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Redcarded - 13 Dec 2017 10:29 PM
Neither could Arnold. I'm not sure who could ever do all of those things on the list that Fozz mentioned. So, genuinely would like to know who he, or any other really properly football schooled person thinks could

Ange.
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lebo_roo - 14 Dec 2017 12:15 AM
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Ange.

I think Fozz before has waxed about what Bielsa has brought to the game, especially during Bielsa's stints with Chile and Atletico Bilbao. So I think it's safe to say, he's a fan of Bielsa atleast. And indeed, Bielsa brought some of what Fozz described to Chile, taking charge of the whole set-up, bringing through a new generation, introducing a new, pro-active and attacking style and leaving that legacy with Chilean NT football. One of Bielsa's limitations may be his relative lack English as far as I know and the instability of his recent gigs can be a worry as he seems inflexible,  can clash with those above or take time to adjust in new scenarios? Primarily though, Bielsa's value in the market, his wage demands may put of the idea of hiring him for as long-term as both parties would like. I think we can barely afford Bielsa for the World Cup, let alone for a 4 year cycle - though I hope I'm wrong there.
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Redcarded - 13 Dec 2017 7:47 PM
Tend to agree with Fozz. Would be genuinely interested to know who Fozz or Tim Palmer or Kate Cohen rate as genuine contenders for the job to tick all of these fozz mentions

I'll take their opinion more than a Robbie Slater or Simon Hill etc.

They know what we need going forward, we have to remember this is a technical decision as much as a personal decision, we need someone that can add value to what Ange has done in the last 4 years.
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Barca4Life - 14 Dec 2017 1:21 AM
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I'll take their opinion more than a Robbie Slater or Simon Hill etc.

They know what we need going forward, we have to remember this is a technical decision as much as a personal decision, we need someone that can add value to what Ange has done in the last 4 years.

And if they have sorted or are sorting the criteria they require and are seeking to narrow down that list according to those requirements, then surely that will point them to the right candidates?! Money can be a limiting factor though and Arnold, presented as the best of the local options in-terms of his club success, could be seen as 'the cheap option' - but if so, that's quite disappointing. What Ange established, must be continued. Ange finally carried out successfully, the style we've long been seeking to implement  since the Technical reforms. It's just starting to take root now, with the players coming through and newer breed of coaches. But they aren't quite there yet and the likes of Poppa and Ange and only just starting to trail-blaze with gigs overseas and in-time Muscat, Okon, Aloisi and others need to follow them. Ange changed the whole league with his team's style of play and that took him to the NT. Arnie may be leading standard bearing teams too, but style wise it's been nothing revolutionary and as-much if not more to do with recruiting and good off-field conditioning and management. It may be all-about results, and Arnie has that, but it's also about more than results as Ange always preached.
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GloryPerth - 14 Dec 2017 1:29 AM
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And if they have sorted or are sorting the criteria they require and are seeking to narrow down that list according to those requirements, then surely that will point them to the right candidates?! Money can be a limiting factor though and Arnold, presented as the best of the local options in-terms of his club success, could be seen as 'the cheap option' - but if so, that's quite disappointing. What Ange established, must be continued. Ange finally carried out successfully, the style we've long been seeking to implement  since the Technical reforms. It's just starting to take root now, with the players coming through and newer breed of coaches. But they aren't quite there yet and the likes of Poppa and Ange and only just starting to trail-blaze with gigs overseas and in-time Muscat, Okon, Aloisi and others need to follow them. Ange changed the whole league with his team's style of play and that took him to the NT. Arnie may be leading standard bearing teams too, but style wise it's been nothing revolutionary and as-much if not more to do with recruiting and good off-field conditioning and management. It may be all-about results, and Arnie has that, but it's also about more than results as Ange always preached.

He is by far the best local candidate in his methods, they work a treat.

But the overall discussion should be about who can take over, whom will continue the work that Ange has left ie.Ange laid the seeds now we need someone to water them to let it grow. 

We never know what the criteria is from the FFA, that would tell a lot. 

