVM has no long term interest in Australia.

A coach like Arnold would be more likely to select him to beat Iran for his services.
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inala brah - 31 Mar 2018 11:23 AM

Thomas Deng was very impressive against WSW at RB, another option? 

He could be.

I think Risdon was  better than expected against Colombia. His weakness is his defending as opposed to his attacking play though.

Bailey Wright was poor at RB against long ball Norway, when I thought their style would've played to his strengths.
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inala brah - 31 Mar 2018 11:23 AM
Boca J - 31 Mar 2018 1:19 AM

i forgot about atkinson when thinking about the team.  he should be given a look in because the competition for the spot is thin. risdon ffs?  

Thomas Deng was very impressive against WSW at RB, another option? 
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have to say i want to see arzani irrespective of whether he is better at this stage simply because he is so entertaining to watch. Would love to see rogic mooy arzani and luongo all taking on players
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No Irvine?
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My 23 man squad for Russia 2018 FIFA World Cup

Mathew Ryan
Brad Jones
Danny Vukovic

Trent Sainsbury
Matthew Spiranovic
Rhys Williams
Aziz Behich
Mathew Jurman
Milos Degenek
Alex Gersbach

Mile Jedinak
Mark Milligan
Aaron Mooy
Massimo Luongo
Tomas Rogic
Dimitri Petratos
Daniel Arzani
Stefan Mauk
Ajdin Hrustic

Tim Cahill
Tomi Juric
Andrew Nabbout
Mathew Leckie
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Boca J - 31 Mar 2018 1:19 AM
The team of pace
(some decent crosses)
(& forward pressure)

-------------------------(Ryan/Vukovic)------------------------
------------------Jurman------------Sainsbury----------------
Atkinson--------------------------------------------Gersbach
---------------Irvine---------------------Luongo---------------
Arzani------------------Petratos----------------------Behich
-----------------------------Juric-----------------------------------

Bench
Rogic
Mooy
Nabbout
Borrello
Dougall
Susjnar



i forgot about atkinson when thinking about the team.  he should be given a look in because the competition for the spot is thin. risdon ffs?  

 




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alvn1 - 30 Mar 2018 10:11 PM
I thought it was more or less established that you cant have rogic and mooy on at the same time 

Ange had them playing as twin 10's or 8's so they got in each others way.

France had the same issue with Zidane and Djorkaeff who were both n10's at Juve and Inter.
Jacquet made Zidane his playmaker with freedom to drop deep and start things and Djorkaeff placed further forward closer to Guivarc'h in a more Del Piero type role. 
Neither got in each others way as they had two very different tasks. Mooy and Rogic in midfield up till now have had the same task and end up occupying the same space in a way Lampard and Gerard did.
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Luongo moving up into more of an attacking role.

-----------------------------Ryan-----------------------------
---------------Sainsbury------Williams-------------------
----Atkinson---------------------------------Meredith----
-----------------Irvine-----------Dougall-------------------
----Arzani------Rogic--------Luongo------Petratos----
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The team of pace
(some decent crosses)
(& forward pressure)

-------------------------(Ryan/Vukovic)------------------------
------------------Jurman------------Sainsbury----------------
Atkinson--------------------------------------------Gersbach
---------------Irvine---------------------Luongo---------------
Arzani------------------Petratos----------------------Behich
-----------------------------Juric-----------------------------------

Bench
Rogic
Mooy
Nabbout
Borrello
Dougall
Susjnar



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chondro - 30 Mar 2018 11:12 PM
Anges style with the new players... 
-----------------------------Ryan-----------------------------
---------Williams------Sainsbury------Susnajr-----------
Leckie----------Irvine----------Luongo--------Gersbach
----------Arzani---------Rogic---------Petratos----------- 

Interesting side.......could rewrite football philosophy or it could bomb....stepping into theunkown



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Anges style with the new players...

------------------------------Ryan-----------------------------
---------Williams------Sainsbury------Susnajr-----------
Leckie----------Irvine----------Luongo--------Gersbach
----------Arzani---------Rogic---------Petratos-----------
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I'd like to see this...

------------------------------Ryan---------------------------------
----------------Sainsbury-----------Williams-------------------
Atkinson-----------------------------------------------Meredith
----------------------Irvine-----------Luongo---------------------
----Leckie------------Rogic----------------------Petratos-----
-------------------------------------Arzani------------------------

Gives arzani a more central role which decreases his supposed defensive liability.
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SpongeBobFC - 30 Mar 2018 9:52 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing something like this in one of the friendlies
After Juric went off we really struggled for an outlet to relieve pressure. Cahill offers nothing in general play and if we don't have 60% posession
like against Honduras and Syria it's pointless playing him. Our general play looks better with Juric when we have 50% or less
Get Rogic out of the midfield battle and up where he can do the most damage and not burn himself out. Playing more inside may allow Aziz to run the channel.
I'd like to see Mass and Jackson play like they did against Chile. Similar to O'neill and Brilliante at Syd. Own the centre with energy and speed and allow Mooy to pull the strings. Both can cover for Aziz if he's caugh forward
the 3 in the middle can move around pretty fluidly so if Irvine or Mass goes for a sortie Mooy will just slip in to keep the shape.
RB still and issue.
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Pretty much mum 11 and formation with Behich and Luongo doubt brilliant cover on the left if Rogic goes central or far up. 
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chondro - 30 Mar 2018 9:50 PM
It's not the squad chosen...Just my opinion on what the squad should look like.

