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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI have a theory why Ange has picked Goodwin, ruka. He's going to play his traditional 5-4-1( or however you want to put it) with a bit of a twist. I think he will deploy a style similar to Chelsea, 5-2-3. The five at the back will be the 3 CB's plus the 2 wing backs. Then he will play two holding midfielders in the middle. Then he will play a front three with two wide guys instead of two narrow no 10's if you like. It will still allow lecks and smith to be the WB and Goodwin and kruse the wingers. So my side looks like this. Ryan Milligan Sainsbury JurmanLeckie Smith Luongo MooyKruse Juric GoodwinThoughts? would like an excuse to get leckie forward. Could you explain more about the chelsea system? before our lack of fullbacks and goal scoring wingers required a voodoo formation without either really now we have goal scoring wingers and no fullbacks (except gersbach when fit) it would be nice to have a formation that voids the need for traditional fullbacks but has wingers Does chelsea's system achieve this? The wingbacks in the Chelsea system which would actually benefit us is they are purely engines who just run up and down the pitch. But further up the pitch they also have inside forwards like Hazard who look to get behind the defence and are a constant goal threat, that'd perfectly suit someone like Leckie. However there is no way Ange would ever utilise a system which by nature doesn't control the match, it is a typical Italian formation where they soak up the pressure and kill you on the counter attack. That's rather what I've been driving at. Or 4-2-3-1 and fairly flat back four. But what you describe, I think, best plays to Australia's current strengths and minimises risks from our weaknesses. What irritates me is that too often we play a style of football which I think does the exact opposite. To be fair i don't think we actually have a good enough holding mid and box to box midfielder for the Chelsea formation either, Jedinak isn't good enough on the ball to start a counter attack although he would protect the defence and Mooy would be next to useless in the system as well. defensively our holding mids are in formidable form for their clubs luogno generates 6 turnovers a game and mooy 5. A good player will get 4 turnovers a game so they are doing well however they both are slow over the 5m which means defensively we have a tactical weakness (which got exploited at the confeds) Luongo would be a good box to box for it but i see Mooy struggling majorly, there is a major difference in winning the ball in a team which presses high compared to a team which is camped in their half and have far more defensive duties. But ultimately we'd weaken where we are strongest at. those were club stats not the NT. Sorry for the ambiguity
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+xI have been here since Monday and have been surprised how moderate and not sticky the weather feels. It's been bucketing down in the middle of the night which makes the morning seem cool. Then it's stayed cloudy during the day which has stopped it feeling too hot. I am staying where there is a sea breeze which the stadium will not have and tomorrow is forecast to be 2 degrees hotter than today (31 compared to 29). Rain is forecast tomorrow morning but not tomorrow afternoon or evening. The late kickoff, 8:30 local time, will mean most of the heat of the day will be gone. Melaka is a very nice comfortable medium size town. Absolutely un-intimidating atmosphere, we lucked out to get this as the neutral venue. I arrived a Week ago and I was shocked, to be honest I was expecting it to be a lot like Thailand, dirty, sticky, smelly but its quite nice, I also saw the F1 which was nice, waited for about an hour to meet Dan Riccardo and he was a top bloke, met Mark Webber too.. What a handsome lad!
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Still don't feel like we're going to comfortably win this, guess that's what Ange has done to the confidence in the NT as of late. 2-2 draw. -PB
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+xDoes anyone know what settings I need to tweak to get Youtubes to show up? All I see is a blank white page where there should be videos... What browser have you got? Is it up to date?
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+x+xI have been here since Monday and have been surprised how moderate and not sticky the weather feels. It's been bucketing down in the middle of the night which makes the morning seem cool. Then it's stayed cloudy during the day which has stopped it feeling too hot. I am staying where there is a sea breeze which the stadium will not have and tomorrow is forecast to be 2 degrees hotter than today (31 compared to 29). Rain is forecast tomorrow morning but not tomorrow afternoon or evening. The late kickoff, 8:30 local time, will mean most of the heat of the day will be gone. Melaka is a very nice comfortable medium size town. Absolutely un-intimidating atmosphere, we lucked out to get this as the neutral venue. I arrived a Week ago and I was shocked, to be honest I was expecting it to be a lot like Thailand, dirty, sticky, smelly but its quite nice, I also saw the F1 which was nice, waited for about an hour to meet Dan Riccardo and he was a top bloke, met Mark Webber too.. What a handsome lad! Yup. He's on my wife's "I'd hit that" list. :angry:
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Personally if I was picking the side from the squad selected I would go with
Ryan
Milligan - Sainsbury - Jurman - Goodwin
Mooy - Loungo
Cahill
Leckie - Juric - Kruse.