If based on identity standpoint Arnie would mean the wrong direction





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Ange wanted this team to not just turn up at a World Cup, but perform and leave an impression at it. Really challenge all-comers with that pro-active, attacking style that has been refined over the four year cycle. It's still disappointing Ange left, but all the more reason we need to continue that trend best we can. It will turn out badly otherwise and then we'll have to recover and start all-over again with another new coach, post World Cup/leading into the Asian Cup. It will be a disaster and the new coach starting over and just trying to manage the group, throwing in whatever pragmatic tactics - whether it be a more random Foreigner or Arnie, they will go pragmatic. This is why the criteria and those involved in the selection process are important as from all those candidates, there are surely some who can take this team and have them still performing with that pro-active, pressing and possessive, quick-transitioning and attacking style. Part and parcel of this is a coach who can believe in the players as Ange did - IF a coach is prepared to utilise the players in a similar fashion, then he will as be putting that belief in them and this group in-turn will respond and then the World Cup 2018 could see something special from this side. 
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Still think Karanka is best option, knows english lower leagues well.. spent time at real madrid.. plays an open attacking style. Still young and ambitious.
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Ralf Rangnick linked with the job.Developed Hoffenehim and Leipzig to powerhouses in Germany
Interesting that Arnold was linked then denied contact the same as Scolari



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The list of coaches interested in leading Australia at next year's FIFA World Cup continues to grow with veteran English managers Harry Redknapp and Tony Pulis both throwing their hats in the ring.

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/12/14/redknapp-and-pulis-join-list-coaches-interested-socceroos-job





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Poppa has put his hand up

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Bielsa is now free..

http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-dream-coaching-candidate-marcelo-bielsa-parts-ways-with-ligue-1-club-lille/news-story/b3f7d19369c569ff8224c2be7fb7bc41


 




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jaymz - 15 Dec 2017 11:50 PM
Poppa has put his hand up

He should feel free to put it down again because it's not happening. 


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I am sure he is not free, I doubt the FFA could afford him.
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FFA should really go for broke. He could have a bigger impact than hiddink if they can get him for a cycle

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How closely have people really looked at Bielsa's managerial record? He is clearly a good coach, and an even better coach of coach's, but for a manager of 20 plus years there isn't a lot of standout performances there. Chile played good football but he did have the start of their golden generation to work with, he probably underachieved with Argentina, and had poor times at Marseille, Lille and Lazio for differing reasons. He also seems to be a pretty volatile character.
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Bielsa will make us play hard taka
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I would advocate very few coaches from abroad for the Socceroos top job on the basis that the vast majority have little to contribute other than short-term management of the World Cup.
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We would be better off in most cases building the capacity of our own coaching talent.

However, there is a small pool of coaches with the ability to take our football forward, and Argentine Marcelo Bielsa is at the top of the list.

Essentially, people need to remember that with a small playing population we are unlikely to ever win and reach number one by copying and ingesting like for like. We will need to find our own indigenous way of playing, we will need to be different, to innovate and find our key competitive advantages.

Yes, people are struggling with the demands along the way but that is natural as we all like to feel comfortable and that we’re on the right path, and only short term results can give people that sort of comfort. This is why many are calling for safe options, to forego any thought of the future, to forsake any long term planning.

This is what 99 per cent of nations do because administrators the world over are in precarious positions, feel the need to protect their jobs and consistently take the safe option which takes them nowhere, except to stay in a job.

Only 8 nations have ever won the World Cup. How is Australia supposed to ever upset the entrenched bias towards bigger nations with immense football economies if we do not break out in a different direction?

Sameness is death for us.

Heavy-hitters meet to ramp up search for Socceroos coach
The quest to find a new Socceroos coach takes a significant step on Monday as Australia greats Stan Lazaridis, Mark Bresciano and Mark Schwarzer convene with other members of FFA's advisory panel to sift through a raft of candidates.

Hiddink brought new thinking, off the back of which new plans were made. This was a hugely positive step, but by now our own thinking should have taken over, our own research, our own mentality and capacity for innovation and the national plan should be evolving into something exceptionally good and proprietary.

