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I think that the Warriors may be travelling worse than we are, they were clueless against a 12 man Sharks side.
Poor Warrior fans have never won a comp, it seems like more than 10 years since they have been a contender, they are not lacking local talent. But they seem further away from success than we are.
Sharks look like the real deal, the Sunshine Coast Falcons side of a few years ago with Grant, Hynes, Olam and co could have beat many NRL sides. Hynes and Finucane have added a lot to the Sharks.
Kicks and Mahoney will add a lot to us.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI am a bit hesitant about Flanno Snr as coach now, if his son is at the club, and our best half is someone else. I don't want nepotism to stuff up team selection. Which brings the odvious question - who else is suitable and available? Some one like Mick Potter who has NRL experience and a link to the club. Freddie Fittler would work well with Gus, if we could get him. Or make another suggestion, not anyone under contract. You want a good apple, go to the tree. Tha apple tree as far as NRL coaching is either Bellamy or Robinson. Two apples that come to mind are Brentnall or Ryles. Ryles has worked under both as well as Eddie Jones. Course, doesnt always work, Obrien might be rotting to the core. But then there’s Fitzy who i reckon has already proven himself. And both Brentnall and Ryles will coach NRL, pretty much next cabs off the rank. And Brentnall’d probably pretty pissed off as he seen himself as Bellamy’s successor, but The Storm see Slater as that. Brentnall would suit me. Someone who has played at the dogs has a better understanding of the club and links to the club. Dogs are a club where the coach hasvto understand what makes us tick. If there is a club in the NRL similar to what the Dogs were and what we aspire to be, Storm is that club. You’re thinking about Greg Brentnall, I’m talking about Marc Brentnall. who I think is Greg’s son??? Or maybe nephew??? Anyway they are related closely. Greg has worked at the Storm too, maybe still does. Not coaching though, development or scouting or something like that. I think we need a proven experienced coach. The difference between an assistant and a head coach is enormous. We can't waste another couple of years in the hope someone can transition or our good recruitment could be wasted. It's unfortunate RL is such a small world. Limited opportunity, other than the north of England for a coach to show he is capable of the transition. You can strike any experienced NRL coach with a gig at another club off the list, unless we know otherwise. That is most of them. Des was experienced, at one stage Bellamy and Robinson were inexperienced. What Baz needs to improve is team selection, bench rotation, fitness, execution and mental preparation. IMO the finner points of coaching, not the basics. What I don't know is how much faith the team has in the coach and more importantly in themselves. We might need a reboot just to change the mindset. Reserve grade going well with a fairly young squad means that we have the depth. Coaching the dogs in 2023 is a much more attractive proposition than 2021. Robinson went over to Catalans and got experience as a head coach in the ESL. Still I think having Gus in his role means big name coaches will not necessarily want to report to Gus. The advantage having Gus is we don't have the head coach making a salary cap mess. With Gus on deck he is having a big say and I'm happy with that. My only point is that fans are understandly desperate for a quick fix, but it isn't that simple. I don't think we expected a "quick fix". Some incremental improvement is not too much to expect. We've regressed to the point of second last being an improvement. I Don't think thats acceptable. I am talking about the options for a replacement coach, we can't assume we will get a top coach and instant success. Like halfback we need to identify the best 5-10 year option for coach. We've wasted 5 years with dud decisions. What did we do. Go for a rookie then a previously failed coach. No confidence in the club's ability in this regard. Outsource it. Agree with you here.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI am a bit hesitant about Flanno Snr as coach now, if his son is at the club, and our best half is someone else. I don't want nepotism to stuff up team selection. Which brings the odvious question - who else is suitable and available? Some one like Mick Potter who has NRL experience and a link to the club. Freddie Fittler would work well with Gus, if we could get him. Or make another suggestion, not anyone under contract. You want a good apple, go to the tree. Tha apple tree as far as NRL coaching is either Bellamy or Robinson. Two apples that come to mind are Brentnall or Ryles. Ryles has worked under both as well as Eddie Jones. Course, doesnt always work, Obrien might be rotting to the core. But then there’s Fitzy who i reckon has already proven himself. And both Brentnall and Ryles will coach NRL, pretty much next cabs off the rank. And Brentnall’d probably pretty pissed off as he seen himself as Bellamy’s successor, but The Storm see Slater as that. Brentnall would suit me. Someone who has played at the dogs has a better understanding of the club and links to the club. Dogs are a club where the coach hasvto understand what makes us tick. If there is a club in the NRL similar to what the Dogs were and what we aspire to be, Storm is that club. You’re thinking about Greg Brentnall, I’m talking about Marc Brentnall. who I think is Greg’s son??? Or maybe nephew??? Anyway they are related closely. Greg has worked at the Storm too, maybe still does. Not coaching though, development or scouting or something like that. I think we need a proven experienced coach. The difference between an assistant and a head coach is enormous. We can't waste another couple of years in the hope someone can transition