Don't rate Degenek at all, a liability, Wright is suspended, so Jurman is worth the risk.
Milligan can be a defensive RB.
Kruse to cut instead a lot with Goodwin to play as an overlapping full back. Instruct Mooy and Luongo that they must be aware they may need to cover LB.
We seem to play better when Cahill plays so have him instead of Rogic.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI have a theory why Ange has picked Goodwin, ruka. He's going to play his traditional 5-4-1( or however you want to put it) with a bit of a twist. I think he will deploy a style similar to Chelsea, 5-2-3. The five at the back will be the 3 CB's plus the 2 wing backs. Then he will play two holding midfielders in the middle. Then he will play a front three with two wide guys instead of two narrow no 10's if you like. It will still allow lecks and smith to be the WB and Goodwin and kruse the wingers. So my side looks like this. Ryan Milligan Sainsbury JurmanLeckie Smith Luongo MooyKruse Juric GoodwinThoughts? would like an excuse to get leckie forward. Could you explain more about the chelsea system? before our lack of fullbacks and goal scoring wingers required a voodoo formation without either really now we have goal scoring wingers and no fullbacks (except gersbach when fit) it would be nice to have a formation that voids the need for traditional fullbacks but has wingers Does chelsea's system achieve this? The wingbacks in the Chelsea system which would actually benefit us is they are purely engines who just run up and down the pitch. But further up the pitch they also have inside forwards like Hazard who look to get behind the defence and are a constant goal threat, that'd perfectly suit someone like Leckie. However there is no way Ange would ever utilise a system which by nature doesn't control the match, it is a typical Italian formation where they soak up the pressure and kill you on the counter attack. That's rather what I've been driving at. Or 4-2-3-1 and fairly flat back four. But what you describe, I think, best plays to Australia's current strengths and minimises risks from our weaknesses. What irritates me is that too often we play a style of football which I think does the exact opposite. To be fair i don't think we actually have a good enough holding mid and box to box midfielder for the Chelsea formation either, Jedinak isn't good enough on the ball to start a counter attack although he would protect the defence and Mooy would be next to useless in the system as well. defensively our holding mids are in formidable form for their clubs luogno generates 6 turnovers a game and mooy 5. A good player will get 4 turnovers a game so they are doing well however they both are slow over the 5m which means defensively we have a tactical weakness (which got exploited at the confeds) Luongo would be a good box to box for it but i see Mooy struggling majorly, there is a major difference in winning the ball in a team which presses high compared to a team which is camped in their half and have far more defensive duties. But ultimately we'd weaken where we are strongest at. The fuck you on about? Have you seen huddersfield play? Have u see how much ground Mooy covers? How much pressing wagner expects from his team? Sometimes reading this forum is hilarious..
