Angry A-League clubs finally get to go through FFA financial accounts


Angry A-League clubs finally get to go through FFA financial accounts

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Joffa - 20 Oct 2017 8:22 PM
Do the club owners have the best interests of Australian football at heart?The answer is no they don't, they are governed by self interest.And whilst being governed by self interest is okay and good to a point, does anyone really want Greg Griffin running the show?The FFA needs to find s way to repair the relationships with clubs, andyes give all stakeholders a greater say and transparency in the running of the game.But if anyone thinks there is this magical pot of gold under the FFA's pillow...there dreaming.N.B the only A-League club that hasn't received financial assistance from the FFA in the history of the A-League is the Wellington Phoenix

What is the Football Federation of Australia (FFA)?

Founded in 2004, FFA says in its mission statement that it has a "long-term vision is to establish Australia as a truly world-class football nation". In addition to helping build A-League and national teams, the association is accountable to the "football community".

According to its constitution, it's charged with governing state soccer bodies and leagues, and "encouraging football games at all levels". It appears to be a well-resourced organisation – its corporate partners include Qantas, Hyundai, Nike, Westfield, NAB and Optus.

While Foster didn't respond to our request for comment, FFA freely admitted "junior registrations" are a source of revenue for elite regional teams across Australia, most of which lack other reliable sources of revenue. "It's an issue we're trying to find a way to fix, but there's no overnight fix. It's a complicated beast," says FFR Public Relations Manager Mark Jensen.

In one example of the FFA's efforts to impose a national approach to youth clubs, it recently introduced an Australia-wide registration system. In the case of NSW, Jensen says FFA gets about $17 of each registration, while Football NSW gets about $30, a breakdown that's similar from state to state.

Of the 1.7 million youth players in the country (including schools and futsal), about 600,000 register with FFA via their respective clubs. The remainder of the money is then sent back to the clubs and is out of FFA's hands. "The new online system is purely an administrative tool so local clubs don't have to deal with the time-consuming task of processing hundreds of registrations," Jensen says.
Kids' sports fees - education and childcare
Can we ask where this money is going?


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Joff,
The HAL owners are interested in football.But their primary concern is their own clubs.Have they ever expressed an interest in running the game in Australia?
The only reason there is a HAL is becuase they are prepared to pay for it.
I am staggered that all of them didnt leave long ago.They have been screwed by FFA from day one.The fact that FFA and the likes of you don't get it is amazing.
FFA have shown over many years they are not really interested in doing what is best for Australian football,but what is best for themselves.If they continue to control the game through their cartel,then the game here is doomed to repeat past failures.

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crimsoncrusoe - 20 Oct 2017 10:18 PM
Joff,The HAL owners are interested in football.But their primary concern is their own clubs.Have they ever expressed an interest in running the game in Australia?The only reason there is a HAL is becuase they are prepared to pay for it.I am staggered that all of them didnt leave long ago.They have been screwed by FFA from day one.The fact that FFA and the likes of you don't get it is amazing.FFA have shown over many years they are not really interested in doing what is best for Australian football,but what is best for themselves.If they continue to control the game through their cartel,then the game here is doomed to repeat past failures.

The FFA does get it, they set it up precisely this way, to control it all.  They certainly get it, and they don't want to give it up to easily.

Club owners have been screwed over this whole time.   But what did they think they were buying into?  It was a franchise system from day one.
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Joffa - 20 Oct 2017 8:58 PM
Would you understand what I wrote if l used another language or pictures? Dude if I rolled that way your non stop love affair with me would make me the happiest dude alive...sorry dude but I just can't reciprocate. Sorry if I used too many 2 dollar words....

What's another language got to do with anything? Jesus Christ you're losing it.


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bettega - 20 Oct 2017 10:25 PM
crimsoncrusoe - 20 Oct 2017 10:18 PM

The FFA does get it, they set it up precisely this way, to control it all.  They certainly get it, and they don't want to give it up to easily.

Club owners have been screwed over this whole time.   But what did they think they were buying into?  It was a franchise system from day one.

At the inception of the HAL the clubs were told they were buying in to losses for the first 3 years and breakeven after 5. It is clear from how the league is structured that the FFA never intended to honour this. They have constantly pulled out a bigger slice of the growing revenues to ensure the clubs remain loss makers and essentially locked in to investing an extra 20 million of their own funds year after year. And there's no indication they will change. I'm surprised the investors weren't pulling the trigger on the FFA 5+ years ago.

To all those who question the "self interest" of the HAL clubs I say this. They have lost $300 million. A third of a billion. The FFA is wrapped in its own ideology that everyone else's money is theirs to spend.It has to stop.
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  • Former FFA Chairman Frank Lowy (L), hands over the bid to host the FIFA 2022 World Cup to FIFA President Josef Blatter (KEYSTONE)
Fresh questions over money spent during Australia’s failed World Cup bid have emerged, with sources in Asia saying they have seen little or no sign of the millions allocated for football development projects.
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Jack Kerr
 
8 NOV 2017 - 10:12 AM  UPDATED 7 HOURS AGO

It’s the balls that he remembers. Hundreds and hundreds of them. Or, more likely, thousands. Each a gift from Australia looking to win friends in Asia as it campaigned for the right to host the 2022 World Cup.

