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+xIt's always tough to make predictions.Irvine may have potential as he would have somewhat of a leadership role and responsibility at his present club being a record signing. There would perhaps be someone in between.I'm still not that keen on Sainsbury, who has been named earlier, and hope a better player come through in his position. I feel we've got a group of introverts. None of them seem to be taking initiative and haven't realised their newbie tag has expired. Leckie, Luongo, Mooy, Sainsbury and Smith aren't our youth anymore.
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It's always tough to make predictions.
Irvine may have potential as he would have somewhat of a leadership role and responsibility at his present club being a record signing. There would perhaps be someone in between.
I'm still not that keen on Sainsbury, who has been named earlier, and hope a better player come through in his position.
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Rogic and Mooy don't seem to be captain or talker types.
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Paul Wade backs Tom Rogic as next Socceroos captain ahead of crucial World Cup clashSocceroos legend Paul Wade says Tom Rogic can save Australia's World Cup campaign on Thursday and named the Canberran an international captain-in-waiting. The Socceroos host Saudi Arabia in a must-win clash at the Adelaide Oval, with coach Ange Postecoglou expected to start Rogic after a stellar European campaign with Scottish powerhouse Celtic.  Paul Wade names Tom Rogic as next Socceroos captain ahead of crucial their World Cup clash. Photo: Simon SchluterWade tipped Rogic and Manchester City-loaned midfielder Aaron Mooy to prove the difference in Adelaide with the duo full of confidence after a Scottish Cup crown and English Premier League promotion respectively.  Tom Rogic in action for Australia against Jordan in a World Cup qualifier. Photo: Cameron Spencer"Tom is on fire and coming in with just as much confidence as Aaron Mooy, to do the things that those two have done this season - wow," Wade said. "Tom brings absolute class, he's comfortable under pressure and in the heat of battle we all play at 100 miles an hour, but if you want to take the steam out of the game and add some class, he's your man. "He handles pressure well, anyone who can handle the pressure of the Scottish Premier League I'm sure can handle Saudi Arabia in Adelaide with everyone supporting you. "Tom is just as cool as a cucumber and when you add Aaron Mooy to the midfield I have no doubt in the world we can dictate the game. "If those two don't produce man of the match performances it will only be because they've been marked out of the game by very good players." Wade made 84 appearances for Australia as one of the Socceroos longest serving captains and named 24-year-old Rogic a certainty to one day pull on the skipper's arm band. "Absolutely, no doubt. He'll have to put in a few more years yet because it's all right being a cool cat but you've got to have the experience," Wade said. "You've got to know pressure situations and not only deal with them yourself but have an influence on the team and only experience can provide that." The third-placed Socceroos are vying for the all-important second spot on the Asian ladder to secure qualification for Russia 2018. Australia can still qualify from third but face a much tougher task where they'll need to beat an Asian and an American side in a home-and-away series. "I'd like to go in through the front door but of course if we had to I still wouldn't mind still sneaking in the back," Wade said. "If we go that way it's a good money spinner through advertising but we'd probably end up playing America and that would be a contest, let me tell you." Wade said the Socceroos will carry the weight of a nation on Thursday night but remains confident Australia will feature in Russia next year. "We have high expectations, everybody might say let's not expect miracles but the truth is we do. If I'm the player I would consider this win important - but not the end of the world," Wade said. "If players go in thinking 'it's all over if we lose' we're all in trouble because they won't play Ange's style and as supporters we don't need the stress of going through the back door. "With the quality we've got, two guys in the midfield who are absolutely on fire and you throw in our other talent, and I think we'll come out on top. "I wouldn't put my house and car on it but I've got my dollar on it."
