I want to know who called for the introduction of Var worldwide, I'm tipping the fans of the sport did not want it or even thought of it, jeez I have seen fans go mental because a.stadium introduced wifi.

We have all watched football years, 4.decades in my case, the thought of video refs , never come into my mind , my teams/ country has copped some shocking decisions and not once have I thought we need a video referee. 

People go to watch this sport worldwide, just as their fathers, mother or grandfather's have over 150 years, we are united in songs and passion for our sides, this technology is a real threat to everything we love about football.  

That last minute winner, where stands go mental, all of that is threatened by Var, because that last minute goal, can never be truly celebrated anymore.  Because in the back of your mind, your thinking was he offside, oh know they are reviewing the goal. All that instant joy gone forever, this is what Var does.

Personally I have not celebrated the 2 vMelb vctory goals this season, as I thought both may have been offside and that is a terrible situation to be as  a fan.

This sums it up well for me, no goal anymore can truly be celebrated, it truly sucks the spirit out of what is great about our game.

Oh you won't get any argument from me that it's a farce and its application so far is a joke. I never wanted VAR and have always been totally against it and wish it was never even considered. I will admit you can argue about whether it was a howler of a decision but like you say, it is what it's brought in for so my point was just, arguments about the consistency of its application aside, there can't really be any complaints about this specific decision.

It's the inconsistency that kills. All it has done is taken the authority off the ref to make a subjective decision and moved it to the VAR to make a subjective decision. You can still have a poor quality decision with a poor quality VAR.

It seems like they randomly select incidents to review

@sydney58

Agreed on all counts then 👍

To tell you the truth I would rather Henry owning up to the fact that he handled the ball. I am not naive enough to know that would happen but for me as a sportsman I don't know any other way. In the end the only person you cheat is yourself. Is that how you want to win or how you want to be remembered. 

In this world as a man you have two things you should always rely on,  your balls and your word - Richard Rawlings Gas monkey garage, Fast n Loud :D

VAR is destroying the goodwill and positive culture FFA has built in Australian football. 

He did own up.  He said he was surprised it wasn't given as a handball.  He's said so on more than one occasion.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/republic-of-ireland/6599687/Thierry-Henry-admits-to-handball-that-defeated-Ireland-in-World-Cup-play-off.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/henry-admits-handball-but-blames-referee-1.774543 

No if he owned up, he would have said to the ref it wasn't a goal. I know that's totally unreasonable to expect to him to do that but once upon a time it would have been a natural thing to do. Always live your life with integrity as best you can. Don't worry most of us are hypocrites when we say that, myself included. 

Funny that people can watch the slow mo reply of the Berisha penalty and their bias makes them blind to the bleeding obvious that his leg was illegally clipped.

Rofl Slater ya ledge.

-PB

VAR will turn football in cricket and NRL where the officials are too chicken shit to make decisions on their own.  I despise it & want it gone.  

I don't like the VAR for so many reasons. Goal line technology was a good idea ..but that's all.
The game has existed for s long time without it and has also existed on TV for a long time without it.
Refs make errors but its part of the game ...accept them and move on.
My other big concern is ...how long will they add on to the extra time of a game to compensate for its usage ?
Games could end up like Gridiron..... stoppages and timeouts everywhere.

VAR = video assistance referee, so it refers to the referee who is looking at video. So the VAR does make the decision.

The rules state the VAR can only review 4 types of incidents:

• Direct Red cards.
• Penalty Decisions.
• Mistaken identity (in relation to a card being given)
• Goals (did the ball cross the line, was there a foul, offside or did the ball go out of play leading up to the goal).

how was Neymar sent off on the weekend?

The video explains it all perfectly.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/simon-hill-why-var-technology-is-not-needed-and-a-look-at-footballs-culture-is-bigger-problem/news-story/68f7de328ed897f5e1158f84e0a98f27?nk=e18c7ed4e180c80d4ca39d9b093cda99-1509055162

A spate of nasty incidents. A plethora of words. The same old scapegoats.

Tuesday’s FFA Cup Semi-Final drew the ire of the masses, thanks to two challenges in particular from Western Sydney Wanderers players. Most of it had referee, Peter Green, as the target.

Even the players & coaches have joined in.

Adelaide United’s Daniel Adlung opined that “in Germany, tackles like that, you get a red card.”

