ANZ and Allianz officially to be knocked down


ANZ and Allianz officially to be knocked down

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Its pretty obvious that Bling FC needs a big name to get bums on seats. This wont happen under Arnie so their growth is stunted. Doesnt matter how many games they win. No one is turning up to see a Ninko or Bobo. No one cares. 

Arnold even got rid of Janko because he was getting too popular for his liking. 

Sure, he is gods gift to core fans but he does nothing to grow your base. Sydney FC needs a Crouch or Del Piero or Drogba. Not a Polish guy no one knows or Matt Simon, its the fan culture around SFC.





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scott21 - 10 Dec 2017 4:34 AM
Its pretty obvious that Bling FC needs a big name to get bums on seats. This wont happen under Arnie so their growth is stunted. Doesnt matter how many games they win. No one is turning up to see a Ninko or Bobo. No one cares. 

Arnold even got rid of Janko because he was getting too popular for his liking. 

Sure, he is gods gift to core fans but he does nothing to grow your base. Sydney FC needs a Crouch or Del Piero or Drogba. Not a Polish guy no one knows or Matt Simon, its the fan culture around SFC.





and what makes you think those guys are going to come here without earning millions?

should ask though, did sydney fc make much money when they had del piero or was it the opposite?
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No it won't come cheap but this is where they are now. No visa player who is anywhere near ADP will be cheap. Any marquee who is not near ADP will be considered a nobody and won't help the numbers.

I'm pretty sure he helped with their Facebook likes. Not sure if he helped financially. Probably via sponsorships. "That Australian team Del Perio played for"
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scott21 - 10 Dec 2017 4:34 AM
Its pretty obvious that Bling FC needs a big name to get bums on seats. This wont happen under Arnie so their growth is stunted. Doesnt matter how many games they win. No one is turning up to see a Ninko or Bobo. No one cares. 

Arnold even got rid of Janko because he was getting too popular for his liking. 

Sure, he is gods gift to core fans but he does nothing to grow your base. Sydney FC needs a Crouch or Del Piero or Drogba. Not a Polish guy no one knows or Matt Simon, its the fan culture around SFC.





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Tap wealthy private and corporate donors to help fund new stadiums

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Amid the debate regarding plans for new stadiums at Moore Park and Homebush, no one has considered alternatives to relying solely on government funding. It seems that no club or national organisation has been asked to contribute towards the capital costs. On the contrary, teams and sports are instead likely to be the recipient of compensation monies for having to move games away from their traditional home base, and for relocating their administration headquarters during construction.

Elite sport plays a vital role in inspiring young Aussies to engage in sport, and major events need suitable stadiums. There are also established economic and social benefits driven by major sporting events. However, sports are becoming increasingly reliant on government funding and a culture of dependency exists in some sports. The "handout" culture mentality within sport needs to be curbed.

There is another way towards offsetting government's contribution for the new stadiums. It involves a pro-active funding partnership with sports fans, club members and their communities where government grants are conditional on project monies being raised via philanthropic and community donations.

Examples exist. Earlier this year, Geelong AFL club unveiled its newly built $91 million Brownlow Stand at its Simonds Stadium home. Last Wednesday, the Western Australian Cricket Association announced a $150 million revamp of the WACA ground in Perth. Significantly, both projects are not solely reliant on government grants to fund them.

As part of the funding mix, Geelong and the WACA have tapped into an under-utilised available resource – tax-deductible donations in support of these projects in partnership with the Australian Sports Foundation. Geelong raised $12 million in fundraising with the Sports Foundation for its new stand, while the WACA also aims to generate $12 million towards its project.

Established by the federal government in 1986 to assist the development of sport, the Sports Foundation is the only body that can provide philanthropists and private and corporate donors with a tax deduction for donations to registered sports projects. Projects range from stadium redevelopments, clubroom and dressing room upgrades and team travel through to funding for state and national-standard athletes. In 2016-17, the Sports Foundation raised $44.75 million for sport – taking total monies raised over the past three years to more than $100 million.

