FIFA announces Terms of Reference for Congress Review Working Group


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Consideration of A-League expansion comes against the backdrop of the Congress Review Working Group which is meeting again in Melbourne this weekend, to nut-out the governance structure for football that is meant to be fit-for-purpose for at least the next 15-20 years.

The Working Group, chaired by former F1 senior executive Judith Griggs, is to report to FIFA by the end of July.

As well as A-League expansion, work on the introduction of a national second division is progressing with an analysis and assumptions recently sent to members of another working group looking at a national second division. 

It is understood that an independent entity to run the A-League is favoured by most Working Group members, and the A-League clubs are keen for greater expansion than that envisaged by the current FFA Board. 

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Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Blew.2 - 14 Jun 2018 6:27 AM
So the Federations do not advocate for the AAFC?

IMPORTANT NOTE FOR OUR MEMBERS.
Chairman Rabieh Krayem and Legal Advisor, Nick Galatas, met with the FFA Congress Review Working Group today, chaired by Judith Griggs, in Melbourne.It was an effective and productive meeting, where we presented our claims to be included in the Congress as well as rundown of our achievements, and had a good discussion with those present.The CRWG will continue its important work and conclude its report by the end of July according to the timeline set by FIFA and AFC. AAFC stands ready to contribute further to the work of CRWG as and when it is called upon to do so by Ms Griggs, and we look forward to the final report.

Why would they, it takes the NPL clubs out of their various jurisdictions. They look like a baby brother to a fully independent A-league.
IMO the A-league should NOT be fully independent
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So the Federations do not advocate for the AAFC?

IMPORTANT NOTE FOR OUR MEMBERS.
Chairman Rabieh Krayem and Legal Advisor, Nick Galatas, met with the FFA Congress Review Working Group today, chaired by Judith Griggs, in Melbourne.It was an effective and productive meeting, where we presented our claims to be included in the Congress as well as rundown of our achievements, and had a good discussion with those present.The CRWG will continue its important work and conclude its report by the end of July according to the timeline set by FIFA and AFC. AAFC stands ready to contribute further to the work of CRWG as and when it is called upon to do so by Ms Griggs, and we look forward to the final report.


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AAFC announced on their fakebook page that they met the CRWG today to pitch for a seat on the congress
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Then there's the next phase of crisis talks over the game's governance, instigated by FIFA, soon to be overseen by an independent mediator.

Lowy said he was hopeful rather than confident it would be resolved.

"I'm hopeful it will be resolved with a fresh approach, with a result the game can go forward with," he said.

"Having an independent chair going through and trying to break through these issues is a fair way to go about it."


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Stevens take on it all, 



"We're moving on with expansion of the game.

There are a number of detractors to that but equally you see a number of A-League chairmen in favour of what we're doing," he said.

"We're getting on with the job of expanding the game, of making next year's A-League exciting and addressing the issues that we need to, together with the clubs and (broadcaster) Fox Sports.

"It's our expectation ... next year's A-League will be much better."


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It's our expectation that notwithstanding the review process that’s going on now next year’s A-League will be much better than last year's because everyone’s working together."



Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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With CRWG is set to commence it’s meetings in Melbourne next week


https://dailyfootballshow.com/we-also-aim-to-secure-a-direct-voice-for-npl-clubs-aafc-declares-intensions-as-reform-process-kicks-into-gear/


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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Congress Review Working Group

AFPCA:

Gregg Griffin

Simon Pearce

Federations:

Football New South Wales

Football Federation South Australia

Football Federation Victoria

Football West (Western Australia)

PFA:

Brendan Schwab (unconfirmed)

FFA:

Chris Nikou  (unconfirmed)

Chairman:

Judith Griggs 

Anyone seen media confirmation for PFA and FFA   now FIFA have approved the Chair



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Interesting take on pro/rep in lower level teams


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Blew.2 - 24 May 2018 9:55 AM
TheSelectFew - 23 May 2018 8:44 PM

If promotion Relegation comes too early and the ground work is not done for a sustainable HAL and 2nd tier to stand alone without P/R. Then they will need to develop a drop down subsidy(parachute payment) to cover wages.(I doubt 2nd tier could survive fully professional)  You will get a team coming down with players on 2+ year contracts.(And club will have to carry the wage bill for 1 + years) The first year a team is promoted they may well come straight down and then under financed carry wages for 1+ years after that. (So collapse of clubs may well happen)    IMHO the 2nd tier will need 2 plus years to develop if implemented. But IMHO, only a simple fan, looking EPL for bad or worse  https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/premier-league-parachute-payments-exclusive-study-football-league-finance-money-a8255976.html  

Contracts have relegation clauses in them these days, (unless you are Sunderland and you screw up Jack Rodwell style)

and Parachute payments aren't the hardest part of introducing P&R


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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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TheSelectFew - 23 May 2018 8:44 PM
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Whats your point?