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI have a theory why Ange has picked Goodwin, ruka. He's going to play his traditional 5-4-1( or however you want to put it) with a bit of a twist. I think he will deploy a style similar to Chelsea, 5-2-3. The five at the back will be the 3 CB's plus the 2 wing backs. Then he will play two holding midfielders in the middle. Then he will play a front three with two wide guys instead of two narrow no 10's if you like. It will still allow lecks and smith to be the WB and Goodwin and kruse the wingers. So my side looks like this. Ryan Milligan Sainsbury JurmanLeckie Smith Luongo MooyKruse Juric GoodwinThoughts? would like an excuse to get leckie forward. Could you explain more about the chelsea system? before our lack of fullbacks and goal scoring wingers required a voodoo formation without either really now we have goal scoring wingers and no fullbacks (except gersbach when fit) it would be nice to have a formation that voids the need for traditional fullbacks but has wingers Does chelsea's system achieve this? The wingbacks in the Chelsea system which would actually benefit us is they are purely engines who just run up and down the pitch. But further up the pitch they also have inside forwards like Hazard who look to get behind the defence and are a constant goal threat, that'd perfectly suit someone like Leckie. However there is no way Ange would ever utilise a system which by nature doesn't control the match, it is a typical Italian formation where they soak up the pressure and kill you on the counter attack. That's rather what I've been driving at. Or 4-2-3-1 and fairly flat back four. But what you describe, I think, best plays to Australia's current strengths and minimises risks from our weaknesses. What irritates me is that too often we play a style of football which I think does the exact opposite. To be fair i don't think we actually have a good enough holding mid and box to box midfielder for the Chelsea formation either, Jedinak isn't good enough on the ball to start a counter attack although he would protect the defence and Mooy would be next to useless in the system as well. defensively our holding mids are in formidable form for their clubs luogno generates 6 turnovers a game and mooy 5. A good player will get 4 turnovers a game so they are doing well however they both are slow over the 5m which means defensively we have a tactical weakness (which got exploited at the confeds) Luongo would be a good box to box for it but i see Mooy struggling majorly, there is a major difference in winning the ball in a team which presses high compared to a team which is camped in their half and have far more defensive duties. But ultimately we'd weaken where we are strongest at. The fuck you on about? Have you seen huddersfield play? Have u see how much ground Mooy covers? How much pressing wagner expects from his team? Sometimes reading this forum is hilarious.. That Mooy wouldn't be as effective as a defensive midfielder in Chelsea's system, quite simple to understand really.
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I think we might go with Ryan Degenek-Sainsbury-Jurman Leckie-Milligan-Mooy-Behich Kruse-Rogic Juric
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI have a theory why Ange has picked Goodwin, ruka. He's going to play his traditional 5-4-1( or however you want to put it) with a bit of a twist. I think he will deploy a style similar to Chelsea, 5-2-3. The five at the back will be the 3 CB's plus the 2 wing backs. Then he will play two holding midfielders in the middle. Then he will play a front three with two wide guys instead of two narrow no 10's if you like. It will still allow lecks and smith to be the WB and Goodwin and kruse the wingers. So my side looks like this. Ryan Milligan Sainsbury JurmanLeckie Smith Luongo MooyKruse Juric GoodwinThoughts? would like an excuse to get leckie forward. Could you explain more about the chelsea system? before our lack of fullbacks and goal scoring wingers required a voodoo formation without either really now we have goal scoring wingers and no fullbacks (except gersbach when fit) it would be nice to have a formation that voids the need for traditional fullbacks but has wingers Does chelsea's system achieve this? The wingbacks in the Chelsea system which would actually benefit us is they are purely engines who just run up and down the pitch. But further up the pitch they also have inside forwards like Hazard who look to get behind the defence and are a constant goal threat, that'd perfectly suit someone like Leckie. However there is no way Ange would ever utilise a system which by nature doesn't control the match, it is a typical Italian formation where they soak up the pressure and kill you on the counter attack. That's rather what I've been driving at. Or 4-2-3-1 and fairly flat back four. But what you describe, I think, best plays to Australia's current strengths and minimises risks from our weaknesses. What irritates me is that too often we play a style of football which I think does the exact opposite. To be fair i don't think we actually have a good enough holding mid and box to box midfielder for the Chelsea formation either, Jedinak isn't good enough on the ball to start a counter attack although he would protect the defence and Mooy would be next to useless in the system as well. defensively our holding mids are in formidable form for their clubs luogno generates 6 turnovers a game and mooy 5. A good player will get 4 turnovers a game so they are doing well however they both are slow over the 5m which means defensively we have a tactical weakness (which got exploited at the confeds) Luongo would be a good box to box for it but i see Mooy struggling majorly, there is a major difference in winning the ball in a team which presses high compared to a team which is camped in their half and have far more defensive duties. But ultimately we'd weaken where we are strongest at. The fuck you on about? Have you seen huddersfield play? Have u see how much ground Mooy covers? How much pressing wagner expects from his team? Sometimes reading this forum is hilarious.. That Mooy wouldn't be as effective as a defensive midfielder in Chelsea's system, quite simple to understand really. Lol so a defensive mid now? Not box to box? Make ur mind up..
