You could be right, but pro/rel to the NPL below it will help keep clubs motivated and people interested.

I think the important thing with the implementation of a 2nd Div is to state the ambition to introduce pro/rel to the A-League and a plan/timeline for it to happen. It doesn't have to be in place from day 1, as long as there is a commitment.

I think a 2nd division is important development wise (condensing talent pool etc) so I think that it's important to have one regardless of the rest of the arguments. Politically it is much easier to achieve as well (being realistic as opposed to what ideally I would want). 

I agree though, that without pro/rel it will just be another NPL like league of 1k crowds and little exposure and sponsorship. At the very least you would want there t be a time frame. Ie. 4 years (or whatever lines up with tv deal) as a stand alone league for teams to sort themselves out and let the 2nd division have a few years to sort out any logistical teething issues etc.

Even that is quicker than it WILL happen but there needs to be plans put in place.
I know people like the select few think you can just say "now" and pro/rel will happen but real life and business and contracts etc etc are not so easy in the big boy world.

If 2nd Tier clubs can reach and sustain that level of revenue then with a distribution from the FFA of $3.5m pa they wouldn't be far off being at the average A-League club expenditure of $7.5m and promotion to it would seem viable in the near future especially if the FFA frees up the league.

You want promotion win the ffa cup that will prove your worth and give a morale case.
If you can't do that you don't deserve to be in the top league.
It's that simple

Haha wowee

If you want promotion prove you are broad based representing s geogphical area

Do you ever read what you write and then feel embarrassed for yourself? This is one of those moments.

Bitter af

No I read what you write and wonder why you never learn , change or understand the way any system works . Just like your AAFC a hammer and nut approach in the hands of a toddler with a tantrum. Pathetic

The irony hahaha what a bitter. By the way when will we see the downfall and this scandalous revelation that you have prophicised? Tell me sweet gypsy.

Whis is this Krones bloke salty as hell? Something related to his son not getting selecting for some team isn't it?

No you like your AAFC have no idea what you are doing NSL all over again

You would think that would be the case and the eventual aim of this. Adelaide City have been the first team to put their hand up. We have a team from Western Oz put their name in the hat. From these two sides it is clear that teams such as South Melbourne, Heidelberg, Sydney United, Sydney Olympic could easily foot the bill.

OK, so this year we lose 9 teams from the A League

You could just ban all current HAL teams from competing

Winner gets a HAL spot, would save worrying about having something as outrageous as a 2nd Div and spice up the Cup no end

Self Interest

The addition of any of the former ethic
NSL teams into the A-League will cause its demise

The bitters know it but they don't give a faaark

Self Interest

How

Right back at you paulc

lol

Kick Leicester City, Crystal Palace, Brighton and Hove Albion, Watford and Stoke out of the Premier League then

Self Interest

With a full pyramid everybody thrives on Self Interest

Ah Mr O'Donovan, but we are ready for Promotion & Relegation. The need is now to revive and sustain the competition.

You are such a twitt. The FFA give you an opportunity to play against theirA league team publicly humiliate them and win a media covering FFA cup, that will then give you credibility to force inclusion in the top league. And you are backing the AAFC what a useless bunch of NSL dinosaurs. ffs Nfi

That's cause the team you play for would be the first one relegated

Old mate didn't take his meds this morning

Play for? The blokes living from his sons locker. Couldn't even break into Fury. 

The select few
Brains of a Nat or NSL dinosaur

Who needs P&R when you have metrics!. Honestly you can stick P&R up ya Arse!






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Krones salty nut or old gypsy

IMO if the league can't sustain an extra 4-6 teams, I just don't see how we can sustain a 2nd division & even begin to think of p&r. 

Roy gets it.