or our good recruitment could be wasted. It's unfortunate RL is such a small world. Limited opportunity, other than the north of England for a coach to show he is capable of the transition. You can strike any experienced NRL coach with a gig at another club off the list, unless we know otherwise. That is most of them. Des was experienced, at one stage Bellamy and Robinson were inexperienced. What Baz needs to improve is team selection, bench rotation, fitness, execution and mental preparation. IMO the finner points of coaching, not the basics. What I don't know is how much faith the team has in the coach and more importantly in themselves. We might need a reboot just to change the mindset. Reserve grade going well with a fairly young squad means that we have the depth. Coaching the dogs in 2023 is a much more attractive proposition than 2021. Robinson went over to Catalans and got experience as a head coach in the ESL. Still I think having Gus in his role means big name coaches will not necessarily want to report to Gus. The advantage having Gus is we don't have the head coach making a salary cap mess. With Gus on deck he is having a big say and I'm happy with that. My only point is that fans are understandly desperate for a quick fix, but it isn't that simple. I don't think we expected a "quick fix". Some incremental improvement is not too much to expect. We've regressed to the point of second last being an improvement. I Don't think thats acceptable. I am talking about the options for a replacement coach, we can't assume we will get a top coach and instant success. Like halfback we need to identify the best 5-10 year option for coach. We've wasted 5 years with dud decisions. What did we do. Go for a rookie then a previously failed coach. No confidence in the club's ability in this regard. Outsource it. Agree with you here. Yes let's sack the board and admin again, the last 15 years have been a great success.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI am a bit hesitant about Flanno Snr as coach now, if his son is at the club, and our best half is someone else. I don't want nepotism to stuff up team selection. Which brings the odvious question - who else is suitable and available? Some one like Mick Potter who has NRL experience and a link to the club. Freddie Fittler would work well with Gus, if we could get him. Or make another suggestion, not anyone under contract. You want a good apple, go to the tree. Tha apple tree as far as NRL coaching is either Bellamy or Robinson. Two apples that come to mind are Brentnall or Ryles. Ryles has worked under both as well as Eddie Jones. Course, doesnt always work, Obrien might be rotting to the core. But then there’s Fitzy who i reckon has already proven himself. And both Brentnall and Ryles will coach NRL, pretty much next cabs off the rank. And Brentnall’d probably pretty pissed off as he seen himself as Bellamy’s successor, but The Storm see Slater as that. Brentnall would suit me. Someone who has played at the dogs has a better understanding of the club and links to the club. Dogs are a club where the coach hasvto understand what makes us tick. If there is a club in the NRL similar to what the Dogs were and what we aspire to be, Storm is that club. You’re thinking about Greg Brentnall, I’m talking about Marc Brentnall. who I think is Greg’s son??? Or maybe nephew??? Anyway they are related closely. Greg has worked at the Storm too, maybe still does. Not coaching though, development or scouting or something like that. I think we need a proven experienced coach. The difference between an assistant and a head coach is enormous. We can't waste another couple of years in the hope someone can transition or our good recruitment could be wasted. It's unfortunate RL is such a small world. Limited opportunity, other than the north of England for a coach to show he is capable of the transition. You can strike any experienced NRL coach with a gig at another club off the list, unless we know otherwise. That is most of them. Des was experienced, at one stage Bellamy and Robinson were inexperienced. What Baz needs to improve is team selection, bench rotation, fitness, execution and mental preparation. IMO the finner points of coaching, not the basics. What I don't know is how much faith the team has in the coach and more importantly in themselves. We might need a reboot just to change the mindset. Reserve grade going well with a fairly young squad means that we have the depth. Coaching the dogs in 2023 is a much more attractive proposition than 2021. Robinson went over to Catalans and got experience as a head coach in the ESL. Still I think having Gus in his role means big name coaches will not necessarily want to report to Gus. The advantage having Gus is we don't have the head coach making a salary cap mess. With Gus on deck he is having a big say and I'm happy with that. My only point is that fans are understandly desperate for a quick fix, but it isn't that simple. I don't think we expected a "quick fix". Some incremental improvement is not too much to expect. We've regressed to the point of second last being an improvement. I Don't think thats acceptable. I am talking about the options for a replacement coach, we can't assume we will get a top coach and instant success. Like halfback we need to identify the best 5-10 year option for coach. We've wasted 5 years with dud decisions. What did we do. Go for a rookie then a previously failed coach. No confidence in the club's ability in this regard. Outsource it. Agree with you here. Yes let's sack the board and admin again, the last 15 years have been a great success. I think what they are saying is that we need to bring in outsiders to appoint a new coach.
Many smart businesses do this. It takes the emotions out of the decision.
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Hey Dman, I realised why they call this magic round....
One of these 2 shit teams will magically pull off a win this Friday.....
