How is P&R working in NZ?  We should do what they're doing to grab some of that sweet sweet success.

Are they Unuk tu ?

I genuinely hope the NZFA are doing something constructive behind the scenes; even if they don't want to conduct their business in the eye of the Media.  Surely; I repeat surely there must be some well heeled Kiwi's willing to invest in NZ's Footballing future, because that's what I believe we're talking about.  Maybe, just maybe Asia is the answer to NZ's Footballing woes.

NZFA are hopeless. Amateur football over professional football all day long.

They don't have other "football" codes and they're not unique.

i reckon FIFA might have to step in, because NZ cannot sustain a professional competition on its own.

it'll look stupid if Oceania is the only continent without a professional team so i think FIFA has to do something about it

There was talk of FIFA sanctions if Nix were to be kicked out due to unfair metrics.

7/10

Bwahahaha more egg on face for the FFA if this were to eventuate

BTW you got a source?

You seem to be labouring the wrong point - Nobody is kicking the Nix out!  They are choosing to leave all by themselves.

Welnix are trying to screw over both NZ and Australia and line their pockets with dollars exchanged for broken dreams.
Meantime, NZ Football are sitting on their fat arses doing nothing.
Wellington supporters are dismayed, as they should be, but wandering about blaming the FFA for something, something, something isn't justified.

Australian Football, via the FFA and the A-League has been propping up a generation of pro football in New Zealand.  It's money, time and effort that could be invested in expanding the game in their own jurisdiction.  The pressure was growing 3 years ago and the response hasn't been great.  The FFA quite cleverly killed off the "your competition needs us" shit with the initial Southern Expansion bluff.  (Oh the hand wringing horror from Fox pundits too dumb to work it out).  Now it's clear there are nearly a dozen ready to go replacements if Welnix can't lift their game.

If their only response is to be arrogant and rude to Australian Football then sorry genuine NZ and Wellington fans, your owners can fuck themselves.  They are fucking you over but they won't get the chance to do that to their other benefactors - Australian Football.

https://www.yellowfever.co.nz/blogs/to-the-last/blog_posts/my-dinner-with-andre

That post suggest a flat denial that Welnix signed an MOU with the South Western Sydney consortium for the sale of the club.

They are suggesting the Australian media, the FFA and South Western Sydney are liars.

That's a lot of liars.

They are liars and Nix will still be around in 2years under there current name Wellington Phoenix no Sth West Sydney attached.

Well, I think its just the media (and possibly the FFA or the media speculating with the FFA ok with that) as this is what SWS Sydney tweeted:


https://twitter.com/SWSFootball/status/996716279837876226

The Nix and SWS have both denied it, seeing as those are supposed to be the two parties who are in the deal then that's conclusive.

On the YF podcast a few weeks ago Dome talked about some of the email correspondence between the Nix and the clubs they were apparently talking to, it was pretty much non existent. The only correspondence they had with the Brisbane Strikers for instance was that Brisbane had sent them an email a day before the rumors started which the Nix didn't responded to. It only takes one person trying to get the name of the club out there as a serious contender for expansion to start a rumor.

The spanner in the works is that Gallop apparently confirmed the rumors, you can only assume that his quote was misconstrued or he misunderstood something.

Not only that, SWS never made an offer.

What's happening is the Phoenix have been talking to teams for years about building a W-League side and basing it in Australia, also academies in Australia, NYL teams, etc. They're constantly looking for partnerships and this is being severely misconstrued.

If two parties wanted to do a deal under the radar and it fell through, would it not be perfectly normal for both parties to deny it ever happened? I don't think a denial is conclusive at all. Remember that if the deal for Welnix fell through they are back to square one and having to turn around the club. They're not about to say to their own fans "well, we tried cashing out but it didn't work, so how about we forget about it and get our crowds up 50% to stay in the league."

Well, then they're damned if they do and damned if they don't then aren't they? We have unsubstantiated rumors which are along the lines of plenty of other rumors which have also been proven to be false, and the quote from Gallop "confirming it" actually appears unrelated, on one hand, and we have the two parties actually involved on record saying the rumors are false on the other and you're choosing to believe the unsubstantiated rumors.