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There is nothing preventing the SCG Trust, ANZ Stadium, the NRL, Football Federation Australia, Rugby Australia and their various member teams, which use the Sydney Football Stadium and ANZ Stadium as home grounds, from fundraising towards a portion of the capital costs with tax-deductible donations and philanthropic giving.

The business, corporate and community networks within each organisation are vast, and they are passionate about sport. It is a matter of tapping into these existing groups.

Government-philanthropic tax-deductible funding partnerships already exists within the arts. The NSW government has budgeted $244 million to help the Art Gallery of NSW build its Sydney Modern extension. But the funds are contingent on the gallery fundraising $100 million towards the project. Wealthy Sydney families have already donated $88 million for the new building.

As the only body with deductible gift recipient status available to sport, the Sport Foundation stands ready to work with all parties to contribute to the stadiums' costs – just as government has partnered with the gallery.

Monies saved via a fundraising partnership with stadium tenants can be directed by government to other needy grassroots community capital works sports projects.

Philanthropic and community tax-deductible donations can and should play a major role in facility funding at the SFS and ANZ stadiums to reduce the drain on government funds.

Patrick Walker is CEO of the Australian Sports Foundation.

Tap wealthy private and corporate donors to help fund new stadiums


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There is a Chinese group that have proposed to build a stadium but FFA dont seem interested. 
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Sydney chairman Andrew Pridham calls on funding help with Swans to lose out over stadium rebuild

THE AFL and the Swans are the big losers in Sydney’s $2 billion stadium rebuild.

The first thing the code will be without is the venue which has hosted the 11 largest crowds outside Victoria in the game’s history.

The red and white army won’t miss ANZ Stadium, but their club is in for a host of challenges in the coming years which include sharing their home ground with the Sydney Roosters, NSW Waratahs, State of Origin and possibly Sydney FC.

The wear and tear alone will restrict their ability to train on their home ground. It’s a squeeze the Swans have been feeling for a long time as they fight for space in the most competitive sporting market in the world.

Their practice ground opposite the SCG recently lost one of its wings to Sydney’s light rail project. The Swans are currently training at Sydney Grammar School, running around a heavy roller on their cricket pitch.

But the biggest tightening the Swans will feel is in the State Government’s purse strings.

They now find themselves well down the queue when it comes to the funding of any future developments at their home ground, including their much-desired training and administration centre.

As CEO of the Australian division of Moelis and Company, Swans chairman Andrew Pridham knows how to make money but this could be the toughest assignment of his tenure. His wish list is sensibly modest — new grandstands at the SCG aren’t on it but a new $50 million HQ is.

“Our training facility is one of the worst in the AFL,” Pridham said.

“(That’s) when you consider the Swans are the biggest tenant at the SCG, we have the biggest supporter group of any sporting club in Australia with 1.2 million. We’re the biggest sporting club in NSW. It’s not unfair that we would look for government support.”

The SCG Trust has a blueprint for the replacement of the Brewongle/Churchill and Bill O’Reilly Stands but the Swans aren’t particularly interested in any of them at the moment.

“We have no desire for the Brewongle or the Bill O’Reilly stands to be redeveloped, that’s not on our agenda, we’ve never really pushed it,” Pridham said.

“Our focus is about our training facilities and ovals so we can get a women’s team going. So we can keep our academy going and our indigenous program going and our senior team.”

The Swans’ training and administration facility is way off the pace when it comes to most of the teams in the AFL.

Fremantle is spending a staggering $100 million on their new complex and Essendon have a stunning set up at Tullamarine, complete with MCG and Etihad Stadium replicas on which to train. But Pridham and the Swans are aiming for around half that money.

“In the context of this stadium strategy our needs are very, very modest,” Pridham said.

“We are talking pennies compared to what’s going on elsewhere. We’re important to a lot of people in NSW so we want that reflected. We can’t get a women’s team and grow our academy until we’ve got the facilities. But equally important is we need ovals to train on.”