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI am a bit hesitant about Flanno Snr as coach now, if his son is at the club, and our best half is someone else. I don't want nepotism to stuff up team selection. Which brings the odvious question - who else is suitable and available? Some one like Mick Potter who has NRL experience and a link to the club. Freddie Fittler would work well with Gus, if we could get him. Or make another suggestion, not anyone under contract. You want a good apple, go to the tree. Tha apple tree as far as NRL coaching is either Bellamy or Robinson. Two apples that come to mind are Brentnall or Ryles. Ryles has worked under both as well as Eddie Jones. Course, doesnt always work, Obrien might be rotting to the core. But then there’s Fitzy who i reckon has already proven himself. And both Brentnall and Ryles will coach NRL, pretty much next cabs off the rank. And Brentnall’d probably pretty pissed off as he seen himself as Bellamy’s successor, but The Storm see Slater as that. Brentnall would suit me. Someone who has played at the dogs has a better understanding of the club and links to the club. Dogs are a club where the coach hasvto understand what makes us tick. If there is a club in the NRL similar to what the Dogs were and what we aspire to be, Storm is that club. You’re thinking about Greg Brentnall, I’m talking about Marc Brentnall. who I think is Greg’s son??? Or maybe nephew??? Anyway they are related closely. Greg has worked at the Storm too, maybe still does. Not coaching though, development or scouting or something like that. I think we need a proven experienced coach. The difference between an assistant and a head coach is enormous. We can't waste another couple of years in the hope someone can transition or our good recruitment could be wasted. It's unfortunate RL is such a small world. Limited opportunity, other than the north of England for a coach to show he is capable of the transition. You can strike any experienced NRL coach with a gig at another club off the list, unless we know otherwise. That is most of them. Des was experienced, at one stage Bellamy and Robinson were inexperienced. What Baz needs to improve is team selection, bench rotation, fitness, execution and mental preparation. IMO the finner points of coaching, not the basics. What I don't know is how much faith the team has in the coach and more importantly in themselves. We might need a reboot just to change the mindset. Reserve grade going well with a fairly young squad means that we have the depth. Coaching the dogs in 2023 is a much more attractive proposition than 2021. Robinson went over to Catalans and got experience as a head coach in the ESL. Still I think having Gus in his role means big name coaches will not necessarily want to report to Gus. The advantage having Gus is we don't have the head coach making a salary cap mess. With Gus on deck he is having a big say and I'm happy with that. My only point is that fans are understandly desperate for a quick fix, but it isn't that simple. I don't think we expected a "quick fix". Some incremental improvement is not too much to expect. We've regressed to the point of second last being an improvement. I Don't think thats acceptable. I am talking about the options for a replacement coach, we can't assume we will get a top coach and instant success. Like halfback we need to identify the best 5-10 year option for coach. We've wasted 5 years with dud decisions. What did we do. Go for a rookie then a previously failed coach. No confidence in the club's ability in this regard. Outsource it. Agree with you here. Yes let's sack the board and admin again, the last 15 years have been a great success. I think what they are saying is that we need to bring in outsiders to appoint a new coach.
Many smart businesses do this. It takes the emotions out of the decision. My point is that the board, management and Gus are handling it. I understand why fans are unhappy, but any other process might not have got a different outcome. IMO decide on Baz by the end of June. Decide on the new coach by the end of August, then make the call. identifying a good coach isn't rocket science, look at their record, talk to coaches and players who have worked with them. All outside agencies typically do is make some of the phone calls and shuffle the paperwork. Often the same agencies hire accountants, truck drivers and coal miners. If we think that there are people out there who know more about football than Gus and our management and who are interested in helping the club - name them. Interested in helping culls 90% of the league community. We need to help ourselves. I doubt that we are planning on recruiting many more players. Dufty has a few weeks to save his NRL career, Baz around the same amount of time,perhaps a bit longer. Dufty is looking at England no other NRL club wants him. When their future is on the line, we see what people are made of, sink or swim.
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+xHey Dman, I realised why they call this magic round.... One of these 2 shit teams will magically pull off a win this Friday..... A loss and s bad performance should be terminal for some of our players and maybe the coach. Might be the same for them, lack of effort hasn't been a problem for us, panic has been a problem. Starting well all important this game, we know we are not great when chasing points. Some of the Newcastle on line defence has been woeful this season, if we can't score against them that is a bad sign. Lack of effort looked like a possible cause.