Paul Wade backs Tom Rogic as next Socceroos captain ahead of crucial World Cup clash
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. I went to bed furious that night, I thought it was pain-painstakingly obvious persisting with 3atb on that goat paddock when they were tearing up our wings was not the way to go when we're in front with 20 minutes. Everyone could see the goal coming, but apparently not Ange. The issue was not so much three at the back. It was more that it was that the wingbacks weren't told to get right back. Ange seemed to thing that because there were three at the back, the wingbacks should act as out and out wingers (it seemed, basically). When those wingbacks should have operated in the same way they would have done with two central defenders; i.e. go forward and attack but get back. The only difference is there'd be three central defenders, rather than two. So it would be more balanced. But they weren't to be left isolated. Do you have any actual proof of that claim? I have none to dispute it but lets at least try and deal with the facts we have before we start tearing down the national team manager. Anyone who has ever coached at a decent level will tell you, no matter how well you plan or how well you think you've articulated your game plan, at certain times players either don't get it, do their own thing or just have poor games. It happens to every coach. All right I concede it's rough of me to say that in such definitive terms. That's unfair on Ange. Perhaps he did instruct them accordingly and they didn't execute the plans or just had poor games. I do suspect that they weren't instructed to get back, based on what we watched. If not that, then they deviated a long way from the plan and/or are very unfit. The truth of the matter is somewhere between those two things; Ange not telling them to drop back enough and Ange telling them but their not obeying. Whichever, that's very worrying. I don't disagree with you in that i think ange may very well have told them to stay up and press as that tends to be his style. My argument was merely that neither of us can know what for certain.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. I went to bed furious that night, I thought it was pain-painstakingly obvious persisting with 3atb on that goat paddock when they were tearing up our wings was not the way to go when we're in front with 20 minutes. Everyone could see the goal coming, but apparently not Ange. The issue was not so much three at the back. It was more that it was that the wingbacks weren't told to get right back. Ange seemed to thing that because there were three at the back, the wingbacks should act as out and out wingers (it seemed, basically). When those wingbacks should have operated in the same way they would have done with two central defenders; i.e. go forward and attack but get back. The only difference is there'd be three central defenders, rather than two. So it would be more balanced. But they weren't to be left isolated. Do you have any actual proof of that claim? I have none to dispute it but lets at least try and deal with the facts we have before we start tearing down the national team manager. Anyone who has ever coached at a decent level will tell you, no matter how well you plan or how well you think you've articulated your game plan, at certain times players either don't get it, do their own thing or just have poor games. It happens to every coach. The proof was simply watching it! Also on the infographic that fox displayed it was a 3-2-4-1. And thats certainly how they played Kruse and leckie were high up. In the 2nd match Smith and leckie came back much more to be more of a 3-4-2-1. I would still prefer us to play as a 3-4-1-2 with troisi playing with Rogic up top. Ryan; Sains, jedi , Milligan; leckie, mooy, luongo, smith; irvine; Troisi, Rogic What a team this would be!! No, watching it did not at all prove what ange asked of the players. Without being in the training sessions or pre match talk, neither you, nor i or any foxsports pundit can know what was said. I don't disagree that the players did indeed tend to stay a little higher than what i would consider normal in that formation, but that proves nothing. Too many people get caught up just in what 'formation' a team is playing. Theoretically a tactically astute coach and his subsequent team will have variable formations depending on how the game is being played, the way the opposition line up etc. Particularly during the periods of transition. On of the main things that will change your formation IMO is how your team chooses to defend straight after they turn the ball over. While you may line up as 3241 initially, when applying a high press trying to force the turnover that quickly becomes 343 or 325. The opposite of that is the more pragmatic approach which i tend to take in my coaching which is getting behind the ball, regaining our defensive shape and cut out the passing lanes. In that case a 3241 would quickly become 541
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. I went to bed furious that night, I thought it was pain-painstakingly obvious persisting with 3atb on that goat paddock when they were tearing up our wings was not the way to go when we're in front with 20 minutes. Everyone could see the goal coming, but apparently not Ange. The issue was not so much three at the back. It was more that it was that the wingbacks weren't told to get right back. Ange seemed to thing that because there were three at the back, the wingbacks should act as out and out wingers (it seemed, basically). When those wingbacks should have operated in the same way they would have done with two central defenders; i.e. go forward and attack but get back. The only difference is there'd be three central defenders, rather than two. So it would be more balanced. But they weren't to be left isolated. Do you have any actual proof of that claim? I have none to dispute it but lets at least try and deal with the facts we have before we start tearing down the national team manager. Anyone who has ever coached at a decent level will tell you, no matter how well you plan or how well you think you've articulated your game plan, at certain times players either don't get it, do their own thing or just have poor games. It happens to every coach. All right I concede it's rough of me to say that in such definitive terms. That's unfair on Ange. Perhaps he did instruct them accordingly and they didn't execute the plans or just had poor games. I do suspect that they weren't instructed to get back, based on what we watched. If not that, then they deviated a long way from the plan and/or are very unfit. The truth of the matter is somewhere between those two things; Ange not telling them to drop back enough and Ange telling them but their not obeying. Whichever, that's very worrying.
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Iraq host Japan and UAE go to Thailand 5 days after our game. Provided we win, I'd love to see Japan drop points. An attacking Japan is probably best for us and they'd need something in the last match too.