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chillbilly - 18 Dec 2017 9:39 PM

Sydney chairman Andrew Pridham calls on funding help with Swans to lose out over stadium rebuild

THE AFL and the Swans are the big losers in Sydney’s $2 billion stadium rebuild.

The first thing the code will be without is the venue which has hosted the 11 largest crowds outside Victoria in the game’s history.

The red and white army won’t miss ANZ Stadium, but their club is in for a host of challenges in the coming years which include sharing their home ground with the Sydney Roosters, NSW Waratahs, State of Origin and possibly Sydney FC.

The wear and tear alone will restrict their ability to train on their home ground. It’s a squeeze the Swans have been feeling for a long time as they fight for space in the most competitive sporting market in the world.

Their practice ground opposite the SCG recently lost one of its wings to Sydney’s light rail project. The Swans are currently training at Sydney Grammar School, running around a heavy roller on their cricket pitch.

But the biggest tightening the Swans will feel is in the State Government’s purse strings.

They now find themselves well down the queue when it comes to the funding of any future developments at their home ground, including their much-desired training and administration centre.

As CEO of the Australian division of Moelis and Company, Swans chairman Andrew Pridham knows how to make money but this could be the toughest assignment of his tenure. His wish list is sensibly modest — new grandstands at the SCG aren’t on it but a new $50 million HQ is.

“Our training facility is one of the worst in the AFL,” Pridham said.

“(That’s) when you consider the Swans are the biggest tenant at the SCG, we have the biggest supporter group of any sporting club in Australia with 1.2 million. We’re the biggest sporting club in NSW. It’s not unfair that we would look for government support.”

The SCG Trust has a blueprint for the replacement of the Brewongle/Churchill and Bill O’Reilly Stands but the Swans aren’t particularly interested in any of them at the moment.

“We have no desire for the Brewongle or the Bill O’Reilly stands to be redeveloped, that’s not on our agenda, we’ve never really pushed it,” Pridham said.

“Our focus is about our training facilities and ovals so we can get a women’s team going. So we can keep our academy going and our indigenous program going and our senior team.”

The Swans’ training and administration facility is way off the pace when it comes to most of the teams in the AFL.

Fremantle is spending a staggering $100 million on their new complex and Essendon have a stunning set up at Tullamarine, complete with MCG and Etihad Stadium replicas on which to train. But Pridham and the Swans are aiming for around half that money.

“In the context of this stadium strategy our needs are very, very modest,” Pridham said.

“We are talking pennies compared to what’s going on elsewhere. We’re important to a lot of people in NSW so we want that reflected. We can’t get a women’s team and grow our academy until we’ve got the facilities. But equally important is we need ovals to train on.”


The swans can tell someone who cares. They have a 2.5 billion media deal. Stop going cap in hand to everyone else and pay your own way.
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I saw this article the other week. Didnt post it but it is probably more relevant now. 

COMMENT: Why Sydney has a size problem

Ashley Browne  December 8, 2017 7:58 PM

AFL 2016 First Qualifying Final - Sydney v GWS Giants

The Swans and Giants faced off at ANZ Stadium in the 2016 qualifying final

THE AFL likes to think of itself as Australia’s game and when it comes to any of the football codes, using most of the usual indicators, it is a sentiment that is reasonably close to the mark. 

But a fortnight ago, when the AFL world gathered en masse in Sydney for its biggest annual non-football event, the 2017 NAB AFL Draft, the League was also served a jolting reminder about how far down the pecking order it is in New South Wales. 

The NSW state government announced the very same day that it was spending $2.3 billion to rebuild Allianz Stadium, which immediately abuts the SCG in Moore Park, and to all but rebuild ANZ Stadium, the 75,000-seat stadium that was initially built less than 20 years ago for the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games. 

Add the new Western Sydney Stadium that is being built on the site of the former Parramatta Stadium, and that means three new sporting palaces for Sydney will open in the next few years, and more significantly, all rectangular and incapable of hosting AFL football, at least the 18-a-side version we have known and loved for 160 years. 