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+x+xHey Dman, I realised why they call this magic round.... One of these 2 shit teams will magically pull off a win this Friday..... A loss and s bad performance should be terminal for some of our players and maybe the coach. Might be the same for them, lack of effort has been a problem for us, panic has been a problem. Starting well all important this game, we know we are not great when chasing points. Some of the Newcastle on line defence has been woeful this season, if we can't score against them that is a bad sign. Lack of effort looked like a possible cause. There's 2 ways to win a game like this.... One is that you play it safe aiming at a 90% completion rate, good discipline not giving away penalties or many 6 agains and you eventually convert some of your opportunities and scrape through when the opposition makes an error that costs them the game. The other is you hang in there and one of your players does something remarkable and pulls a rabbit out of a hat and wins it for you, even against the runner play or possession. Knights can do both. We can only do the former. I cant believe shit we are and yet we are still flogging the Burton-Flanagan halves pairing show
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+x+x+xHey Dman, I realised why they call this magic round.... One of these 2 shit teams will magically pull off a win this Friday..... A loss and s bad performance should be terminal for some of our players and maybe the coach. Might be the same for them, lack of effort has been a problem for us, panic has been a problem. Starting well all important this game, we know we are not great when chasing points. Some of the Newcastle on line defence has been woeful this season, if we can't score against them that is a bad sign. Lack of effort looked like a possible cause. There's 2 ways to win a game like this.... One is that you play it safe aiming at a 90% completion rate, good discipline not giving away penalties or many 6 agains and you eventually convert some of your opportunities and scrape through when the opposition makes an error that costs them the game. The other is you hang in there and one of your players does something remarkable and pulls a rabbit out of a hat and wins it for you, even against the runner play or possession. Knights can do both. We can only do the former. I cant believe shit we are and yet we are still flogging the Burton-Flanagan halves pairing show In reserve grade last game- Wakeham kicked a 40/20 and threw a good pass for a try. BBO set up 3 tries off kicks scoring 1 off his own kick. If they could do that in NRL every week, they would be in the side. But I would start one of them at hooker with JMK on the bench, just incase they can get us early repeat sets or a try off a kick. When that player is gassed, bring JMK on. We rarely get Schoupp and Averillo early ball with room to move, both are capable as are JAC, Burton and Dufty. This game is a big test for Dufty, when he is hot he can win a game. He is better off passing to Averillo unless he is sure the long pass is on. Naden needs to be ready to get the ball from Averillo and Dufty. Averillo and Naden need to get better at positioning themselves in attack. Newcastle do have 1-2 good attacking weapons, but their defence has been ordinary in recent weeks. The team with the most energy will win provided it limits silly unforced errors.
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Dean Pay won more games than Trent Barrett with a much poorer side. Hasler did so much better than both. Gus must see this soon and offer Flanno a job.
We need an experienced coach and halfback. That is all
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+x+x+x+xHey Dman, I realised why they call this magic round.... One of these 2 shit teams will magically pull off a win this Friday..... A loss and s bad performance should be terminal for some of our players and maybe the coach. Might be the same for them, lack of effort has been a problem for us, panic has been a problem. Starting well all important this game, we know we are not great when chasing points. Some of the Newcastle on line defence has been woeful this season, if we can't score against them that is a bad sign. Lack of effort looked like a possible cause. There's 2 ways to win a game like this.... One is that you play it safe aiming at a 90% completion rate, good discipline not giving away penalties or many 6 agains and you eventually convert some of your opportunities and scrape through when the opposition makes an error that costs them the game. The other is you hang in there and one of your players does something remarkable and pulls a rabbit out of a hat and wins it for you, even against the runner play or possession. Knights can do both. We can only do the former. I cant believe shit we are and yet we are still flogging the Burton-Flanagan halves pairing show In reserve grade last game- Wakeham kicked a 40/20 and threw a good pass for a try. BBO set up 3 tries off kicks scoring 1 off his own kick. If they could do that in NRL every week, they would be in the side. But I would start one of them at hooker with JMK on the bench, just incase they can get us early repeat sets or a try off a kick. When that player is gassed, bring JMK on. We rarely get Schoupp and Averillo early ball with room to move, both are capable as are JAC, Burton and Dufty. This game is a big test for Dufty, when he is hot he can win a game. He is better off passing to Averillo unless he is sure the long pass is on. Naden needs to be ready to get the ball from Averillo and Dufty. Averillo and Naden need to get better at positioning themselves in attack. Newcastle do have 1-2 good attacking weapons, but their defence has been ordinary in recent weeks. The team with the most energy will win provided it limits silly unforced errors. Reserve grade is clearly a very low level and although players should be judged on merit/form etc I don’t think it’s fair to compare them at different levels.
Baz should just give BBO more time at hooker.
Dropping players rarely works well. Changing combinations doesn’t work. Baz has proven this during his coaching tenure.