“There was a shipment of footballs from the FFA,” said Mohamed Basir, then director of education in a football development project being run in Chonburi, Thailand. “It was not a small amount.”

Others involved in the program, run as part of Vision Asia, a pet project of then AFC president Mohammed Bin Hammam, remember boxes full of training cones arriving from Australia too.

Football Federation Australia officially launched their bid for the right to host the 2022 showpiece in June 2009, with world governing body FIFA controversially awarding the right to Qatar in December 2010.

Australia’s largesse in this period was so great that the AFC handed the FFA its inaugural Dream Asia award in 2010, a prize which recognises contributions to social development through football.

But finding out details of how much money was spent - and where exactly it went - has proven difficult.

The few remaining reports on either the FFA or AFC websites are short on detail, and repeated requests for more information have been ignored. Even at the time, the FFA was not forthcoming on details.

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“FFA PR on AFC awards omits any details of their Dream Asia award...for investing $5million in O/S football projects in Asia,” tweeted one journalist on the night of the event. “Wonder why?”

Nothing could be found detailing FFA’s involvement in four Vision Asia projects: giving out equipment in Thailand and Vietnam, helping with football development projects in Timor Leste, and a contribution to the construction of a futsal park in Chengdu, China, following the Sichuan earthquake.

Elsewhere, Frank Lowy spoke of flying youth teams from Laos and Malaysia to tournaments in Australia, and of a project in the Philippines.

All moneys went to projects in the ASEAN Football Federation countries, which were unofficially represented in the World Cup vote by Thailand’s Worawi Makudi.

While the ABC’s Four Corners program has also reported the $5 million spend, an FFA report tabled in Parliament shows its contribution in Asia was actually closer to $1.5 million.

“The discrepancy raises questions,” FFA whistleblower Bonita Mersiades told The World Game.

“Was $5 million paid? If so, from what bucket of money? Has it helped those it was intended to help? If $5 million was not paid, why did FFA receive a Dream Asia award in November 2010 for a $5 million donation?

“It seems odd that a $1.5 million or $5 million donation - whichever it is - was not given greater publicity. Why keep it quiet?

“It's surprising that FFA's members (state federations) have never been interested in finding out.”

Whatever the true figure, some on the ground are questioning where all the money went.

In Timor Leste, promises were made to develop the half-island’s first national league, to provide introductory training for coaches and to send football administrators to Darwin for development work.

Almost a decade later, Australia’s closest Asian neighbour is still without a league, and football has been mismanaged to such a degree that the national team has been expelled from the next Asian Cup.

Egas Alves, a Timorese academic and campaigner involved in trying to clean up football in his home country is unaware of any spending in Timor Leste, from either the FFA or the AFC.

“Since my involvement in the football up to this date, I never heard or seen this football development happening,” he said.

“The public has no information [about this spending]. Thus it creates a lack of scrutiny from the public which potentially could create a deviation of this funding by the recipients.”

The recently released Garcia Report, FIFA's internal assessment of the World Cup bidding scandal, has already raised concerns about Australia’s use of development money to curry favour with voting officials (though it did not specifically mention spending in Asia).

“These examples of 'football development' reveal a disturbing pattern,” the report concluded of Australia's campaign.

“FFA’s approach to funding development projects in Africa and elsewhere is a further unfortunate example of bid teams using money that should be awarded based upon humanitarian considerations to curry favor with officials eligible to vote.

“Australia 2022 appears to have reached the firm conclusion that it could best ‘demonstrate [its] commitment’ by targeting development projects in areas home to FIFA Executive Committee members.”

The FFA has previously come under fire for a $500,000 payment made to football in the Caribbean. This is significantly less than the money spent in Asia.

A Freedom of Information request has revealed a number of documents relating to Australia’s spending in Asia, though these documents have not been released.

FFA have also been approached for a response.

Mersiades says development funding has long been an avenue through which favours have been sought and granted in the football world.

“FIFA has introduced recent changes to their processes in respect of the funding they distribute in recognition of the fact that there was previously insufficient management and accountability of development funds," she said.

"Whether these changes are sufficient remains to be seen."

One person involved in a Vision Asia project, who did not wish to be named, said barely any money was seen at ground level.

“How much money trickles down to development is a pittance,” he said. “You wonder where the rest goes.”

New allegations emerge over millions spent in FFA's failed World Cup bid | : The World Game


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HeyItsRobbie - 20 Oct 2017 8:12 PM
Grabbing my tin foil hat.

Why do i have a funny feeling that A-league clubs is being used as a cash cow to fund lowys Westfield shopping empire

LOL Just read this gem.  You clearly don't know anything of the size of Westfield.  They got into trouble this year because profit halved.  They only produced $1.2 Billion NET PROFIT!

The FFA's earnings and yearnings isn't even gum on the shoe of the Lowys.  It costs that family a hell of a lot to be involved with Football in this country.  I do genuinely hope they withdraw every cent they put in though.  The game needs to learn to actually stand up by itself.



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What a massive LOL that FFA are supposed to have funded Futsul in China.Yet they have screwed Futsul here.

@SW&P are you a Lowy?

So a Lowy controlled and partly owned entity took a 50% profit cut.Looks like his managerial skills are flying atm.
There are a few owners of HAL clubs who have gum on their shoe.But they all have lost way more money in the HAL than the Lowys.
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