The AFL had lobbied, more out of hope than with any real degree of optimism, that the rebuilt ANZ Stadium would retain its oval configuration, so the option remained for staging really large drawing games such as a Sydney derby final or any final involving the Swans or Giants against a club with a large travelling supporter base, in a stadium that seats close to 75,000. 

Not surprisingly, NSW premier Gladys Berejiklian didn’t buy into that one. The Olympic Stadium is the home of the NRL, the Wallabies and the Socceroos, who all play on rectangular-shaped fields. Pleasing the AFL won’t win votes for any political party at the next election. 

But there was a reasonable argument that some of that $2.3 billion should have been allocated to the SCG, where both the AFL and Cricket Australia had lobbied for the Brewongle and O’Reilly Stands, both built nearly four decades ago, to be razed then rebuilt. 

The oval-shaped field sports argued that the various shortcomings that determined that Allianz Stadium needed to be bulldozed and started over applied even more so to the western corner of the SCG. Those two grandstands pre-date the neighbouring Sydney Football Stadium by nearly 10 years.

The rectangular-field sports will argue that the NSW government has fairly looked after the AFL (and cricket) in recent years, what with $45 million in 2010 to help redevelop Spotless Stadium as the match-day home for GWS and $97.5 million towards the rebuilt Bradman and Noble stands at the SCG. 

The Giants' home ground of Spotless Stadium was given a facelift. Picture: AFL Photos

And there are countless new AFL-suitable oval fields and accompanying infrastructure sprouting up all over New South Wales, and with more to come. And the reason nearly the entire AFL community decamped to Western Sydney for the draft was due to the largesse of the NSW government.

But the plain fact is that within a few years, no AFL game in Sydney will be able to be watched by a crowd of more than 48,000. The Giants might have to put aside their distaste for playing home finals at the SCG in order to maximize crowds, including any home final against the Swans. In NSW, as in Victoria, it might become a case of home state rather home ground finals.

The AFL packs plenty of punch in the corridors of power on one side of what Professor Ian Turner once called the 'Barassi Line'. 

The other side? Well, AFL boss Gillon McLachlan and commission chairman Richard Goyder still have some work to do. 


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The biggest crowd the AFL ever got at Stadium Australia was 72,000.

It’s only happened a handful of times that they have had a crowd figure in excess of the SCG’s current capacity (48k). They’d be lucky to do it once per year. Most of the time when they hold a game there it would be about 50,000 at best.

In their mind the AFL wants to hang on to ANZ for that one big game per year, or for a future sydney derby that draws a huge crowd. That’s a long way off, and it assumes the Giants will get popular.

As for money for the Swans administration and training facilities, the AFL can pay for it themselves. What return does the taxpayer get for that?
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11th largest crowd outside of Victoria...
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Get fucked, let the Victorian government fund AFL.

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"But the plain fact is that within a few years, no AFL game in Sydney will be able to be watched by a crowd of more than 48,000. The Giants might have to put aside their distaste for playing home finals at the SCG in order to maximize crowds, including any home final against the Swans. In NSW, as in Victoria, it might become a case of home state rather home ground finals."

That quote sums up I think why we have such a bloody obsession with crowds. 

The afl would be happy to get rid of all their club's identities and geographical ground advantage etc just so they can sprout their voices off by announcing a bigger crowd figure at another location. They really are that petulant.  
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The biggest crowd the AFL ever got at Stadium Australia was 72,000. It’s only happened a handful of times that they have had a crowd figure in excess of the SCG’s current capacity (48k). They’d be lucky to do it once per year. Most of the time when they hold a game there it would be about 50,000 at best. In their mind the AFL wants to hang on to ANZ for that one big game per year, or for a future sydney derby that draws a huge crowd. That’s a long way off, and it assumes the Giants will get popular.As for money for the Swans administration and training facilities, the AFL can pay for it themselves. What return does the taxpayer get for that?

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