You've stated IMO above the squad. Those who can read will understand.

I think the real squad will be pretty close. If Rukavytsya has good club form he'll sneak in. 
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I thought it was more or less established that you cant have rogic and mooy on at the same time 
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Rogic is better on the other side of the field. Cutting inside onto his left foot.
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Our advantage is we have lots of versatile players. Milligan, Jedinak and Williams double as midfielders and defenders. Jedinak as a defender is an absolute last resort but the squad should have good balance.

Looks like Amini, Jeggo and Hrustic are completely off the radar. Shame about Ikon but let him get established and maybe he'll make it to the UAE. 
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I wouldn't mind seeing something like this in one of the friendlies
After Juric went off we really struggled for an outlet to relieve pressure. Cahill offers nothing in general play and if we don't have 60% posession
like against Honduras and Syria it's pointless playing him. Our general play looks better with Juric when we have 50% or less
Get Rogic out of the midfield battle and up where he can do the most damage and not burn himself out. Playing more inside may allow Aziz to run the channel.
I'd like to see Mass and Jackson play like they did against Chile. Similar to O'neill and Brilliante at Syd. Own the centre with energy and speed and allow Mooy to pull the strings. Both can cover for Aziz if he's caugh forward
the 3 in the middle can move around pretty fluidly so if Irvine or Mass goes for a sortie Mooy will just slip in to keep the shape.
RB still and issue.
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It's not the squad chosen...
Just my opinion on what the squad should look like.
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Mabil hasn't played at all lately. Wright will be in the extended squad but I want to try and get Spiranovic or Wilkinson in. 
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Redcarded - 30 Mar 2018 9:42 PM
Good to see Atkinson, Borello, Dougal and Arzani in the extended squad. Haven't heard much about Mabil for a bit, so would be interesting to see if he gets some time in the friendlies. 

That isn't the extended squad
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Good to see Atkinson, Borello, Dougal and Arzani in the extended squad. Haven't heard much about Mabil for a bit, so would be interesting to see if he gets some time in the friendlies. 
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even though spira was in league 2 china and now clubless, He's still a better cb than wright.
Only got cut because he went for the money over the club.
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No Bailey Wright but you’ve included Spira??
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at least he can check if they're hungry now
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Fox sport annalysts said there would be a 35 player camp for May before the friendlies with Czech and Hungary.

IMO

GK (4)
Ryan
Jones
Vukovic
Langerak

CB (5)
Sainsbury
Williams
Susnajr
Jurman
Spiranovic

RB (3)
Degenek
Risdon
Atkinson

LB (4)
Behich
Meredith
Elder
Gersbach

M (10)
Jedinak
Milligan
Brillante
Luongo
Dougall
Irvine
Mooy
Rogic
De Silva
Petratos

W (6)
Leckie
Kruse
Nabbout
Arzani
Mabil
Borello

S (3)
Juric
Cahill
Maclaren

Bundoora B
Bundoora B
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highkick05 - 29 Mar 2018 10:33 PM
I'm really starting to think that perhaps Borello would be better on the wing for Rogic, even Petratos , instead of Leckie.

I just sincerely believe it would produce more goal mouth opportunities. Provide better passing combinations, perhaps lanes and options.

Huge issue with Kruse and Leckie is the linking in with Rogic.

The front combinations are nothing like Leckie and Kruse watching Celtic w/ Rogic.

It is much much DIFFerent/better watching Celtic, forwards are always passing around the box. Not just lumping it in. 

like this: 

---------------Jedinak--------Luongo---------------
-------Borello-------------------------Nabbout-----
------------------------Rogic--------------------------

---------------------------Juric------------------------

In the Columbia game we had 7 shots w/ only 1 on target. We need to see something different happenning in front.

i'd like to see borello on the opposite side of leckie.  our 2 biggest bully wingers would terrorise even the best fullbacks.

 




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I'm really starting to think that perhaps Borello would be better on the wing for Rogic, even Petratos , instead of Leckie.

I just sincerely believe it would produce more goal mouth opportunities. Provide better passing combinations, perhaps lanes and options.

Huge issue with Kruse and Leckie is the linking in with Rogic.

The front combinations are nothing like Leckie and Kruse watching Celtic w/ Rogic.

It is much much DIFFerent/better watching Celtic, forwards are always passing around the box. Not just lumping it in. 

like this: 

---------------Jedinak--------Luongo---------------
-------Borello-------------------------Nabbout-----
------------------------Rogic--------------------------

---------------------------Juric------------------------

In the Columbia game we had 7 shots w/ only 1 on target. We need to see something different happenning in front.


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Nabbout has drive and strength. Definitely tough for Kruse to get back in front after Nabbout got two starts. 
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