11 games in a row undefeated with a dud generation.

That doesn't exactly sound worth firing him for.
Especially being australias most successful coach ever with silverware.

ANGE OUT. Where was Grant's cap?

He probably is happy with it.
Under Ange, has Australia won any games against an opposition ranked higher than us in 90mins?
I'm not saying sack Ange... but don't go and pretend everything is under control when we struggled against Thailand

Hypocrite.

Lol, you do know I am unhappy with the FFA as well don't you?
There are already plenty of threads to talk about administration, just talk about the thread for gods sake.

holger is possibly the worst coach to step on australian soil

If Pim, Holger or Arnie were at the helm we may have 1 or 2 more points, but people would be even more disheartened.

Moopy all sad about fact-y thing-ies. Poor lil moopy.

Some people forget FFA "took the credit" for hiring ange (for peanuts) after we'd fallen over with holger, and really had no better option. Hiddink was laughably bandied. Lol. They conveniently twisted the narrative into "we are going native with a coach- aus coaches are good enough" but we all know the truth is they didnt have the money then for a world class intl coach, and they certainly dont now. Its called reality, sorry if reality bores you, Moops i ate my i ate my own poops. Watch them spin the same narrative, with arnie or poppa, when ange leaves or becomes the fall guy (for a country with subpar player development). 

(And yes the current administration (who incidentally publicly embarrased/strong-armed ange into submission/retraction over a constructive criticism he'd made in the press) are illegitimate. You might be quite happy to turn a blind eye to gross injustice and corruption, but ill keep saying it until im blue in the face).

Are you happy with the results against Thailand and Iraq away?

Except ange hasnt lost..draws away from home are still results.

We'd certainly be better off playing under a manager that didn't put his philosophy above results. 

He does have a limited group of players to select from. Few quality players there. But he flat-out refuses th change his tactics even when the opposition, conditions or pitch would suggest that another approach may be more beneficial. 

How many would have been disappointed if we started playing a bit more long ball on that paddock of a pitch, cut down the errors in midifeld, and subsequently won the game? Theses are WCQ's! Now is not the time to be pedantic about performance. 

RESULTS ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER IN THE LAST 4 GAMES. 

Most of you won't admit it, but we all know we'd be killing it in Asia with Arnie at the helm.

Russia's gonna be fun

He just pointed out a cost factor in  a "Sack Ange" discussion

But now you've bought up the subject, FFA are all    - oops, I just ate my own poop...s

Why do you have an incessant need to turn every thread into a FFA bashing, it get's a bit boring mate.

Played at home in front of home crowds.

We haven't been beaten away from home yet and have won all our games at home.

Yup, he only has the same resources he had to pick from when we won the Asian cup

This! Ange probably has one of the worst gen of Socceroos in a very long time and he can do so much.

Hopefully we can still qualify for the World Cup with the home games coming up.

The Socceroos would of been better served playing a 442 diamond formation. Kruse Leckie out wide , jedinak holding, mooy CAM and have juric and Cahill up fronT. We would of been parked in there half all game, instead we lost possession out wide and were brunt on the counter.

We need to get some confidence back, we need that winning feeling but not grind out a win but dominate all game. The game against the UAE we need to win by atleast a couple goals.

The big problem for Ange and Australia,is that possession based attacking football is old news.The most successful teams aren't playing that way.
Strong defence and counterattack os the winning way at the moment.
In the HAL teams like Brisbane,WSW and AU are struggling and all have similar weaknesses to the Socceroos.The all look like scoring ,but rarely do and when they score their weak defences always crumble.

..and if it was world cup quality I would think he'd play a back four.

My patience is growing thin with Ange.

Ange-ball was never going to work on that cow paddock.  Possession football was not going to work.

Iraq were pressing all game knowing that balls would bobble and we would give up possession.

Just praying that we play better at home and smash the other teams, get our mojo back and nick a point in Japan.  That should be enough for 2nd.

If we drop any points at home, we can kiss direct qualification good-bye.

Ange won't be sacked but it is time to really start putting the blowtorch on him. you can argue about the cattle til the cows come home, but you still have to question why he continues to change the formation. he needs to choose one and stick with it (or choose one and keep a second up his sleeve as a backup plan).

I really lost a lot of confidence in him with his subs - Smith who hasn't played in ages and Cahill who slows up things in the last third so much.

A team with a World Cup quality front line would've scored 3-4 against us.

I think it takes some real balls to play 3 at the back when you don't really have the quality to do it....were not chelsea... in saying that. Kruse last night was very very poor when he did track back he really didn't do enough and their left sided attack was causing us really problems. 

I think the formation can definately work, it has to be Smith and Leckie as the wide players, then fit Rogic in there somewhere and replace Wright for Sains... also Bailey I thought was pretty decent defensively you could see all game that playing out from the back he was seriously struggling. 

If Ange went with a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 diamond we would have probably got the same result, complaints would be flying in complaining that Ange didn't change nothing and stuck to the same old plan.

I'd argue you need even more highly technical (and athletic) footballers to play 4-3-3 the way Ange wants them to play it.

Imo, they abused this formation by having the wingbacks act more like wingers. They should have acted like the aggressive fullbacks in Ange's 4-3-3.

Either we need a (basically) flat back four or we need three central defenders with the wingbacks acting dropping back a long way. That's the only way they'll be competent enough to handle the space.

He just needs to realise we aren't that good, and he should use appropriate tactics to suit that fact. Play four-four-fooking-two next time Ange, or sit back and hang onto a lead for once.

Sack Ange for having one of the worst Socceroo sides to hit the park since the late 70's.