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Micko - 8 Aug 2021 1:30 PM
I’m not sure what Baz is doing. If we are planning for the future, why is Napa or Meany starting? If we are trying to win, why are we constantly changing our team? 

In the case of Napa and Meaney we don't have many other options.

I am not claiming Baz gets everything right or everything wrong.

Team selection has been a bit of a mixed bag, possibly more wrong than rjght.
Some players haven't stepped up as expected, others have faded.
Do I think he is getting the most out of the squad? Again a difficult call.  

I would probably give Baz a 5/10 this year.
But I would give the squad collectively a 2/10, and there are not many I rate above 5.
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Micko - 8 Aug 2021 1:34 PM
I wonder how well Pay would be doing as coach this year. And the following year with the money to recruit. I really hope Baz proves me wrong but I think we will regret signing him in the long run. 

Asked to nominate the coach we may have sacked too early, I would pick Kevin Moore.
Pay I'm still 50/50 like Baz he was still learning to be a coach.

It is a myth that a coach can't improve, or a coach and team can't improve together.
Equally some coaches and teams can go south, while the same coach works elsewhere.

Whenever there is any doubt, I would always give a coach 3 seasons and a coach needs a premiership for every season above 5. Win 3 premierships and the coach can stay until the team finishes in the bottom 4.
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hounddog - 8 Aug 2021 1:40 PM
Micko - 8 Aug 2021 1:30 PM

In the case of Napa and Meaney we don't have many other options.

I am not claiming Baz gets everything right or everything wrong.

Team selection has been a bit of a mixed bag, possibly more wrong than rjght.
Some players haven't stepped up as expected, others have faded.
Do I think he is getting the most out of the squad? Again a difficult call.  

I would probably give Baz a 5/10 this year.
But I would give the squad collectively a 2/10, and there are not many I rate above 5.

That’s how I see it too. And it’s why I still have some hope for Baz. With a stronger roster he might be better. But I want our coach to be the best. 
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hounddog - 8 Aug 2021 1:46 PM
Micko - 8 Aug 2021 1:34 PM

Asked to nominate the coach we may have sacked too early, I would pick Kevin Moore.
Pay I'm still 50/50 like Baz he was still learning to be a coach.

It is a myth that a coach can't improve, or a coach and team can't improve together.
Equally some coaches and teams can go south, while the same coach works elsewhere.

Whenever there us any doubt, I would always give a coach 3 seasons and a coach needs a premiership for every seasons above 5. Win 3 premierships and the coach can stay until the team finishes in the bottom 4.

I would have loved to see more of Kevin Moore. 
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Avo can’t think. Three on two overlap and he runs himself. Why because everyone tells him he needs to run more. Followed up by Meany running with an overlap as well. Followed by a terrible kick to centre field. 

Burton can teach these guys more than anybody else

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WTF would you start farking Napa???? Cost us a penalty on the last tackle… then as usual, TRY

Newsreader the biggest pussy failed to put his body on the line to stop the try as usual
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Well done Newsreader…. Excellent try
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We hold down the opposition for longer than any other team. I’m surprised we don’t give away six again in almost every tackle. Worst defensive Bulldogs team I have ever seen 
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Play that farking Benny Hill music right now
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hounddog - 8 Aug 2021 1:46 PM
Micko - 8 Aug 2021 1:34 PM

Asked to nominate the coach we may have sacked too early, I would pick Kevin Moore.
Pay I'm still 50/50 like Baz he was still learning to be a coach.

It is a myth that a coach can't improve, or a coach and team can't improve together.
Equally some coaches and teams can go south, while the same coach works elsewhere.

Whenever there is any doubt, I would always give a coach 3 seasons and a coach needs a premiership for every season above 5. Win 3 premierships and the coach can stay until the team finishes in the bottom 4.

Who was the American coach who said something along the lines of "I always coach better when my players are better than the opposition players"?  Look at Clive Churchill's record at the berries v his second stint at the rabbits as an example.
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Cut out the dumb errors improve attack 10% and defence 10%, this game is our best chance of a win for a while.

A good side would have put a score on us, no dumb errors and we probably lead at halftime.

Definitely a game between bottom of the table teams, who deserve to be bottom.
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Corey Allan very ordinary, particularly since he came back from injury.

