Paul01
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FIFA requirements
It will be left among them to decide the identity of the independent chair by a unanimous vote. FIFA, however, has instructed that the person must have a strong track record in legal and governance issues, preferably in sport, and experience in mediation and negotiation.
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+x[quote] It will be left among them [i.e other 7 board members] to decide the identity of the independent chair by a unanimous vote.[quote]
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So undefined 4 state feds pick the deciding voter Let's play guess what happens next
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Midfielder
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+xI can't see this working. We are wasting time as we go back around in circles. At the end of the day when this working committee fails we will have a normalisation committee. No sure if that is right you may be selling FIFA short. Taking part of the announcement it reads. """The CRWG will concludeits mandate and submit its proposal to FIFA and the AFC by 31 July 2018. The proposal will be subsequently submitted for adoption to an FFA Special General Meeting by no later than 7 September2018 .""""
That reads to me they want the CRCW to draft a new governance and for FFA to adopt it.
That reads to me the CRWC needs to be formed and have the changes ready to bemade by 31 July so 4 months, and then for FFA to adopt what the CRWC present..... with FFA granted 5 weeks to call whatever meeting are needed to adopt thenew procedures
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bettega
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+xI can't see this working. We are wasting time as we go back around in circles. At the end of the day when this working committee fails we will have a normalisation committee. FIFA had the option of going straight to the normalisation committee. They were spooked by Lowy. There's nothing in any of this which suggests that FIFA will have the stomach for a normalisation committee. Lowy has successfully pushed everything out to the next AGM. He'll be voted in pursuant to the current constitution, and we'll be back to square one, having to use the current constitution to make the necessary changes to the same constitution, meaning nothing will happen unless one of the bigger states fall back in line and agree to minimal changes.
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Midfielder
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Some names for the chair Football folk with a sports background
Nick Tana, Nick Griner, Brendan Schwab,
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Waz
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@ RBB
It can only work if the State Federations play fair, if not it’s normalisation post WC
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Gyfox
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+xAnyone who knows Jack Reilly would know that he stood up to Frank Lowy. He doesn’t toe the Lowy line.I believe he was called a liar by Frank Snr There is no way the State Feds would let him become chair of the working group because he wants to get rid of all the State Feds.
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Picking up key bits from a number of releases. Who is going to be appointed? It’s going to be an eight seat working group consisting of:- Four seats for member federations Two seats for club representatives One seat for a Professional Footballer's Association (PFA) representative One seat for an Independent Chairperson. Chair, as provided by FIFA, are that whoever the appointment is, they can't have a pre-existing relationship with FFA. It will be left among them [i.e other 7 board members] to decide the identity of the independent chair by a unanimous vote. What will the CRWG do? The CRWG will conclude its mandate and submit its proposal to FIFA and the AFC by 31 July 2018. The proposal will be subsequently submitted for adoption to an FFA Special General Meeting by no later than 7 September 2018." Interesting side bit.
Submit by 31 July, and decide BY 7 September, but could also be 1 August [highly doubtful] but we may not have to wait the extra two and a bit months.
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RBBAnonymous
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I can't see this working. We are wasting time as we go back around in circles. At the end of the day when this working committee fails we will have a normalisation committee.
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bettega
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True, no shocks.
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"The CRWG will conclude its mandate and submit its proposal to FIFA and the AFC by 31 July 2018. The proposal will be subsequently submitted for adoption to an FFA Special General Meeting by no later than 7 September 2018."
That’s actually a pretty reasonable time frame. New governance structure in place by October would be a great outcome.
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+xThe member feds that voted down the congress are a minority of feds. They will be squeezed out of that 4. The independent chair will not be independent. FFA already has the working group stacked in their favour. Fuck this, the game is up. AFPCA to really get shitty Could be fireworks
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+xI think Foster would make a good chair. Love him or hate him he genuinely has the games best interest at heart. And has mediation/sports governance experience through the PFA Foster with his push for Southern Expansion would not be popular in Wollongong. How about Mal Hemmerling
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Bundoora B
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actual fifa statement http://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/news/y=2018/m=4/news=fifa-s-bureau-of-the-council-establishes-congress-review-working-group-for-footb.html"The CRWG will conclude its mandate and submit its proposal to FIFA and the AFC by 31 July 2018. The proposal will be subsequently submitted for adoption to an FFA Special General Meeting by no later than 7 September 2018."