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI have a theory why Ange has picked Goodwin, ruka. He's going to play his traditional 5-4-1( or however you want to put it) with a bit of a twist. I think he will deploy a style similar to Chelsea, 5-2-3. The five at the back will be the 3 CB's plus the 2 wing backs. Then he will play two holding midfielders in the middle. Then he will play a front three with two wide guys instead of two narrow no 10's if you like. It will still allow lecks and smith to be the WB and Goodwin and kruse the wingers. So my side looks like this. Ryan Milligan Sainsbury JurmanLeckie Smith Luongo MooyKruse Juric GoodwinThoughts? would like an excuse to get leckie forward. Could you explain more about the chelsea system? before our lack of fullbacks and goal scoring wingers required a voodoo formation without either really now we have goal scoring wingers and no fullbacks (except gersbach when fit) it would be nice to have a formation that voids the need for traditional fullbacks but has wingers Does chelsea's system achieve this? The wingbacks in the Chelsea system which would actually benefit us is they are purely engines who just run up and down the pitch. But further up the pitch they also have inside forwards like Hazard who look to get behind the defence and are a constant goal threat, that'd perfectly suit someone like Leckie. However there is no way Ange would ever utilise a system which by nature doesn't control the match, it is a typical Italian formation where they soak up the pressure and kill you on the counter attack. That's rather what I've been driving at. Or 4-2-3-1 and fairly flat back four. But what you describe, I think, best plays to Australia's current strengths and minimises risks from our weaknesses. What irritates me is that too often we play a style of football which I think does the exact opposite. To be fair i don't think we actually have a good enough holding mid and box to box midfielder for the Chelsea formation either, Jedinak isn't good enough on the ball to start a counter attack although he would protect the defence and Mooy would be next to useless in the system as well. defensively our holding mids are in formidable form for their clubs luogno generates 6 turnovers a game and mooy 5. A good player will get 4 turnovers a game so they are doing well however they both are slow over the 5m which means defensively we have a tactical weakness (which got exploited at the confeds) Luongo would be a good box to box for it but i see Mooy struggling majorly, there is a major difference in winning the ball in a team which presses high compared to a team which is camped in their half and have far more defensive duties. But ultimately we'd weaken where we are strongest at. The fuck you on about? Have you seen huddersfield play? Have u see how much ground Mooy covers? How much pressing wagner expects from his team? Sometimes reading this forum is hilarious.. What are YOU on about? Have you seen them play? Have you seen the NT play? Mooy is seriously overrated defensively. I mean he's pretty good, but nothing special at all. In fact his influence in that position is insanely overrated especially by huddersfield fans and for the NT he's gone from being a match winner almost every game to being a waste of space since changing positions. I'd much rather Milligan, with Mooy probably on par with Luongo. Mooy is just wasted there. He is a number 10.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI have a theory why Ange has picked Goodwin, ruka. He's going to play his traditional 5-4-1( or however you want to put it) with a bit of a twist. I think he will deploy a style similar to Chelsea, 5-2-3. The five at the back will be the 3 CB's plus the 2 wing backs. Then he will play two holding midfielders in the middle. Then he will play a front three with two wide guys instead of two narrow no 10's if you like. It will still allow lecks and smith to be the WB and Goodwin and kruse the wingers. So my side looks like this. Ryan Milligan Sainsbury JurmanLeckie Smith Luongo MooyKruse Juric GoodwinThoughts? would like an excuse to get leckie forward. Could you explain more about the chelsea system? before our lack of fullbacks and goal scoring wingers required a voodoo formation without either really now we have goal scoring wingers and no fullbacks (except gersbach when fit) it would be nice to have a formation that voids the need for traditional fullbacks but has wingers Does chelsea's system achieve this? The wingbacks in the Chelsea system which would actually benefit us is they are purely engines who just run up and down the pitch. But further up the pitch they also have inside forwards like Hazard who look to get behind the defence and are a constant goal threat, that'd perfectly suit someone like Leckie. However there is no way Ange would ever utilise a system which by nature doesn't control the match, it is a typical Italian formation where they soak up the pressure and kill you on the counter attack. That's rather what I've been driving at. Or 4-2-3-1 and fairly flat back four. But what you describe, I think, best plays to Australia's current strengths and minimises risks from our weaknesses. What irritates me is that too often we play a style of football which I think does the exact opposite. To be fair i don't think we actually have a good enough holding mid and box to box midfielder for the Chelsea formation either, Jedinak isn't good enough on the ball to start a counter attack although he would protect the defence and Mooy would be next to useless in the system as well. defensively our holding mids are in formidable form for their clubs luogno generates 6 turnovers a game and mooy 5. A good player will get 4 turnovers a game so they are doing well however they both are slow over the 5m which means defensively we have a tactical weakness (which got exploited at the confeds) Luongo would be a good box to box for it but i see Mooy struggling majorly, there is a major difference in winning the ball in a team which presses high compared to a team which is camped in their half and have far more defensive duties. But ultimately we'd weaken where we are strongest at. The fuck you on about? Have you seen huddersfield play? Have u see how much ground Mooy covers? How much pressing wagner expects from his team? Sometimes reading this forum is hilarious.. That Mooy wouldn't be as effective as a defensive midfielder in Chelsea's system, quite simple to understand really. Lol so a defensive mid now? Not box to box? Make ur mind up.. Mooy is better as a playmaker, not someone who should do the dirty work which is what is required from both midfielders in that system. Do you honestly think you'd get the best out of him where he has to constantly defend and his playmaking abilities limited, the answer is no.