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+x+x+x+x+xHey Dman, I realised why they call this magic round.... One of these 2 shit teams will magically pull off a win this Friday..... A loss and s bad performance should be terminal for some of our players and maybe the coach. Might be the same for them, lack of effort has been a problem for us, panic has been a problem. Starting well all important this game, we know we are not great when chasing points. Some of the Newcastle on line defence has been woeful this season, if we can't score against them that is a bad sign. Lack of effort looked like a possible cause. There's 2 ways to win a game like this.... One is that you play it safe aiming at a 90% completion rate, good discipline not giving away penalties or many 6 agains and you eventually convert some of your opportunities and scrape through when the opposition makes an error that costs them the game. The other is you hang in there and one of your players does something remarkable and pulls a rabbit out of a hat and wins it for you, even against the runner play or possession. Knights can do both. We can only do the former. I cant believe shit we are and yet we are still flogging the Burton-Flanagan halves pairing show In reserve grade last game- Wakeham kicked a 40/20 and threw a good pass for a try. BBO set up 3 tries off kicks scoring 1 off his own kick. If they could do that in NRL every week, they would be in the side. But I would start one of them at hooker with JMK on the bench, just incase they can get us early repeat sets or a try off a kick. When that player is gassed, bring JMK on. We rarely get Schoupp and Averillo early ball with room to move, both are capable as are JAC, Burton and Dufty. This game is a big test for Dufty, when he is hot he can win a game. He is better off passing to Averillo unless he is sure the long pass is on. Naden needs to be ready to get the ball from Averillo and Dufty. Averillo and Naden need to get better at positioning themselves in attack. Newcastle do have 1-2 good attacking weapons, but their defence has been ordinary in recent weeks. The team with the most energy will win provided it limits silly unforced errors. Reserve grade is clearly a very low level and although players should be judged on merit/form etc I don’t think it’s fair to compare them at different levels.
Baz should just give BBO more time at hooker.
Dropping players rarely works well. Changing combinations doesn’t work. Baz has proven this during his coaching tenure. I thought BBO looked good at hooker against the Raiders. All I am suggesting is BBO starts with JMK on the bench, not a radical change. Our combinations in attack were fine except for Dufty-Averillo-Naden where a few raids broke down. For now more practice is needed, but Dufty and Naden dropped far too much ball last game. We didn't just lose due to dropped ball, but that was the biggest problem. My understanding is that young guys like Kiraz, Tola and Casey can't play NRL before round 11. After that Tola is vying with Dufty. Kiraz is vying with Averillo and Naden. Casey is vying with Naden. Hayward is out injured and I doubt that we would play him this year anyway. I am sold on Burton as 5/8, we know Reid is hooker next season. The long term half is at the club, but I doubt Flanno is who Gus has in mind. My best guess is that Dufty will not be here next year, unless he really improves. Some of these young guys have earned a chance, competition for places is good. Why we are not winning games this year has a lot to do with 9,7,1 and a lack of 2nd row options.
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+xDean Pay won more games than Trent Barrett with a much poorer side. Hasler did so much better than both. Gus must see this soon and offer Flanno a job.
We need an experienced coach and halfback. That is all Be careful what you wish for. Remember with senior comes junior...they are a package deal.
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+x+x+xHey Dman, I realised why they call this magic round.... One of these 2 shit teams will magically pull off a win this Friday..... A loss and s bad performance should be terminal for some of our players and maybe the coach. Might be the same for them, lack of effort has been a problem for us, panic has been a problem. Starting well all important this game, we know we are not great when chasing points. Some of the Newcastle on line defence has been woeful this season, if we can't score against them that is a bad sign. Lack of effort looked like a possible cause. I cant believe shit we are and yet we are still flogging the Burton-Flanagan halves pairing show OK....over to you.... who do we get rid of?, Burton or Flanagan. Better question... who do we replace them with?.
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+x+xDean Pay won more games than Trent Barrett with a much poorer side. Hasler did so much better than both. Gus must see this soon and offer Flanno a job.
We need an experienced coach and halfback. That is all Be careful what you wish for. Remember with senior comes junior...they are a package deal. I don't want either. Brad Arthur already finds it hard to leave his son out of the parra team and Kevin Walters is the same. We don't want the same baggage with Kyle when it's clear he isn't the right halfback for us.
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+x+x+x+xHey Dman, I realised why they call this magic round.... One of these 2 shit teams will magically pull off a win this Friday..... A loss and s bad performance should be terminal for some of our players and maybe the coach. Might be the same for them, lack of effort has been a problem for us, panic has been a problem. Starting well all important this game, we know we are not great when chasing points. Some of the Newcastle on line defence has been woeful this season, if we can't score against them that is a bad sign. Lack of effort looked like a possible cause. I cant believe shit we are and yet we are still flogging the Burton-Flanagan halves pairing show OK....over to you.... who do we get rid of?, Burton or Flanagan. Better question... who do we replace them with?. My guess is that BBO or Hayward is the future halfback. Most likely Hayward. My are giving Flanagan a chance this season, he is doing better than last season in attack and defence, but his kicking game needs a lot of work. But for now I doubt that we will change the half anytime soon. If Baz is sacked, a new coach might make a number of changes including halfback.
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Whoever is coaching next season, we should have our best squad for 5-7 years.
If I am giving marks out of 10.
2018 - 5/10, 2019 4/10, 2020 4/10, 2021 5/10, 2022 6.5/10, 2023 8/10, perhaps 8.5/10.
In 2022 6.5 should mean finishing 10th-14th. We are underachieving, but not massively.
