Yes the classic as someone mentioned above, pretend we have better players and magically create more chances, score said chances and be solid defensively. Sorry Foz we don't have the quality for that, that is what the past 4 years have showed.

Our defense if you analyse each game, got worse as the Cup went on. 

This game against Peru, was absolutely shocking. 

The first goal, nobody even bothers recover after we lose the ball up field. 

Literally its a ball from one corner of the box to the other, and he takes the shot on the volley.

Just fucking abysmal defending. There's defenders still running back into position as it fly's.

Alot different to the effort shown in the first game. 

Credit to BVM for getting our defence in order. It was much better than it had been. Over the 3 games there weren't many heart in mouth chances for the opposition.

Congrats to Irvine on getting World cup minutes. Devastated Luongo got none. Our back 4 really gave their all. Thanks Rogic for giving everything in the last two games. Mooy and Jedinak fantastic except today perhaps. Leckie was empty on energy. Kruse tried but it just didn't work out. Excited for Arzani. Nabbout will contribute more. Ryan didn't even have to make a save. It either went in or over. 

Timmy. Absolute legend and you won't be eclipsed for a very long time. 

2014, like BVM in 2018, had a players for the pre-WC camp. You don't get a nice big camp like that for qualifiers generally. Nothing unusual there.

I know you are trying to be positive but i personally think they all played terrible and non of them should leave the pitch with there heads held high they performed horribly this world cup 

In terms of what we had at our disposal this tournament we gave it as good as shake as we could have pretty much. Yeah there could have been a few tweaks here and there but Foz has rocks in his head if he thinks a more proactive system would have seen us get out of this group. Considering where and when Ange left us, FFA and BVM did as good as they could in the situation. This is not to be confused with being happy with gallant performances and simply being proud of the team. It's time to be proactive ourselves and do something about it. Otherwise I'm scared we are going to be left we'll behind. We need to establish a footballing identity, whatever the hell that may be, and only then are we going to progress as a football nation.

I'd give Bert a pass mark
Not much more he could have done
Played the players in their natural positions and tightened up the defence.
Backed Risden and Milligan and both did better than expected.
Backed Nabbout up front who worked his socks off and a nice story even if it didn't bring results.
Believed in Arzani which looks like a massive win for the future.

Played an intelligent and well organised game against France
Shaded Denmark as the better team with more possession but lacked killer instinct.
Bossed Peru especially in the 1st half but again lacked killer instinct. 57% possession
Peru had 4 shots scoring 2 goals and hitting the post
We had over 14 attempts and a shit tone of poor final balls.................And thats the only reason we aren't going through to the final round

Bert did as much as he could apart from put the ball in the back of the net for them.

Really hope Folami has a break out season

We created much more under Ange. At least we always had a go. Now we're just playing like all the minnows ever have in history of football, so it's no wonder that we got such a classic minnow result at this tournament.

But whatever man, if your ambition for the socceroos doesn't extend beyond sneaking a point against Denmark from a lucky penalty, than I daresay you're not a very ambitious person. If I thought we were that hopeless, I don't think I'd even watch. 

14 to 4 shots and we ran 4km more! Ffs. We've got nothing to show for it. 

You are just making shit up, you and Foz are so set on your agenda. We created so many chances these passed 2 games, dominated possession, pressed teams in their own half but apparently we played like every bus parking minnow? Get a grip

I cant watch the first goal. The more I watch, the angrier I get. 
Literally 3 of our defenders just coast past it in opposite directions.

Yeah you cant blame the manager we lack quality on the park 

but not just up front -

Ryan - didnt really make any 'good' saves this world cup i think he might of made one decent one against France but he isnt Mark Schwarzer 

Risdon - blokes hopeless going forward and cant cross to save his life wont get a game in Europe 

Irvine/Kruse/Juric - they are just shit, poor 1st touches, poor finishers, bad decision making .... Irvine is the worst of the bunch how he makes the squad let alone gets on the field is baffling!

Milligan - blokes a hack always has been ruined his career at a young age going to the J2 league and CSL instead of Arsenal or Werner Bremen 

Jedi - as much as i love the bloke he is past his best days and is too slow 

A lot missing fozz’s point in the analysis. He was simply asking whether Australia can play better (in terms of pressing, harassing etc.) than we have in this WC.

Strongly disagree with the notion we didn't have a go.

14 shots to 4 speaks differently. As does 16 shots to 8. More an issue of the talent we have at our disposal.

On par with Carney 2011 final. Ffs football and hindsight is toxic

And if we could hit a cross to save our lives or make a single good decision in the final 3rd there'd be a lot more shots too.

BVM saying "australia played at the same level even better than their opposition despite lacking individual qualities working well as a team. But you need individual quality to decide games. We needed to find a way score with 11 players and I couldn't figure out how to do it"

I think he's saying that without individual striking qualities he wanted to find ways of scoring team goals but he couldn't figure out how to pull that off

A 3 year journey comes to an end. I was in Oz watching the game in Kyrgyzstan. It's all over now. It occupied so much of my time. It was unhealthy but felt so good.

So much hoping and calculating. I never want to go through playoffs again. The tournament itself, had you played me a video of how it really panned out I'd probably have accepted it as reality.

I had a feeling Peru would be the bogey team while we held our ground well in the other two matches. 

Foz: we should just go out all guns blazing and attack, regardless because that’s the Australian way.
442 posters: Yeah
Team leaks heaps of goals.
Foz: we need to be more tactically aware
442 posters: Yeah

The REALITY IS, other teams currently have better players than we do. Until that changes we will not be a top 15 team so shouldn’t expect to go to the second round.

We have a good basis for the next WC - Behich, Sainsbury, Mooy, Luongo, Rogic, Arzani. I doubt anyone else would make the squad of a final 16 team. All other positions we need to improve on if we are going to do any better than we have.

Watched highlights with German friends. They didn't see the game. Suddenly Peru look fortunate and we blew it. 

I agree with him, we more than matched our opponents in all 3 games but we simply had no one step up with their individual quality to break the game open. Pogba did it for France with that great run, Eriksen with that incredible finish and that incredible Carillo strike. That was the difference in the end.

Leckie has this whole prancing, dancing goose step over , shuffle back and forth like strange fake move. 

I mean you can't laugh at it , but I'm pretty sure if you put a highlight of him doing his thing next to say Neymar or some one else, it just looks a bit weird, unusual and not exactly fast or football like. 

Love him to death but so many times he near loses it and you think hmm is this going to end in fucking anything, then ahh hmm yeah, not usually. 

Leckie is just so hot and cold as a player, no consistency in his performances.

I mean there's a place for football moves, and that shit isn't anywhere on the same planet as a football move. 

How many on target? Peru 3 on target Australia 2..more telling stat.

TO be effective there has to be a right time and place for this type of move. The move is out of place and accomplishes nothing.

Back to the drawing board Australia. Wingers and strikers need a huge looking @ in very major detail. 

Because when you have players like Kruse who are through on goal but still refuse to shoot sort of hurts the on target metric but is still a clear chance.

True but they had those moments as well..as did denmark as did france

Guerrero's shot was heading from Ryan until it hit Milligan.

Today was like Norway. Nothing went out way. The highlights show we were up there. Had we been ruthless, clinical and all those others words...... 

Far out, now have to wait another 4 years to try again. Feels like a lifetime away. I don't know if I can be bothered going through the whole cycle again only for this shit to happen again. Fuck the socceroos. I had faith and they let me down. Fucking losers.