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+x+xIf Ange had half a brain cell he would play 4ATB, put the cue in the rack and not concede any goals and come out blasting at home on Tuesday. It's exactly what we need to do tonight, but we won't. We'll plod out from the back, turning the ball over from unforced errors and be vulnerable on the break. Lets just pray we somehow don't concede more than one. Thats completely up to Syria. One thing we can just about guarantee is that they will have enough clear cut chances.
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I just don't want to see us plodding around the park. We need to show some urgency, like all our opponents appear to show or we do when it's the last 5-10 minutes and we realise we are in deep shit. Our possession game seems to suit the plodding game, whereas fast breaks are more of a result f having little ability to retain possession for long periods. Just wish we could mix it up a bit like um, dunno the Matildas?????
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AFC hub Youtube is showing a live stream but I expect Bein sports to take it down quickly. Searching for the game under livestream filter on YouTube should bring up multiple ones as lots of Asians will have them set up.
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Does anybody know if there will be any radio commentary?
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Hope we destroy them. Shut those Syrians clowns on Facebook up :D
Please play as a unit tonight. Sick of these passes to a man who is then all alone with no support.
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+xDoes anybody know if there will be any radio commentary? In round 2 of qualifying SBS had radio for all matches. It was great for Tajikistan away. That seems to have ceased. Perhaps ABC grandstand?
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Aust to win 2-1
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+xHope we destroy them. Shut those Syrians clowns on Facebook up :D Please play as a unit tonight. Sick of these passes to a man who is then all alone with no support. To be fair the world is looking at this game from the Syrian perspective and backing in the underdogs, just saw a spot on CNN about tonight's match, didn't see one scrap of green and gold.
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+x+xHope we destroy them. Shut those Syrians clowns on Facebook up :D Please play as a unit tonight. Sick of these passes to a man who is then all alone with no support. To be fair the world is looking at this game from the Syrian perspective and backing in the underdogs, just saw a spot on CNN about tonight's match, didn't see one scrap of green and gold. Regardless of the result it should make German sports news later today. South America has massive crunch qualifying as dies UEFA so we may slop down the list of stories. Leckie and Kruse get us good exposure.
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is the game online on FTA TV ?
( dont have foxtel )
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Get it on Fox 501 right now. Doco on the Aus v Uruguay
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Ange: Tonight, we want to be fluid, play a high-tempo, and most of all, not let the opposition or the conditions disrupt us. He hasn't learnt anything, we're fucked.
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+xis the game online on FTA TV ? ( dont have foxtel ) Yeah 9now.com.au
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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+xAnge: Tonight, we want to be fluid, play a high-tempo, and most of all, not let the opposition or the conditions disrupt us. He hasn't learnt anything, we're fucked. Ange PostegotnoUhuglue
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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queue postencoglue leader of men, ruler of galaxies. and likes the ball played on the deck, thank you.
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Day really flying by. Under two hours to go.
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Line up out in around 35-45 mins. Socceroos Facebook get it out often more than an hour before kick off.
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posta really goes into depth with his match prep. I expect an all-encompassing approach to this game. finer details etc, that's what really matters
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