I don’t see that happening presently and this needs to be rectified.

The point being that Bielsa demonstrated the ability to change elements of football globally, he changed Chile’s football destiny and spawned a generation of coaches along the way.

This is the thinking we need.

Sampaoli, Pocchetino, even Guardiola were heavily influenced by Bielsa, and Guardiola represents the nexus of two schools of thought that Australia is trying to assimilate - between Bielsa’s analytical, action and movement-based work and Cruyff and Spain’s global, game based model with constant decisions and learning through problems.

I have seen a considerable amount of Bielsa’s work with Chile, all of which was filmed for the Federation to implement at youth level and it is highly analytical, has extraordinary depth go analysis of opponents and solution planning and implementation, is a different way of thinking which will add to our national thought base and is predicated on the two things we love and inherently represent us, aggressively and attack.

Chile were never supposed to dominate the big guns of South America, this was at the extremes of the range of possibilities, yet they committed to a new direction and reaped the dividends because most nations have no plan, and remain in the safe zone.

As hard as it is, we need to plan for 15 years away, not 6 months, and keep learning and evolving quicker than any other nation.

Lille sack Bielsa to end failed experiment
Lille have called time on Marcelo Bielsa's ill-fated spell in charge of the Ligue 1 club.

The committee tasked with finding the next coach would be derelict in their duty if they did not approach Bielsa to ascertain his availability and interest. The investment would be considerable but what price do we place on moving forward quickly and developing a competitive advantage?

Bielsa is a fundamentalist who works one way, irrespective of the context, and is prepared to wear a failure like Lille to implement his football.

He needs the playing resources to be effective. We have young, aggressive, talented players capable of playing with high intensity and Australians learn and adapt more quickly than any. These qualities make us fertile ground for Bielsa’s work.

Having been in Lille recently, I have been in contact with people close to him and they tell me he would be open to an approach. I have made this known to FFA's Head of National Performance Luke Casserly, who is part of the nine-man selection panel which met today.
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Louis van Gaal has emerged as a genuine contender to manage Australia at the 2018 World Cup

DAVID DAVUTOVIC, Herald Sun Subscriber only
  • WORLD coaching giant Louis van Gaal has emerged as a genuine contender for the vacant Socceroos coaching post.The Dutchman, who has won Champions League crown with Ajax, has not coached since he was sacked as Manchester United coach in 2016 after winning the FA Cup.The Sunday Herald-Sun understands that FFA has made contact with van Gaal, who has expressed his interest in the job.SACKED: PAYOUT TO HELP SOCCEROOS SNARE BIELSANEW JOB: POSTECOGLOU HIRED BY JAPANESE GIANTSCUP DRAW: SOCCEROOS FACE STERN TEST IN RUSSIAAnother globally recognised coaching star Marcelo Bielsa is also believed to be interested to lead Australia at Russia 2018 after becoming available last month.Football Federation Australia refused to comment when contacted, indicating that they were working through the process and did not want to offer a running commentary.Former Germany coach Jurgen Klinsmannformer Dutch coach Bert van Marwijk and former Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari have also been linked with the job.
    Louis van Gaal and Ange Postecoglou coaching against each other at the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.
    The FFA advisory panel, which includes Socceroos legends Mark Bresciano, Mark Schwarzer and Stan Lazaridis, and the consultancy firm SRi Executive have held formal talks in the last week to discuss candidates.Socceroos assistant Ante Milicic has also been interviewed, but it’s understood that he has been ruled out as a contender.Sydney FC coach Graham Arnold is still favoured among the local candidates.Van Gaal, 66, and Bielsa, 62, are in the twilight of their illustrious coaching careers but view the Socceroos as an enticing project.He won the Champions League with a youthful Ajax side in 1995 and enjoyed great success at Barcelona (two titles), AZ Alkmaar (one) and Bayern Munich (one).Van Gaal’s Holland finished third at the 2014 FIFA World Cup, beating Brazil 3-0 in the playoff after losing the semi-final to Argentina on penalties.
    Marcelo Bielsa during his time with Athletic Club Bilbao.
    He orchestrated a flawless group phase, headlined by the 5-1 romp of Spain and a late comeback to secure a 3-2 win against the Socceroos.Bielsa held talks with FFA years ago before Holger Osieck was appointed.The Argentine officially left French club Lille a fortnight ago.Pep Guardiola regards Bielsa, who has had great success coaching Chile, Argentina and Athletic Bilbao, as a huge mentor.Both van Gaal and Bielsa are strong personalities who have a very clear vision of how they want the game to be played and love throwing youngsters in.They are exponents of a dynamic, attacking, possession-based brand of soccer consistent with the philosophy Ange Postecoglou has instilled over the last four years.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos/louis-van-gaal-has-emerged-as-a-genuine-contender-to-manage-australia-at-the-2018-world-cup/news-story/68be8e241f166779ee56a6760411410e