In 2023 8/10 should mean 7th-10th. Judging over/under achievement starts from that base.
And if we aren't 8/10 recruitment and retention has some questions to answer.
Everyone sees it differently, but fewer excuses next season.
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+xWhoever is coaching next season, we should have our best squad for 5-7 years. If I am giving marks out of 10. 2018 - 5/10, 2019 4/10, 2020 4/10, 2021 5/10, 2022 6.5/10, 2023 8/10, perhaps 8.5/10. In 2022 6.5 should mean finishing 10th-14th. We are underachieving, but not massively. In 2023 8/10 should mean 7th-10th. Judging over/under achievement starts from that base. And if we aren't 8/10 recruitment and retention has some questions to answer. Everyone sees it differently, but fewer excuses next season. It's a 16 team comp and you gave us 5/10 in 2021 (spoon year) and 4/10 in 2020 (equal last). I was expecting you to give us 0.5 / 10
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+x+xWhoever is coaching next season, we should have our best squad for 5-7 years. If I am giving marks out of 10. 2018 - 5/10, 2019 4/10, 2020 4/10, 2021 5/10, 2022 6.5/10, 2023 8/10, perhaps 8.5/10. In 2022 6.5 should mean finishing 10th-14th. We are underachieving, but not massively. In 2023 8/10 should mean 7th-10th. Judging over/under achievement starts from that base. And if we aren't 8/10 recruitment and retention has some questions to answer. Everyone sees it differently, but fewer excuses next season. It's a 16 team comp and you gave us 5/10 in 2021 (spoon year) and 4/10 in 2020 (equal last). I was expecting you to give us 0.5 / 10 4/10 is more or less spoon material, no NRL side is much worse than that on my ratings. The difference between 9/10 and 10/10 is the coach, 10/10 likely to win the comp. When a club is 4/10 we mostly want the coach to be improving players, the salary cap needs to be sorted, scouting, development, retention and recruitment run well. The hard part of the rebuild should be over, I hope it is. I was hoping to be 7/10 this season, the coach and recruitment haven't got everything right. Dufty is a gamble, a free roll of the dice with little to lose, it might still come off. But we might have been better advised to go all in for Hynes, or if we couldn't get him sign Hastings. Burns and Naden are the unnecessary signings, I was all for Naden, but we might have been able to save some money here. Most probably we just wanted to add NRL experience to a young inexperienced side.
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+x+x+xWhoever is coaching next season, we should have our best squad for 5-7 years. If I am giving marks out of 10. 2018 - 5/10, 2019 4/10, 2020 4/10, 2021 5/10, 2022 6.5/10, 2023 8/10, perhaps 8.5/10. In 2022 6.5 should mean finishing 10th-14th. We are underachieving, but not massively. In 2023 8/10 should mean 7th-10th. Judging over/under achievement starts from that base. And if we aren't 8/10 recruitment and retention has some questions to answer. Everyone sees it differently, but fewer excuses next season. It's a 16 team comp and you gave us 5/10 in 2021 (spoon year) and 4/10 in 2020 (equal last). I was expecting you to give us 0.5 / 10 4/10 is more or less spoon material, no NRL side is much worse than that on my ratings. The difference between 9/10 and 10/10 is the coach, 10/10 likely to win the comp. When a club is 4/10 we mostly want the coach to be improving players, the salary cap needs to be sorted, scouting, development, retention and recruitment run well. The hard part of the rebuild should be over, I hope it is. I was hoping to be 7/10 this season, the coach and recruitment haven't got everything right. Dufty is a gamble, a free roll of the dice with little to lose, it might still come off. But we might have been better advised to go all in for Hynes, or if we couldn't get him sign Hastings. Burns and Naden are the unnecessary signings, I was all for Naden, but we might have been able to save some money here. Most probably we just wanted to add NRL experience to a young inexperienced side. Naden is garbage. Was never a fan of him. Dufty I have been a fan of, but was always aware that he can win you and cost you games. Everyone wants to get rid of Dufty due to his errors and lack of body on line plays, but the reality is he is our only real chance of constructed tries. Burton and Flanno are incapable, so I keep telling people, the time to let Dufty go is only when we have adequate halves or a better fullback than him. I certainly can't see out team improving if we go back to a solid but non x-factor fullback. Whoever we end up replacing Dufty with, must be a ball playing fullback. We cannot have an Edwards like Penrith coz we don't have a Cleary and Luai