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Bundoora B
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same article but with a video of fozz digging his boot into fifa for fucking around too much https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2018/04/04/independent-chair-lead-ffa-reform
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I think Foster would make a good chair. Love him or hate him he genuinely has the games best interest at heart. And has mediation/sports governance experience through the PFA
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Paul01
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Anyone who knows Jack Reilly would know that he stood up to Frank Lowy.
He doesn’t toe the Lowy line.
I believe he was called a liar by Frank Snr
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Waz
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@ Bohemia
I hear you, as I say the best lowy can get is three compliant states and influence over the chair. He’s locked at 4-4 on a voting basis ... next stop normalisation if that happens and things can’t move forward.
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+x@ Bohemia We’ll see but I don’t think it is. One of NSWs and VIC have to get on there by virtue of their size, my guess would be NSWs. That puts 4 votes against the FFA The independent chair has to be unanimous so it won’t be an FFA man, although a Lowy’s tentacles stretch far so FIFA will have to watch that. But even if s/he is at worst/best it’s a 4/4 tie ... FIFA is blind as a bat. They let a Gallop and Co employee walk straight in and pitch for the women's vote. After all the crap Lowy has done to get the process this far do you think organising a Lowy plant as chair is a tough task? Fuck me he'll just pull one out of the drawer in his home office.
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Waz
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@ Bohemia
We’ll see but I don’t think it is.
One of NSWs and VIC have to get on there by virtue of their size, my guess would be NSWs. That puts 4 votes against the FFA
The independent chair has to be unanimous so it won’t be an FFA man, although a Lowy’s tentacles stretch far so FIFA will have to watch that. But even if s/he is at worst/best it’s a 4/4 tie ...
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bohemia
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The member feds that voted down the congress are a minority of feds. They will be squeezed out of that 4.
The independent chair will not be independent.
FFA already has the working group stacked in their favour. Fuck this, the game is up.
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Waz
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“The working group will include four representatives of the state federations, two from the A-League clubs, one from Professional Footballers Australia (PFA) and one FFA board member. It will be left among them to decide the identity of the independent chair by a unanimous vote. FIFA, however, has instructed that the person must have a strong track record in legal and governance issues, preferably in sport, and experience in mediation and negotiation“ http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/independent-chairperson-to-lead-eightmember-panel-tasked-by-fifa-with-fixing-ffa/news-story/8a1acd1409dd744e3a3eb6589a9f6faa
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Waz
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So the EGM in September is it - that presumably changes the constitution for the new Congress, this will be in time for the November AGM. So all done and dusted by Christmas
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Gyfox
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+xI'd like Jack Reilly to chair this group. He absolutely professional. Ex FFA Board member. I think his much touted opinion on what should happen to football would bar him from being an independent chair.
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Paul01
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I'd like Jack Reilly to chair this group. He absolutely professional.
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Waz
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We need Capital Football in there, just so we get regular sms updates from all the private meetings 👍
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Gyfox
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+x+xWho picks which 4 Feds ? Who picks the Chair ? What's a 'club rep' ? I'd imagine the State federations would pick the four ... or it would be the four largest federations. FIFA appoints the Chair The Club's I'd imagine pick their rep too Would the club reps be one for A-League clubs and one for NPL clubs? If its the 4 biggest Federations its FNSW, FQld, FFV and NNSWF in that order which gives too much east coast bias. I'd expect one or two of the smaller Federations to get a seat.
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+xWho picks which 4 Feds ? Who picks the Chair ? What's a 'club rep' ? I'd imagine the State federations would pick the four ... or it would be the four largest federations. FIFA appoints the Chair The Club's I'd imagine pick their rep too
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Who picks which 4 Feds ? Who picks the Chair ? What's a 'club rep' ?
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