Purely hypothetical but a 3:0 victory for us and a 1:0 loss for Japan will see all tiebreakers even meaning a points system according to bookings will be calculated.
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+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. I have been saying this for a number of years now. He will eventually move into a CB role at some stage of his career. I believe he may have covered a few games in that position while he was at Villa and he was very effective. He rarely loses an aerial duel and is still an effective tackler, seems a natural to me. If we can get our back 3 organised as a unit with Italian defensive discipline, our speed shouldn't be much of a concern. The Italian back 3 are all slow but their stance is massive and their shadows are so scary the cut out passing lanes. Our back 3 is still a very hectic, staggered line.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. I went to bed furious that night, I thought it was pain-painstakingly obvious persisting with 3atb on that goat paddock when they were tearing up our wings was not the way to go when we're in front with 20 minutes. Everyone could see the goal coming, but apparently not Ange. The issue was not so much three at the back. It was more that it was that the wingbacks weren't told to get right back. Ange seemed to thing that because there were three at the back, the wingbacks should act as out and out wingers (it seemed, basically). When those wingbacks should have operated in the same way they would have done with two central defenders; i.e. go forward and attack but get back. The only difference is there'd be three central defenders, rather than two. So it would be more balanced. But they weren't to be left isolated. Do you have any actual proof of that claim? I have none to dispute it but lets at least try and deal with the facts we have before we start tearing down the national team manager. Anyone who has ever coached at a decent level will tell you, no matter how well you plan or how well you think you've articulated your game plan, at certain times players either don't get it, do their own thing or just have poor games. It happens to every coach. The proof was simply watching it! Also on the infographic that fox displayed it was a 3-2-4-1. And thats certainly how they played Kruse and leckie were high up. In the 2nd match Smith and leckie came back much more to be more of a 3-4-2-1. I would still prefer us to play as a 3-4-1-2 with troisi playing with Rogic up top. Ryan; Sains, jedi , Milligan; leckie, mooy, luongo, smith; irvine; Troisi, Rogic What a team this would be!!
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+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. I have been saying this for a number of years now. He will eventually move into a CB role at some stage of his career. I believe he may have covered a few games in that position while he was at Villa and he was very effective. He rarely loses an aerial duel and is still an effective tackler, seems a natural to me.
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+x+xcitizenship can't be far away..  Not sure how legit this is, but what a boon that would be for the Roos. Fornaroli is probably the most technically talented striker to ever play in the A-League. Berisha has been consistent for longer, but Bruno is arguably more talented on the ball. Needs to be in the country for 5 years to be picked - been here since august 2015 thus he's still 3 years away by which time he'll be 32 :( Dont think this will ever happen
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+x+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. That was definitely irritating, made even worse after the match or sometimes during this period where he said he'd rather lose than shutting up shop. He is a great manager but his arrogance will be the downfall of this team. I think most on the forum would support this - you can be pragmatic to a degree without being being pragmatic to the extent of the Pim and Holger days. Holger wasn't that pragmatic though least not tactically albeit was conservative with his player selections
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+x+x+xcitizenship can't be far away.. Not sure how legit this is, but what a boon that would be for the Roos. Fornaroli is probably the most technically talented striker to ever play in the A-League. Berisha has been consistent for longer, but Bruno is arguably more talented on the ball. Although knowing Ange he would probably not pick Fornaroli in favour of Matt McKay or some other useless has-been. 
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+x+xcitizenship can't be far away.. Not sure how legit this is, but what a boon that would be for the Roos. Fornaroli is probably the most technically talented striker to ever play in the A-League. Berisha has been consistent for longer, but Bruno is arguably more talented on the ball. Although knowing Ange he would probably not pick Fornaroli in favour of Matt McKay or some other useless has-been.
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+xcitizenship can't be far away.. Not sure how legit this is, but what a boon that would be for the Roos. Fornaroli is probably the most technically talented striker to ever play in the A-League. Berisha has been consistent for longer, but Bruno is arguably more talented on the ball.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. I went to bed furious that night, I thought it was pain-painstakingly obvious persisting with 3atb on that goat paddock when they were tearing up our wings was not the way to go when we're in front with 20 minutes. Everyone could see the goal coming, but apparently not Ange. The issue was not so much three at the back. It was more that it was that the wingbacks weren't told to get right back. Ange seemed to thing that because there were three at the back, the wingbacks should act as out and out wingers (it seemed, basically). When those wingbacks should have operated in the same way they would have done with two central defenders; i.e. go forward and attack but get back. The only difference is there'd be three central defenders, rather than two. So it would be more balanced. But they weren't to be left isolated. Do you have any actual proof of that claim? I have none to dispute it but lets at least try and deal with the facts we have before we start tearing down the national team manager. Anyone who has ever coached at a decent level will tell you, no matter how well you plan or how well you think you've articulated your game plan, at certain times players either don't get it, do their own thing or just have poor games. It happens to every coach.