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    As the fight for the Socceroos’ coaching position heats up, we look at the five men who are realistically in the running for the job - and a few more who almost certainly aren't.
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    19 DEC 2017 - 12:36 PM  UPDATED 19 DEC 2017 - 12:36 PM

    Football Federation Australia claims to have received over 200 applications from around the world, but the truth is that 99 per cent of those applications will go directly into the shredder without a second look. 

    For a job such as this, the best candidates almost certainly won’t apply: they will get approached by the nine-man selection panel – perhaps why the panel includes a professional head-hunter in its ranks. 

    We look at the few who are genuinely set to be in the running and would be open to taking on what is now the most important job in Australian sport. 

    The Local Legend: Graham Arnold

    Pros: With four grand finals to his name, Arnold rivals Ange Postecoglou as the A-League's best-ever coach and his current Sydney FC side are virtually unbeatable. They will surely win the championship this season if Arnold remains in charge. 

    Cons: In an online poll, 77 per cent of fans rejected the idea of Arnold becoming national coach. The backlash towards Arnold seems fuelled by his clashes with TV hosts, referees and the FFA. Some fans claim his teams are "hard to watch", despite the goals they score. Memories of the 2007 AFC Asian Cup and 2008 Olympic Games also linger for some. 

    The quote: "There's nothing been offered so I don’t even think about that. It’s obviously flattering to be considered for the national team as a proud Australian. But I have a contract with Sydney FC," – Arnold, last week. 

    Arnold dismisses report of Socceroos offer
    Graham Arnold has shut down a report he's been offered the Socceroos job and reiterated he's heard nothing from Football Federation Australia.

    Final word: Remains the favourite and is on close terms with the selection panel. But he’s not enjoying the ongoing speculation. Sydney FC are also rightfully reluctant to release him and he won’t accept anything less than total control. Incorrect leaks about his pending appointment only muddied the waters.

    The Man-in-Waiting: Tony Popovic 

    Pros: Performed miracles with Western Sydney Wanderers, making three grand finals in his tenure. Also showed he could go beyond total-defence to an offensive mindset in the 2015-16 campaign. And he won the AFC Champions League – all in his first job in charge and largely with recycled players. 

    Cons: Circumstances conspired against him at Karabukspor, but his win-loss record prior to being sacked is one he won’t be proud of. Some will question whether it's too early in his career for the top job. 

    The quote: "I certainly wouldn't rule it out. If I get a call, if I said I'd say no, I'd be lying," – Popovic, last week. 

    Right ambition but wrong club ends Popovic's dream
    And so Australian football’s Everest – the local coach who goes to a major overseas league and becomes truly successful – remains unconquered.

    Final word: Odds-on to be the national coach within the next 15 years and given he’s out of contract, he has to be in the mix. This job isn't beyond him at 44 years of age, but is it worth risking his development now when he’s only going to mature even further in the years to come? 

