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+xTV3 NZ said 3 home games in Wellington the rest to be played in Sth West Sydney. Looks to be a done deal with the merge and not selling full out. CCM Perth Brisbane
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A-League : Wellington Phoenix confirm merger talks for partnership  Photo credit: Photosport The Wellington Phoenix say they are in discussion with potential club partners, but have reaffirmed their A-League licence is not for sale. In a written statement, the struggling club admitted it was talking to "parties interested in participating in the expansion of the A-League". It didn't deny it had been involved in reported merger proposal talks with a consortium from southwestern Sydney. Football Federation Australia chief executive David Gallop confirmed he held a meeting on Friday with Phoenix chairman Rob Morrison and Gino Marra, the head of the South West Sydney FC expansion bid. News Corp Australia reported a memorandum of understanding had been signed between the two parties. "The owners have consistently maintained that they are open to external investors who could bring capital and players to the club, as well as providing professional development pathways for the players from New Zealand," it said. "Although there are currently potential options that are worth exploring... the Phoenix will not conduct any of those discussions via the media." The statement reiterated the club wasn't for sale. It said the more immediate concern was what it described as the floundering state of the A-League. "With double-digit falls in viewership levels, falling crowd numbers and all clubs losing money, there has to be a material change to the construct of the league. "The best-case scenario for the A-League clubs, including the Phoenix, is the creation of a truly independent A-League." The statement said fundamental changes were required ahead of next season to halt the decline. "Tinkering around the edges with marquee funds and the like is not sufficient." The merged team would reportedly play in black and white, but would revert to the yellow-and-black Phoenix strip for matches in Wellington. It's believed FFA looks dimly at the prospect of a merger, particularly one splitting the club's supporter base on opposite sides of the Tasman. "The proposal, which would obviously require FFA approval, needs to be considered in the context of the commercial objectives around the expansion of the league," Gallop told AAP. "To ensure that the investments made are ones that benefit the new clubs, the A-League as a whole, its current club owners and the broader game." A merger would ensure the South West Sydney FC bid wouldn't have to pay an expansion fee, which could be as high as AUS$10 million, as part of the formal process being run by FFA. Two new teams are due to join the A-League next year. AAP
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What the Wellington Phoenix need to do is sign some D-E-C-E-N-T Australian players, not sign NZ's only Professional Football Team away. Once it's gone it(the A-League) won't be coming back to these shores. As I've said before on this forum the WelNix Owners have shown absolutely "Zero' ambition. It's a pity really because they're also the Owners of the successful Hurricanes Super Rugby Franchise as well. They(the Owners) have done some good things by setting up a "useful Footballing academy there in Wellington, but they're letting down the Game here in NZ badly; the way they've handled the A-League Clubs prospects. Hey Gareth how do you expect to run our Country; if you can't run a (good) football club better than you ; and the other director's are currently managing. If it's balls you want, bring Helen Clark in the mix.
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+xWhat the Wellington Phoenix need to do is sign some D-E-C-E-N-T Australian players, not sign NZ's only Professional Football Team away. Once it's gone it(the A-League) won't be coming back to these shores. As I've said before on this forum the WelNix Owners have shown absolutely "Zero' ambition. It's a pity really because they're also the Owners of the successful Hurricanes Super Rugby Franchise as well. They(the Owners) have done some good things by setting up a "useful Footballing academy there in Wellington, but they're letting down the Game here in NZ badly; the way they've handled the A-League Clubs prospects. Hey Gareth how do you expect to run our Country; if you can't run a (good) football club better than you ; and the other director's are currently managing. If it's balls you want, bring Helen Clark in the mix. They sold there share (Hurricanes) earlier this year, Now its Phoenix's turn to sell out.
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This makes me feel sick - I thought St George Illawarra was bad
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Wow it's actually happening...
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Big fucking joke. Just approve expansion teams from Malaysia and Singapore already and finish off what credibility the league had left.
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+x+xWhat the Wellington Phoenix need to do is sign some D-E-C-E-N-T Australian players, not sign NZ's only Professional Football Team away. Once it's gone it(the A-League) won't be coming back to these shores. As I've said before on this forum the WelNix Owners have shown absolutely "Zero' ambition. It's a pity really because they're also the Owners of the successful Hurricanes Super Rugby Franchise as well. They(the Owners) have done some good things by setting up a "useful Footballing academy there in Wellington, but they're letting down the Game here in NZ badly; the way they've handled the A-League Clubs prospects. Hey Gareth how do you expect to run our Country; if you can't run a (good) football club better than you ; and the other director's are currently managing. If it's balls you want, bring Helen Clark in the mix. They sold there share (Hurricanes) earlier this year, Now its Phoenix's turn to sell out. i do wonder though, cant NZ sustain their own professional league in any sport?
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+x+x+xWhat the Wellington Phoenix need to do is sign some D-E-C-E-N-T Australian players, not sign NZ's only Professional Football Team away. Once it's gone it(the A-League) won't be coming back to these shores. As I've said before on this forum the WelNix Owners have shown absolutely "Zero' ambition. It's a pity really because they're also the Owners of the successful Hurricanes Super Rugby Franchise as well. They(the Owners) have done some good things by setting up a "useful Footballing academy there in Wellington, but they're letting down the Game here in NZ badly; the way they've handled the A-League Clubs prospects. Hey Gareth how do you expect to run our Country; if you can't run a (good) football club better than you ; and the other director's are currently managing. If it's balls you want, bring Helen Clark in the mix. They sold there share (Hurricanes) earlier this year, Now its Phoenix's turn to sell out. i do wonder though, cant NZ sustain their own professional league in any sport? Rugby could probably do it and Netball is now doing it, but overall maybe not.