Last Friday, his coach, Marco Kurz, argued that “the officials had been influenced by the players” after a spiteful clash with Melbourne Victory. Kevin Muscat meantime, accused fourth official Daniel Elder of inciting the spat that has led to Besart Berisha being called to appear before the Disciplinary & Ethics Committee.

Notice the common thread? All blame, little responsibility.

In the rush to heap bile on Green, for failing to send both Roly Bonevacia and Jacob Melling off (and for what it’s worth, I believe he got his decision wrong in both instances), the football community continues to ignore the real culprits.For however much Green may have erred in his application of the laws, he did not tackle Isaias at knee height (as Bonevacia did), nor did he launch two-footed at Jordan Elsey (as Melling did).Ultimate responsibility for the safety of players does NOT lie with the referee - he can only issue sanction retrospectively.

It lies with the players and clubs themselves.Therein lies the biggest problem in the game of football.

read more in the link.

Agree somewhat or at least see what he is getting at but when players do cross the line, as they always will, that's when it's the ref's job. When th eref misses it it's up to the review panel to step in.

Why in holy fucks name have we heard nothing about the two WSW tackles being reviewed?? Just coz it was a cup tie?

VAR on the day would have seen them both carded surely. Green may not have seen the way Melling went in from his position but the replay is enough to make anyone sick/angry.

I had an open mind on VAR last season.
As time goes on I am liking it less and less.
It along with the MRP seem to pick on certain things and completely miss others.
If this is going to be the situation I would rather just go back to the refs decisions.
Then all we would have to do is get some new independent refs instead of the old ones that we have who have called the same teams too many times and ref with preconceived opinions on players / teams.
I really would like to see an exchange program where we swap our refs in/out with overseas leagues.

Fair enough but it seems the first port of call when a game over these days is to howl at the ref and cry and whinge and moan about his decisions and how it 'cost us the game'.

I've sat in dressing rooms hundreds of times after a loss and it's always the same type of bloke(s) whinging about how 'the ref had it in for us' or 'we got nothing all game'.

One time I had a gutful and said 'yeah and if we hadn't of missed the 3 open goals from inside the 6 or blasted over the bar 5 times we wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation'.

The problem with the constant, non-stop moaning at the refs on the TV is that it trickles all the way down to the Grassroots. It's getting ridiculous now. I've had to card 13 year old kids for dissent every other game this last season just gone.  Whatever happened to 'OK boys accept the ref's decision and move on'.

It's shit.

I'm really looking forward to the new rules which allow you to card the coach and manager.  (The sooner they come in the better.)

I actually agree with you. What happened to captains being the only ones allowed to talk to a ref? The crowding of the ref has become ridiculous especially in big games. 

And yeah, always the same ones in the dressing room after games. It gets so boring and have done the same as you before though to be fair I have played a fair few games where the ref HAS had it in for me. Not in a "lost us the game" way but just in a constantly making 50/50 calls against me. To be fair I always was a bit of a hot head and was probably too lippy. Actually, I am exactly who i was complaining about in my first sentence aha but yeah I wasn't getting paid to play on national television with kids wathching who imitate me.

Should be an automatic yellow for every player involved. 

I honestly can't watch big games in Spain because it all just becomes ridiculous with everyone crowding the ref after every foul.  It's not as bad here, but certain clubs here do it more than others (Victory, Adelaide and Sydney immediately come to mind) and it's fucking terrible. 

Yep they are the 3 I thought of instantly too.
Games between us two have been ridiculous and becoming more so for years.
Imagine if Muscat still played. Him and Isaias on the pitch at the same time, both as captains. Would have been amazing to see aha

There is too much communication between player and ref.
Talking to the ref should be discouraged all together.
The ref should blow his whistle, make a gesture and that is it.
This is how it works best and why I have no issue with overseas refs coming in.
All this talking leads to touching which leads to pushing and we all know how that ends up.
So cut the chatter and get on with it.

According to the rules, it's still up to the on-field ref whether to refer to VAR or not. Even if the VAR catches something the on-field ref doesn't, it's still up to the on-field ref to decide whether to take action or not. It's possible those tackles were reviewed by the VAR but the on-field ref decided to just get on with the game rather than book anyone.

I think it's that there is no VAR in the Cup as far as I know.
I just meant if those tackles had happened in the league a) they would have been looked at by VAR but also b) I reckon they would have gone to the MRP anyway.

Either way I'm just baffled both players got away with it