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+x+x+x+xWhoever is coaching next season, we should have our best squad for 5-7 years. If I am giving marks out of 10. 2018 - 5/10, 2019 4/10, 2020 4/10, 2021 5/10, 2022 6.5/10, 2023 8/10, perhaps 8.5/10. In 2022 6.5 should mean finishing 10th-14th. We are underachieving, but not massively. In 2023 8/10 should mean 7th-10th. Judging over/under achievement starts from that base. And if we aren't 8/10 recruitment and retention has some questions to answer. Everyone sees it differently, but fewer excuses next season. It's a 16 team comp and you gave us 5/10 in 2021 (spoon year) and 4/10 in 2020 (equal last). I was expecting you to give us 0.5 / 10 4/10 is more or less spoon material, no NRL side is much worse than that on my ratings. The difference between 9/10 and 10/10 is the coach, 10/10 likely to win the comp. When a club is 4/10 we mostly want the coach to be improving players, the salary cap needs to be sorted, scouting, development, retention and recruitment run well. The hard part of the rebuild should be over, I hope it is. I was hoping to be 7/10 this season, the coach and recruitment haven't got everything right. Dufty is a gamble, a free roll of the dice with little to lose, it might still come off. But we might have been better advised to go all in for Hynes, or if we couldn't get him sign Hastings. Burns and Naden are the unnecessary signings, I was all for Naden, but we might have been able to save some money here. Most probably we just wanted to add NRL experience to a young inexperienced side. Naden is garbage. Was never a fan of him. Dufty I have been a fan of, but was always aware that he can win you and cost you games. Everyone wants to get rid of Dufty due to his errors and lack of body on line plays, but the reality is he is our only real chance of constructed tries. Burton and Flanno are incapable, so I keep telling people, the time to let Dufty go is only when we have adequate halves or a better fullback than him. I certainly can't see out team improving if we go back to a solid but non x-factor fullback. Whoever we end up replacing Dufty with, must be a ball playing fullback. We cannot have an Edwards like Penrith coz we don't have a Cleary and Luai There is no better illustration of the value of a good spine than Fifita at the titans. A spine of Sexton, Smith, Clark and Brimson, makes ours look good. As a result no good ball or movements for Fifita and he has to run through half the opposition, who are waiting for him, every time he gets the ball.
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+x+x+x+xWhoever is coaching next season, we should have our best squad for 5-7 years. If I am giving marks out of 10. 2018 - 5/10, 2019 4/10, 2020 4/10, 2021 5/10, 2022 6.5/10, 2023 8/10, perhaps 8.5/10. In 2022 6.5 should mean finishing 10th-14th. We are underachieving, but not massively. In 2023 8/10 should mean 7th-10th. Judging over/under achievement starts from that base. And if we aren't 8/10 recruitment and retention has some questions to answer. Everyone sees it differently, but fewer excuses next season. It's a 16 team comp and you gave us 5/10 in 2021 (spoon year) and 4/10 in 2020 (equal last). I was expecting you to give us 0.5 / 10 4/10 is more or less spoon material, no NRL side is much worse than that on my ratings. The difference between 9/10 and 10/10 is the coach, 10/10 likely to win the comp. When a club is 4/10 we mostly want the coach to be improving players, the salary cap needs to be sorted, scouting, development, retention and recruitment run well. The hard part of the rebuild should be over, I hope it is. I was hoping to be 7/10 this season, the coach and recruitment haven't got everything right. Dufty is a gamble, a free roll of the dice with little to lose, it might still come off. But we might have been better advised to go all in for Hynes, or if we couldn't get him sign Hastings. Burns and Naden are the unnecessary signings, I was all for Naden, but we might have been able to save some money here. Most probably we just wanted to add NRL experience to a young inexperienced side. Naden is garbage. Was never a fan of him. Dufty I have been a fan of, but was always aware that he can win you and cost you games. Everyone wants to get rid of Dufty due to his errors and lack of body on line plays, but the reality is he is our only real chance of constructed tries. Burton and Flanno are incapable, so I keep telling people, the time to let Dufty go is only when we have adequate halves or a better fullback than him. I certainly can't see out team improving if we go back to a solid but non x-factor fullback. Whoever we end up replacing Dufty with, must be a ball playing fullback. We cannot have an Edwards like Penrith coz we don't have a Cleary and Luai The alternatives to Dufty are Tola, Casey and Averillo. Different players but all offer something in attack. Credence Tola is the most likely candidate, definitely better than Dufty in defence, more than equal in positional play. and very handy in attack. There are 2 big problems with Dufty. 1. Sometimes he overplays his hand in attack. 2. He lets in lots of tries close to our line. Dufty could fix both issues, but had both issues for many seasons. Tola deserves a chance at some stage, if he doesn't get it here, he is very likely to get it elsewhere. A fullback with a bigger body is also an advantage in many situations, attack and defence. You have heard that apparently no other NRL club wants Dufty, if we don't extend him, he is heading for England. More focus and effort could fix his problems, the ball is in his court.