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+xBig fucking joke. Just approve expansion teams from Malaysia and Singapore already and finish off what credibility the league had left. How do you feel if the Grand Final was held in either of those places? My first reaction was "what No" then I thought about it and its really not so bad.
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+x+x+x+xWhat the Wellington Phoenix need to do is sign some D-E-C-E-N-T Australian players, not sign NZ's only Professional Football Team away. Once it's gone it(the A-League) won't be coming back to these shores. As I've said before on this forum the WelNix Owners have shown absolutely "Zero' ambition. It's a pity really because they're also the Owners of the successful Hurricanes Super Rugby Franchise as well. They(the Owners) have done some good things by setting up a "useful Footballing academy there in Wellington, but they're letting down the Game here in NZ badly; the way they've handled the A-League Clubs prospects. Hey Gareth how do you expect to run our Country; if you can't run a (good) football club better than you ; and the other director's are currently managing. If it's balls you want, bring Helen Clark in the mix. They sold there share (Hurricanes) earlier this year, Now its Phoenix's turn to sell out. i do wonder though, cant NZ sustain their own professional league in any sport? Rugby could probably do it and Netball is now doing it, but overall maybe not. how many teams though?
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What a joke. FFA should not be entertaining this. -PB
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This is quite clever by Nix.
They can’t SELL the club, so they MERGE.
Then, SWSyd doesn’t need to pay the $10M licence fee to FFA, meaning FFA get screwed.
Then, in a year or two, SWSyd take full control, again without FFA getting a cent.
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+xWhat a joke. FFA should not be entertaining this. -PB Why not?
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It'll be interesting to see the wording of their license. If they've been given the right to operate the Wellington/NZ franchise, then trying to operate a franchise in Sydney may well be a breach of their agreement. For Melbournites this would be a bit like buying a McDonald's franchise in Richmond, then taking over a Burger King in the CBD and rebranding as McDonalds there as well..
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+xBig fucking joke. Just approve expansion teams from Malaysia and Singapore already and finish off what credibility the league had left. This league is only bad because people show up and watch the games. People need to stop funding their bad decisions.
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+x+xBig fucking joke. Just approve expansion teams from Malaysia and Singapore already and finish off what credibility the league had left. This league is only existing because people show up and watch the games. People need to stop funding their bad decisions. Ftfy
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+x+xBig fucking joke. Just approve expansion teams from Malaysia and Singapore already and finish off what credibility the league had left. This league is only bad because people show up and watch the games. People need to stop funding their bad decisions. Given ticket sales are handled by the clubs, going to regular season games funds the club, not the FFA. In any case, the FFA have attempted to counter the drop in crowds and ratings this season with more of same i.e. marquee fund.
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+x+x+xBig fucking joke. Just approve expansion teams from Malaysia and Singapore already and finish off what credibility the league had left. This league is only bad because people show up and watch the games. People need to stop funding their bad decisions. Given ticket sales are handled by the clubs, going to regular season games funds the club, not the FFA. So FFA don't care about attendance metrics ? *cough*WP*cough*In any case, the FFA have attempted to counter the drop in crowds and ratings this season with more of same i.e. marquee fund. Or maybe they do ?
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+x+x+x+xBig fucking joke. Just approve expansion teams from Malaysia and Singapore already and finish off what credibility the league had left. This league is only bad because people show up and watch the games. People need to stop funding their bad decisions. Given ticket sales are handled by the clubs, going to regular season games funds the club, not the FFA. So FFA don't care about attendance metrics ? *cough*WP*cough*In any case, the FFA have attempted to counter the drop in crowds and ratings this season with more of same i.e. marquee fund. Or maybe they do ? I didn't say the FFA didn't care. I'm saying not attending regular season matches hurts club owners first and foremost. The only time I'd make a conscious decision to not renew my membership would be if SFC ownership we're taking the club in the wrong direction. Ratings are a different story, but the FFA are clueless and have already indicated they intend on using the same short term solutions to "fix" the problem.
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I wonder how the "Yellow Fever" are reacting to this news. Sure most of them are a bunch of "plonkers," but there's also one or two passionate and knowledgeable football brains among them. What beats me is how the local NZFA can put Women's Football on an equal footing with men. Surely fans are more interested in the A-League than a proposed W-League?
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The most ridiculous thing I've read since Southern Expansion
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This would mean the new A-League club will be an Australian based club with ethnic roots :)
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+xThis is quite clever by Nix. They can’t SELL the club, so they MERGE. Then, SWSyd doesn’t need to pay the $10M licence fee to FFA, meaning FFA get screwed. Then, in a year or two, SWSyd take full control, again without FFA getting a cent. they werent really given other options were they? it seems like they are just winding down the club with SWS to take over. the joys of franchises.
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+xThis would mean the new A-League club will be an Australian based club with ethnic roots :) lol
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+xOnce it's gone it(the A-League) won't be coming back to these shores. One can only hope!
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What an absolute fucking abomination.
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+xIt'll be interesting to see the wording of their license. If they've been given the right to operate the Wellington/NZ franchise, then trying to operate a franchise in Sydney may well be a breach of their agreement. For Melbournites this would be a bit like buying a McDonald's franchise in Richmond, then taking over a Burger King in the CBD and rebranding as McDonalds there as well.. Franchise models have very specific contractual obligations that ensure a rogue franchisee can't threaten the whole franchise or franchisees. It's at least comforting to know that, whatever Wellington is playing at, the power is well and truly on the franchisers side. What this really comes down to is whether FFA wants Wellington out and whether they like the sound of a franchise in SWS. If they say no, Wellington's in a pretty dire situation.
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i also reckon, SWS Magpies wouldnt even get in, and the FFA gives the liscence to another firm.
if SWS dont get it, i would like another perth or brisbane side to get it
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