    The Game Changer: Ralf Rangnick 

    Pros: Named as Germany’s manager of the year this week, Rangnick is at the peak of his powers. His philosophy is highly advanced yet easily understood: intelligently press the opposition, then attack at speed. This has led to an unprecedented six promotions and extraordinary Bundesliga success with Hoffenheim and RB Leipzig.

    Pleasingly, he specialises in making average teams out-perform expectations. He could also get Australia access to Leipzig’s new $50 million "trainingszentrum" – considered one of the world’s best facilities – to prepare for Russia 2018.

    Cons: He's already knocked back Everton and Belgium. Rangnick this week acknowledged Australia hasn’t tabled an offer, so the selection panel would need to get the wheels moving. His club would also have to approve, but given he's now the sporting director rather than first-team coach, it's not impossible. 

    German mastermind Ralf Rangnick lands on Socceroos’ radar
    He might have rejected Everton and Belgium in recent times – and very nearly took England’s top job – but taking Australia to a World Cup could be the challenge that lures in-demand German coach Ralf Rangnick.

    Quote: "Rangnick would be perfect for this team, even if it is just for the short term. Tactically, he is highly astute,” – Ante Jukic, journalist. 

    Final word: If you want to see how he'd coach the Socceroos, look at the much-celebrated 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup match against Chile. That’s Rangnick’s blueprint (minus the yellow cards). Few foreigners have a tactical strategy that would align so naturally well with Australia’s best attributes in such a short time-frame. 

    The Mad Scientist: Marcelo Bielsa

    Pros: Bielsa eats, sleeps and breathes the game with a maniacal commitment. His preparation notes could fill the National Library. His 3-3-1-3 formation has traces of how football might be played 50 years from now. So far ahead of his time that he’s probably under-appreciated now. A brilliant mind. 

    Cons: A human volcano capable of exploding anytime, anywhere. Let’s take his last four jobs: sacked as Lille manager after six months. Fought with management at Olympique Marseille during his single year in charge and quit. Poor results at Atletico Bilbao saw him let go after just two seasons. In 2016, he had 48 hours in charge of Lazio – quitting because they didn’t sign any players. He'd also need to take an astronomical pay cut. How could he quickly implement his complex structures with a non Spanish-speaking team? 

    The quote: "The question is: is he really as mad as he is portrayed? "No," says Atletico Bilbao forward Iker Muniaín. "He is madder." – The Guardian, 2012. 

    Why Bielsa is the best candidate for the Socceroos
    I would advocate very few coaches from abroad for the Socceroos top job on the basis that the vast majority have little to contribute other than short-term management of the World Cup.

    Final word: No coach would divide the football community – indeed the entire nation – quite like Bielsa. SBS chief football analyst Craig Foster has already demanded that the FFA call him. Others have warned that he represents a ticking time-bomb. A risk-reward proposition like no other.

    The Veteran Star: Luiz Felipe Scolari 

    Pros: Has won a FIFA World Cup and boasts more big tournament experience than anyone else. Is coming off three league titles in China with Asia's richest club, Guangzhou Evergrande.

    Cons: His last major international coaching job saw his Brazilian team fold 7-1 against Germany in the 2014 World Cup semi-final and smacked 3-0 by the Netherlands in the third place play-off. At 69, this would be his 27th senior coaching job. A journeyman who relies on great players - and huge operating budgets - rather than modern tactics. 

    The quote: "You need to be able to take the whole country forward. That's what we need. It's not a simple matter to find somebody like that and I very much doubt that's Scolari," – Craig Foster. 

    Final word: It got people talking but for the wrong reasons. Scolari's link comes from an ambitious agent in Brazil trying to drum up a story. That’s where the interest should start – and end. 

    And the others … 

    Bert van Marwijk did well to get Saudi Arabia through a tough World Cup qualifying group that included Australia. Made the World Cup final with the Netherlands in 2010 with his controversial ugly-first approach, then went pointless at EURO 2012. Worth examining but for a country that needs inspiration – in tactics and leadership – you won't find it here. Not the right fit. 