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Robbie Kruse makes the squad... again.
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+xcitizenship can't be far away.. Please yes, we could earn more penalties and capitalise on the chances that Juric and co seem to miss so often !!!!!
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Pretty sure the 23 is being announced at 8am today?
Apparently Grant will be cut. Jeggo has an injury so he's likely out. Milligan is suspended. McGree. D McGowan, Smith and Kruse to miss out hopefully.
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+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. That was definitely irritating, made even worse after the match or sometimes during this period where he said he'd rather lose than shutting up shop. He is a great manager but his arrogance will be the downfall of this team. I think most on the forum would support this - you can be pragmatic to a degree without being being pragmatic to the extent of the Pim and Holger days.
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+xLast I heard Aston Villa want him to drop back as a defender next season anyway. He'll be great as a defender organising the backline. If we defeat the Saudis with Jedi playing in midfield then I would play him at CB in the first 2 Confeds Cup games then rest him in the 3rd to see how our other combination/s compare.
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Last I heard Aston Villa want him to drop back as a defender next season anyway. He'll be great as a defender organising the backline.
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I was referring to the confed cup in regards to a Russia. Unfortunately all our opponents are fast so Jedinak mustn't be too high in a defender role.
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citizenship can't be far away..
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+x+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. I went to bed furious that night, I thought it was pain-painstakingly obvious persisting with 3atb on that goat paddock when they were tearing up our wings was not the way to go when we're in front with 20 minutes. Everyone could see the goal coming, but apparently not Ange. The issue was not so much three at the back. It was more that it was that the wingbacks weren't told to get right back. Ange seemed to thing that because there were three at the back, the wingbacks should act as out and out wingers (it seemed, basically). When those wingbacks should have operated in the same way they would have done with two central defenders; i.e. go forward and attack but get back. The only difference is there'd be three central defenders, rather than two. So it would be more balanced. But they weren't to be left isolated.
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I wonder once the Saudi game is over if Ange may not start with Jedinak,Milligan and Cahill in the Confeds Cup. It would provide a competitive forum to give some others extended game time to see what they can do
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+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. Jeggo injured again after being named in an extended squad, I have memories of Chris Herd.
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+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together.
It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi.
Ange changed to 3 at the back for the crucial Iraq game, so why wouldn't he be willing to experiment against the Saudis? If Jedinak is in our starting 11, I would rather he play at CB. Firstly, because its the best way to fit all of Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic in the starting 11. And secondly, we're not as strong at the back compared to the midfield (he could even play a bit of a sweepers type role slightly ahead of the other 2 CB's).
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+x+x+x+xJedinak needs to drop into the defence in Russia. Our midfield is in top form and I'd like to see Amini, Luongo, Irvine, Mooy and Rogic play together. It'd be too risky to experiment against Saudi. Apparently Jeggo has picked up and injury. If we get to Russia. ATM We have been goals up in three different away games - Saudi, Iraq and Thailand. Ange could've closed the game down by playing a 4-3-2-1 late in the game. He chose not to. In all three scenarios, the opposition scored late goals to equalise. We could be 7 points clear of where we are now. I say this because Cahill's goal against the UAE should've been called a foul by him pushing a player out of position before he scored, which would've resulted in a draw. Agree Jedi is a good CB option. He has played some games for Palace in this position. I don't like playing what ifs, we are where we deserve to be currently. Against Iraq we got lucky they missed some golden chances, likewise Thailand where we were incredibly lucky to get a draw and we actually equalised against them after falling 2-1 behind. What ifs they may be, but Decentric's point needs to be made (again) - can't think of many other international-level coaches that would not try and protect a slender lead in the last 20 minutes of a crucial away WC qualifier. It's just ludicrous, and the the Iraq schmozzle really exposed Ange's tactical naivety, and frankly just gave me the 5hits. Even Brazil, Argentina, Germany would not continue to blindly attack when leading 1-0 in an away WC qualifier - and we are definitely not any of those nations. You can't coach a team at international level to just play at one tempo with one game plan, surely that's obvious? Ange rant over. That was definitely irritating, made even worse after the match or sometimes during this period where he said he'd rather lose than shutting up shop. He is a great manager but his arrogance will be the downfall of this team.
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