FFA announces Hyundai A-League expansion (2019/20 season)


FFA announces Hyundai A-League expansion (2019/20 season)

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Do you hear voices Midfielder??
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Barca4Life - 16 Feb 2018 3:48 PM
Band-aid solution for our problems in the end, expansion was overdue but the FFA are missing the bigger picture here, where is the direction in the game for the next 10 to 20 years? How or if when will the 2nd division and pro-rel come into play, they talked about the operating model but with little to no information on how this all looks like.

How do we connect the A-league with the NPL model and onto the grassroots with our ever large grassroots community? (which has been mentioned about 33 times by the FFA) 

They mention expansion because of poor metrics and crowds? Copy and paste this and show this to aspiring business students and what a reactive organisation looks like. 



The plan for the next 10 to 20 years is rightly the job of the FFA once the congress is expanded.  This proposal gets the ball rolling again.  Of course we could wait for the new congress to be set up, elect a new board and wait an extra couple of years while they get up to speed and then announce expansion.
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Benjamin - 16 Feb 2018 3:47 PM
Interesting that they announce the long delayed expansion just as the FIFA execs are about to arrive and question, amongst other things, the slow progress of the game...

No doubt they will have their hand-picked, preferred 'bids' already selected (rumours earlier in the week that a South Sydney option has already been agreed) - and will push them through before FIFA removes them from power.

Is that what FIFA and AFC among for or will they only be concerned with expanding the congress and getting a new board elected?
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Expansion is great and all but I won't be satisfied until we have a full pyramid. I haven't attended an A-league game in years and I don't plan to until it changes.
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Angus - 16 Feb 2018 5:29 PM
Gyfox - 16 Feb 2018 5:24 PM

I wonder if there have been any group of consultants who, when consulted, advised spending less on consultancy?

Depends what the answer you paid them for was.

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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theFOOTBALLlover - 16 Feb 2018 5:36 PM
Expansion is great and all but I won't be satisfied until we have a full pyramid. I haven't attended an A-league game in years and I don't plan to until it changes.

Right. Because taking your ball and going home is always successful in getting what you want. I sincerely hope your diligent self-sacrifice is causing waves in the halls of the FFA as we metaphorically speak.

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walnuts - 16 Feb 2018 4:02 PM
Tom AUFC - 16 Feb 2018 3:28 PM
From the release:  

The Board also agreed in principle to create a new corporate framework for the A-League/W-League which could give clubs more input over the running of the league and potentially provide new investment opportunities for existing and new clubs.It is an important step towards a new operating model, on which FFA management has been working for more than a year. 


Its a new structure and new model.


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Waz - 16 Feb 2018 5:19 PM
@ bluebird Where do all these players come from (all 30 of them plus 10 visa players). Well the NPL can provide some, it’s awash with talent isn’t it? There’s over 100 Aussie’s playing professional football overseas, some of those will come back?There’s a massive youth population coming through and aren’t we always saying give youth a go? If we can’t find 30 Aussie’s for two new teams we can pack up now ... getting players will be easy. Are the fans there is the big question?

Its not finding 36 Aussies for 2 new teams

Its about them using the salary cap to poach players from other clubs and the other clubs having to fill the gap with NPL and youth league signings

It means the quality of the top goes down a notch with every team introduced




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Conveniently time for the next Congress meeting thingy, they told us expansion was to happen this season a few years ago, then went quite.
It's all just words to win over FIFA favour. 
What ever happened to the entry criteria that was due last March ? 
Where is the new financial model?
Oh where is the marketing, and the crowds for that matter. Seriously, FFA just sit on their hands unless they want something, like a new TV deal, they pulled out all stops with that caper.
I call bullshit!
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@ Bluebird

Okay, get that. I’d say two things - first off if that happens it’s a price worth paying for expansion and secondly the fix is more foreign coaches and not the recent trend of jobs for the Aussie boys. Good coaching will keep standards up.
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I am waiting to see the reaction on here if the two new teams fail like GCU and NQF.

I seem to remember that all the experts were crowing over these two when it was announced.

I do want to one day see the A League at 16 teams.
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Angus - 16 Feb 2018 5:40 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 16 Feb 2018 5:36 PM

Right. Because taking your ball and going home is always successful in getting what you want. I sincerely hope your diligent self-sacrifice is causing waves in the halls of the FFA as we metaphorically speak.

If people want change, they have to do it with their feet. If the FFA had a lot more people turn away from the A-league (not football - I still contribute to the game through coaching), they'd actually start to listen. 
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This could just be BS talk like all of the other times.