These rumors have repeatedly been proven to be false, if there's smoke there doesn't necessarily need to be a fire, could also just be some burning wacky backy.

As I said, David Dome actually shared the correspondence for the last lot of merger rumors, including the Brisbane Strikers apologising to the Phoenix for exaggerating things in the media.

Article J working well for FFA

https://twitter.com/SWSFootball/status/996716279837876226

https://www.yellowfever.co.nz/blogs/to-the-last/blog_posts/my-dinner-with-andre

Bet you the FFA know that all club officials are meeting respective expansion groups, meeting each other re the CRWG and the planning how to wrestle control of the A-League.
#FIFA want the congress of the FFA  to restructure with special mention of article 15: J
Not the FFA finest time to have the CEO stoking a fire with mis-information while actively applying for a FIFA World Cup
Don't think they are not watching Mr G and Mr O'R  

"Meetings with FFA, other clubs, prospective clubs/bidders, councils, various other bodies have and will continue to take place"
"in terms of total spend remains middle of the pack and will continue to do so at this stage."
"We know that Welnix are open to approach from new investors to spread this risk and inject capital and we also already know fairly publicly that some owners want out. "
"So while not actively seeking offers it would be irresponsible not to hear them out should they appear"
"Welnix would sell the club if a huge offer was made."

It's a fan's blog.  If you pick through the fanboyishness you can still see plenty of basis for speculation.
The wrap appears to be that they hoping for more money from Australia in the future and that if they can get an "independent" league going then feel they will get some sort of permanent lock-in.  Doesn't sound like they are overly keen for second divisions, and P&R and all the candy that 442 forum clairvoyants believe will magically fall out of a foreign controlled League and Association.

" prospective clubs/bidders,"  This is in relation to FFA expansion and not directly bidding for the NIx. But as you say anything can be read/written based on some of the info just as I think Gollop did not lie about a meeting but did not disclose the full content in context of the meeting. RM was in the forefront of the initial setup of APFCA  and to this end has most likely rubbed your national body the wrong way, so pay back is sweet for them.

WRONG!
English Super league - rugby league
not to mention all these rugby Union comps - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rugby_union_competitions#Men

  Agree and they also have short memories, when TS was in charge they had better crowds, played a better style and we had people advocating for a second NZ team. They were for many folk their second team.

Next lapse of memory is metrics has only been applied to us. HHHMMMM NQF and Gold Coast would wanta argue that point, and just on the metrics when signed off the requirements were bagged for being way to easy and anyone with half a brain could met them.

Part of the original deal with NZF to allow Australia out of Oceania was to have a team for 10 years, and the second part was NZF would lift their game. NZF has gone from bad to worst even sending players to FIFA events not meeting FIFA regulations.

Its farcical, that they don’t see the obvious and simply  lift their game.

Spent money on Ernie, Kosta etc over 3 years - all turn to custard but wrong thread for a new NIX out war.

I see where your coming from. You don't see the Australia Rugby blaming New Zealand Rugby for there ongoing issues and poor management yet we see Wellington doing exactly that. I think its time to get some Marquee players and bring the crowds back, Its the only way Nix's can survive.

There are no Australian rugby teams that are under New Zealand Rugby's governance, analogy is not apt.

Part of the problem is the WP have endeared themselves to NZF just about as poorly to FFA. Frankly I think NZ should feel more ripped off than we do. Since we left Oceania we've sent a good 25 mill back over for the benefit of NZF. How much of that has filtered through to NZFC?

Your on drugs if you think money from the FFA went into the NZFC. NZF used to own part of the Wellington Phoenix licence until it went sourly to Welnix around 2014 I think. NZF has done fk all to help the Phoenix except allow them to field a development team in the NZFC. The FFA help fund NYL they don't help Nix in that department at all period, and they should to be honest.
 

You're right for once. Whatever money we have sent over seems to stopped at the Phoenix and I haven't touched drugs in my life.