Thst was what a week squad and no reserve grade does, coaches have to gamble on players with no recent match form. Same for all sides, but other clubs have more options.
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Mooloolabadog - 8 Aug 2021 2:36 PM
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Who was the American coach who said something along the lines of "I always coach better when my players are better than the opposition players"?  Look at Clive Churchill's record at the berries v his second stint at the rabbits as an example.

There is a lot of truth to that. The best coaches are the ones that get the best out of the worst players. The best evidence of that is watching the success of coaches when there team is picked to be at the bottom of the table. 

That is why I think Pay has done well. We were picked for the spoon every year he was coach. He missed out on the spoon. Baz however……

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Farking hell….play that Benny hill music
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Villi - 8 Aug 2021 2:51 PM
Farking hell….play that Benny hill music

Averillo….. 
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Villi - 8 Aug 2021 2:56 PM
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Averillo….. 

Fwit Hoppa with a knock on…. Tigers March downfield and TRY

Absolutely farking useless
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Micko - 8 Aug 2021 2:15 PM
We hold down the opposition for longer than any other team. I’m surprised we don’t give away six again in almost every tackle. Worst defensive Bulldogs team I have ever seen 

Clueless is a perfect word to describe this team.
They seriously have no confidence in what they do.

It's like they are praying for the season to end.
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Cant believe we are going to lose to a team that has Mbye and Ofahengaui in it.....
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I'm happy for Hetherington to be sacked after this game.

I honestly thought he had potential but the idiot cant clean up his act. Fekk him off immediately.
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Marki - 8 Aug 2021 3:08 PM
I'm happy for Hetherington to be sacked after this game.

I honestly thought he had potential but the idiot cant clean up his act. Fekk him off immediately.

dumb dumb dumb should be hooked immediately  for that 
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So the answer next year is Burton-Lewis halves, with BBO at hooker with JMK unless Cheese comes. Averillo 14
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One positive is this likely last game Napa play for us after that hit...
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dman2018 - 8 Aug 2021 3:33 PM
One positive is this likely last game Napa play for us after that hit...

There are just Waaaayyyyy to many unintelligent players in this team.

Its one stupid mistake after another. 

There is no leadership. No accountability.

They are beyond help. Complete rabble
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Marki - 8 Aug 2021 3:16 PM
So the answer next year is Burton-Lewis halves, with BBO at hooker with JMK unless Cheese comes. Averillo 14

Is Lewis a good enough controlling half? I don’t think so. We desperately need Pearce. 
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I think Zef is right...

We get sooooo much out of JMK at hooker that we dont need to chase Cheese for big money....

Nice one Zef....
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Disappointing effort again.
The team lacks the confidence and focus to win.
Whern we put it together we are ok, but lucky to do that for more than the odd 10-15 mins.

BBO ok for first NRL game in the halves.

Averillo is doing too much kicking, Jacko is doing too much passing.
Both players stretching beyond their natural game too often.

Dropped ball from Seafood was a nightmare start to the 2nd half.

On this form we will not win another game, this was one of our better chances.
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Normally I would be glad that Napa is suspended.
Odgen is injured Atoni doesn't seem interested.
The only good forward who isn't playing is Topine.

Stimson is the likely replacement and while I don't rate Stimson, that is about breakeven.
Thomson suspened 1 more week.

Maybe time for Jacko to play prop.
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Marki - 8 Aug 2021 3:40 PM
I think Zef is right...

We get sooooo much out of JMK at hooker that we dont need to chase Cheese for big money....

Nice one Zef....

Well JMK is better than Katoa.

Hooker should be a recruitment priority.
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How a club can have this many poor performing players is something I cannot come to terms with.

Some serious questions have to he asked when we choose to sign guys on 3 years instead of 2...
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Prop is another issue, Napa should be going.Britt going, Roumanous doesn't seem that good.
Atoni gone.
Hethington and Thompson both likely to spend at least 5 weeks on the side line.
Young Paolo seems like a prospect.
I would resign Odgen, just for depth, maybe 1 year.
Seafood ok, but nothing special dumb errors at the wrong time not uncommon.
Vaughan isn't enough.
We need 1-2 good young prospects I mean quality the best we can get.
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