    Jurgen Klinsmann has some admirers but his managerial ability remains in question. For every highlight, there’s been an equal lowlight. Did take the USA to the quarter-finals in 2014 but his record since then has been extremely poor and after five years, and too many baffling decisions, US fans angrily demanded his sacking. Australia needs better. 

    Americans warn against hiring Klinsmann as Socceroos coach
    American fans have taken to social media to warn Australia against hiring Jurgen Klinsmann as Socceroos coach.

    Sven-Goran Eriksson was once the hottest name in Serie A when he did the unthinkable and took Lazio to the Scudetto in 2000. He did reasonably well with England thereafter, but his record in the decades since has never gone even close to those heights and he's never lasted longer than two years anywhere. Not even in remote contention.

    Names like Gianni De Biasi, Christoph Daum, Guus Hiddink, Harry Redknapp, Tony Pulis and Slavoljub Muslin have all been linked but appear to be the work of imaginative local media or publicity-hungry agents.




    https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/12/19/lowdown-top-socceroos-coaching-candidates

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    Van Gaal please 😁
    As high potential as Bielsa minus the crazy.
    Probably would never happen. But I’d take him even if only for the World Cup.
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    Ralf rangnick imo. Done alot with not much.
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    Go Rangnick for the WC. It just works. Let him do it ‘part-time’ from germany like Guus did in 06 (most of our friendlies will be in Europe anyway) with Arnie* in tow and taking over post WC. Let’s him finish the season with SFC, gets him exposure to another WC without the pressure and he gets a clean slate after. If Ralf fucks up it doesn’t impact on Arnold, and if he goes good he’s taking over a team in good shape/form/spirit etc for AC and next WC cycle.

    And It shouldn’t cost the earth if he’s not leaving Leipzig and it’s only for 4-5 months.

    And his all-attack systems should go okay with our current team.

    There’s virtually no down-side. Notwithstanding what you might think of GA as Roos manager.

    * Assuming Arnold will be next long-term appointment.


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    jas88 - 14 Dec 2017 9:43 AM
    Still think Karanka is best option, knows english lower leagues well.. spent time at real madrid.. plays an open attacking style. Still young and ambitious.

    Did you actually watch Middlesbrough play? Just because he is Spanish doesn't mean he isn't defensively minded
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    phutbol - 26 Dec 2017 12:57 AM
    Go Rangnick for the WC. It just works. Let him do it ‘part-time’ from germany like Guus did in 06 (most of our friendlies will be in Europe anyway) with Arnie* in tow and taking over post WC. Let’s him finish the season with SFC, gets him exposure to another WC without the pressure and he gets a clean slate after. If Ralf fucks up it doesn’t impact on Arnold, and if he goes good he’s taking over a team in good shape/form/spirit etc for AC and next WC cycle. And It shouldn’t cost the earth if he’s not leaving Leipzig and it’s only for 4-5 months. And his all-attack systems should go okay with our current team. There’s virtually no down-side. Notwithstanding what you might think of GA as Roos manager. * Assuming Arnold will be next long-term appointment.

    Agree with this. Rangnick or hiddink in short term with Arnold as assistant before Arnie takes the full role
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    Bunch of Hacks - 27 Dec 2017 1:57 AM
    jas88 - 14 Dec 2017 9:43 AM

    Did you actually watch Middlesbrough play? Just because he is Spanish doesn't mean he isn't defensively minded

    Former assistant to Mourinho and Ancelotti so I assumed so... how many players we got in the team that can actually trap and pass the ball with relative ease? 2-3?
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    jas88 - 27 Dec 2017 9:18 AM
    Bunch of Hacks - 27 Dec 2017 1:57 AM

    Former assistant to Mourinho and Ancelotti so I assumed so... how many players we got in the team that can actually trap and pass the ball with relative ease? 2-3?

    Exactly former assistant to mourinho. As a Middlesbrough fan I can tell you he is a very defensively minded park the bus then counter attack coach. Massive question marks over his man management also with lots of negative grumblings. If we are wanting to continue ange' s philosophy he is definitely not the answer and even if we aren't he still isn't the right option

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