If promotion Relegation comes too early and the ground work is not done for a sustainable HAL and 2nd tier to stand alone without P/R. Then they will need to develop a drop down subsidy(parachute payment) to cover wages.(I doubt 2nd tier could survive fully professional)  You will get a team coming down with players on 2+ year contracts.(And club will have to carry the wage bill for 1 + years) The first year a team is promoted they may well come straight down and then under financed carry wages for 1+ years after that. (So collapse of clubs may well happen)    IMHO the 2nd tier will need 2 plus years to develop if implemented. But IMHO, only a simple fan, looking EPL for bad or worse  https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/premier-league-parachute-payments-exclusive-study-football-league-finance-money-a8255976.html  

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 21 May 2018 10:41 AM

Ok wrong time of day to response - But i WILL.
Promotion - Relegation (people)   who want it at any cost. (Edited)

Whats your point?


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She seems a decent choice
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2 TV channels have broadcast F1 in Australia -Ten and Fox. Was Fox the broadcaster during the ladies rien in F1 Oz?

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Have we a decider
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/former-grand-prix-ceo-lead-ffa-reform-041938231--spt.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 21 May 2018 10:41 AM
Blew.2 - 21 May 2018 5:43 AM

Who are "You people" ?

Ok wrong time of day to response - But i WILL.
Promotion - Relegation (people)   who want it at any cost. (Edited)

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Blew.2 - 21 May 2018 5:43 AM
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Because FFA will have committed to 12 teams before CRWG  get a decision.  You people will have a fit if once confirmed the APFCA go back on it.

Who are "You people" ?

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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bettega - 20 May 2018 8:31 PM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 20 May 2018 8:00 PM

if 12 teams ain't sustainable, then we're in bigger trouble than we thought

Because FFA will have committed to 12 teams before CRWG  get a decision.  You people will have a fit if once confirmed the APFCA go back on it.

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Why is 12 teams sustainable ?

if 12 teams ain't sustainable, then we're in bigger trouble than we thought
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You need (Not NZ needs/to small a market but TV needs our time slot) a sustainable A-League first and foremost, 12 teams ok. Then you need a good 2 tier structure on a solid Pro/Amateur base.
Both either totally independent or board run including an FFA member.  Then once both are working introduce Promotion and Relegation  with a drop support $ allocation.  
But your old boys club (FFA) will fight it all the way because the current system is easy finance for them! 

Why is 12 teams sustainable ?


Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Blew.2 - 20 May 2018 7:13 PM
RBBAnonymous - 20 May 2018 5:31 PM

You need (Not NZ needs/to small a market but TV needs our time slot) a sustainable A-League first and foremost, 12 teams ok. Then you need a good 2 tier structure on a solid Pro/Amateur base.
Both either totally independent or board run including an FFA member.  Then once both are working introduce Promotion and Relegation  with a drop support $ allocation.  
But your old boys club (FFA) will fight it all the way because the current system is easy finance for them! 

I'm interested in what you mean by "totally independent".  FIFA requires all leagues in Australia to be subordinate to the FFA and to comply with all FIFA, AFC and FFA statutes, regulations, decisions and instructions.  They also give the FFA responsibility to run all national competitions but the FFA can delegate  their authority to a league to run their competition.  Thats normally done by a binding agreement being reached between the two parties governing how the league is to be operated etc.  Does this arrangement meet your definition of "totally independent" or do you mean that the league is free to do what it wants?
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TheSelectFew - 20 May 2018 5:07 PM

We will eventually get to a normalisation committee and FIFA will take over. Its getting ridiculous. 

You need (Not NZ needs/to small a market but TV needs our time slot) a sustainable A-League first and foremost, 12 teams ok. Then you need a good 2 tier structure on a solid Pro/Amateur base.
Both either totally independent or board run including an FFA member.  Then once both are working introduce Promotion and Relegation  with a drop support $ allocation.  
But your old boys club (FFA) will fight it all the way because the current system is easy finance for them! 

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Midfielder - 20 May 2018 2:53 PM

It's in no ones agenda for this to fail. We need a pyramid yesterday. Expansion won't happen either at this rate.

We will eventually get to a normalisation committee and FIFA will take over. Its getting ridiculous. 







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Midfielder - 20 May 2018 2:53 PM
The announcement to form the committee was on 4 April, so counting the 4th as a day as well, thats 27 days in April, its 20 May today.

Thats 47 days on Tuesday its 7 weeks, looks from the outside getting everyone to agree the chair is impossible as each group would have their own preference.

We are starting to look a laughing stock, this is embarrassing. 

It's in no ones agenda for this to fail. We need a pyramid yesterday. Expansion won't happen either at this rate.


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The announcement to form the committee was on 4 April, so counting the 4th as a day as well, thats 27 days in April, its 20 May today.

Thats 47 days on Tuesday its 7 weeks, looks from the outside getting everyone to agree the chair is impossible as each group would have their own preference.

We are starting to look a laughing stock, this is embarrassing. 
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Midfielder - 20 May 2018 1:26 PM
When will they appoint a independent chair. Starting to become a black comedy. Soon it could become a Shakespearean tragedy.    

Agreed FIFA need to get their arse into gear .It has been slowing down the AAFCs work as well .however AAFC has made announcements that they have finalised their workshops released their findings and are looking at financial models.


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When will they appoint a independent chair. Starting to become a black comedy. Soon it could become a Shakespearean tragedy.    
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definition of the competences of the decision-making bodies
;i) to avoid conflicts of interests in decision-making

2 parts of Article 15 the FFA CEO ans A-League CEO are struggling along with 
j) legislative bodies must be constituted in accordance with the principles of representative democracy and taking into account the importance of gender equality in football 

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