If fox is picking the expansion it will be south china fc and bris 2, followed by north sydney and melbourne heart, followed by east sydney and melbourne central city fc.....
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Angus - 16 Feb 2018 5:40 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 16 Feb 2018 5:36 PM

Right. Because taking your ball and going home is always successful in getting what you want. I sincerely hope your diligent self-sacrifice is causing waves in the halls of the FFA as we metaphorically speak.

The only thing the FFA has ever listened to

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Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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theFOOTBALLlover - 16 Feb 2018 5:36 PM
Expansion is great and all but I won't be satisfied until we have a full pyramid.

I haven't attended an A-league game in years and I don't plan to until it changes.

#MeToo

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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hotrod - 16 Feb 2018 3:36 PM
OK, peoples.

12 teams.

How many rounds?

Surely it has to be 33+finals.

They can't be that stupid to keep it a 27 round league.

The source of much discontent and perceived illegitamcy of the HAL with Eurosnobs is that the league follows the AFL model instead of a proper football league structure. Implementing an unbalanced fixture would utterly finish people off IMO.
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bluebird - 16 Feb 2018 5:46 PM
Waz - 16 Feb 2018 5:19 PM

Its not finding 36 Aussies for 2 new teams

Its about them using the salary cap to poach players from other clubs and the other clubs having to fill the gap with NPL and youth league signings

It means the quality of the top goes down a notch with every team introduced

36 Aussies?
More like 26 Aussies, 5 Spaniards, 3 Englishmen, a Serb and a Kiwi ?


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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 16 Feb 2018 5:55 PM
I am waiting to see the reaction on here if the two new teams fail like GCU and NQF.

I seem to remember that all the experts were crowing over these two when it was announced.

I do want to one day see the A League at 16 teams.

You sound like you want two new teams to fold more than you want 16 teams.

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Canberra's A-League franchise hopes boosted as FFA approve expansion

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/act-sport/canberras-aleague-franchise-hopes-boosted-as-ffa-approve-expansion-20180216-h0w7ry.html


😂
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Good that its being mentioned again but Ill beleive it when I see it. Too many false dawns

ARNIE= LEGEND

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There's talk of a Auckland bid going through for the 12th team. Hope its works out as Nix need a derby!.

Wellington Phoenix FC

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Well it took people voting with their feet and tv sets to make FFA actually do something.But could this be more lip service and chook feeding?

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crimsoncrusoe - 16 Feb 2018 8:14 PM
Well it took people voting with their feet and tv sets to make FFA actually do something.But could this be more lip service and chook feeding?

On current form, we only need one guess.
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Southern Expansion
Brisbane City Gladiators/Brisbane Strikers/Brisbane Red Bulls

They will be the expansion teams. PERHAPS Tasmania will come in the future to replace Wellington if they get the boot. Although based on anecdotal evidence and other murmurings it appears Tasmania has been told not to bother.
Geelong and Casey-Dandenong are probable in the future round of expansion because they are near major markets and can be counted in the viewership and other metrics, which the FFA and Foxtel love. Similarly, Ipswich (Western Pride) and SW Sydney/Campbelltown are also likely because they add to Foxtels favoured markets.
South Melbourne and Wollongong Wolves (two existing clubs that could enter the A-League next season if they were allowed) will be shafted. As will Canberra, Sunshine Coast, and Cairns, all of which could support a team in some capacity but will never get looked at because of "metrics".
This is the reality we are in.      

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apillay12 - 16 Feb 2018 4:51 PM
Surely the Gong gets a team

Amen

Doubt it tho, it'll be Southern Sydney and they'll announce they're supported by the Wollongong area, when it will be nothing further from the truth.

Unless it breathes, smells and plays solely in Wollongong, it's not from Wollongong, and won't have my support.
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True holding bigfielder which is why a second tier is so critical.

If Cairns, Gold Coast, Canberra, Tasmania and the like can’t get a look in to the top tier. They need a pathway to develop its local talent under sustainable circumstances
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RoyalDave - 16 Feb 2018 6:55 PM
bluebird - 16 Feb 2018 5:46 PM

36 Aussies?
More like 26 Aussies, 5 Spaniards, 3 Englishmen, a Serb and a Kiwi ?


And we are the punchline.
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Fish where the fish are.
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paladisious - 16 Feb 2018 7:20 PM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 16 Feb 2018 5:55 PM

You sound like you want two new teams to fold more than you want 16 teams.

Au contraire, only talking from experience. Since the A league started 5 teams new teams have been introduced with varying degrees of success, or just downright failure.
Out of the 5 you could argue that WSW have been the only success. GCU, WP, NQF and Melbourne Heart/ city have been failures , especially City with all the money they have.
But i am waiting to see who they bring in. I just don't see who is going to improve the league as a spectacle.
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