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+x+x+x+x+xWhoever is coaching next season, we should have our best squad for 5-7 years. If I am giving marks out of 10. 2018 - 5/10, 2019 4/10, 2020 4/10, 2021 5/10, 2022 6.5/10, 2023 8/10, perhaps 8.5/10. In 2022 6.5 should mean finishing 10th-14th. We are underachieving, but not massively. In 2023 8/10 should mean 7th-10th. Judging over/under achievement starts from that base. And if we aren't 8/10 recruitment and retention has some questions to answer. Everyone sees it differently, but fewer excuses next season. It's a 16 team comp and you gave us 5/10 in 2021 (spoon year) and 4/10 in 2020 (equal last). I was expecting you to give us 0.5 / 10 4/10 is more or less spoon material, no NRL side is much worse than that on my ratings. The difference between 9/10 and 10/10 is the coach, 10/10 likely to win the comp. When a club is 4/10 we mostly want the coach to be improving players, the salary cap needs to be sorted, scouting, development, retention and recruitment run well. The hard part of the rebuild should be over, I hope it is. I was hoping to be 7/10 this season, the coach and recruitment haven't got everything right. Dufty is a gamble, a free roll of the dice with little to lose, it might still come off. But we might have been better advised to go all in for Hynes, or if we couldn't get him sign Hastings. Burns and Naden are the unnecessary signings, I was all for Naden, but we might have been able to save some money here. Most probably we just wanted to add NRL experience to a young inexperienced side. Naden is garbage. Was never a fan of him. Dufty I have been a fan of, but was always aware that he can win you and cost you games. Everyone wants to get rid of Dufty due to his errors and lack of body on line plays, but the reality is he is our only real chance of constructed tries. Burton and Flanno are incapable, so I keep telling people, the time to let Dufty go is only when we have adequate halves or a better fullback than him. I certainly can't see out team improving if we go back to a solid but non x-factor fullback. Whoever we end up replacing Dufty with, must be a ball playing fullback. We cannot have an Edwards like Penrith coz we don't have a Cleary and Luai There is no better illustration of the value of a good spine than Fifita at the titans. A spine of Sexton, Smith, Clark and Brimson, makes ours look good. As a result no good ball or movements for Fifita and he has to run through half the opposition, who are waiting for him, every time he gets the ball. Someone like Fifita or Kicks could also make our halves look better. IMO TPJ tends to get the ball standing still, not a classic running 2nd rower, Wardell doesn't have much tackle busting abilty. A half with good combinations with a quality backrower and centre has a lot more options.
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Well well well… I see Villi traded Adam Elliot into his Supercoach side… Admittedly at $435K… Also see Tolman has reclaimed the 10 for the on fire Sharks…
#BDPtoo…
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+xWell well well… I see Villi traded Adam Elliot into his Supercoach side… Admittedly at $435K… Also see Tolman has reclaimed the 10 for the on fire Sharks…
#BDPtoo…
The BDP is now officially the TFC - Tolman Fan Club. A statue of the great man can be seen in Dr Marki's front yard, and we gather on Sunday mornings to praise the great one.
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Just for fun..: This is our current SuperCoach value..: Duff - $482K Nado - $242K Aver - $226K Chop - $383K Foxx - $559 Burt - $423K Flan - $308K Thom - $478K JMK - $467K Vawn - $490K Wadd- $404K TPJ - $578K JJ - $529k BBO - $177K JoeS - $208K Maxy - $396K Pato - $237K SeaF - $205K Cook - $175K JTop - $281K Wako - $311K JOK - $345K RFM - $411K Alam - $175K oKay…
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+xJust for fun..: This is our current SuperCoach value..: Duff - $482K Nado - $242K Aver - $226K Chop - $383K Foxx - $559 Burt - $423K Flan - $308K Thom - $478K JMK - $467K Vawn - $490K Wadd- $404K TPJ - $578K JJ - $529k BBO - $177K JoeS - $208K Maxy - $396K Pato - $237K SeaF - $205K Cook - $175K JTop - $281K Wako - $311K JOK - $345K RFM - $411K Alam - $175K oKay…
As some form of reference Papi - $929K Cleary - $985K Teddy - $699K Garrick - $656k Dearfen - $487K oKay…
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Only the 24 named this week…
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Great to see FRM getting closer after a > 400 day recovery…
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+x+x+x+x+xWhoever is coaching next season, we should have our best squad for 5-7 years. If I am giving marks out of 10. 2018 - 5/10, 2019 4/10, 2020 4/10, 2021 5/10, 2022 6.5/10, 2023 8/10, perhaps 8.5/10. In 2022 6.5 should mean finishing 10th-14th. We are underachieving, but not massively. In 2023 8/10 should mean 7th-10th. Judging over/under achievement starts from that base. And if we aren't 8/10 recruitment and retention has some questions to answer. Everyone sees it differently, but fewer excuses next season. It's a 16 team comp and you gave us 5/10 in 2021 (spoon year) and 4/10 in 2020 (equal last). I was expecting you to give us 0.5 / 10 4/10 is more or less spoon material, no NRL side is much worse than that on my ratings. The difference between 9/10 and 10/10 is the coach, 10/10 likely to win the comp. When a club is 4/10 we mostly want the coach to be improving players, the salary cap needs to be sorted, scouting, development, retention and recruitment run well. The hard part of the rebuild should be over, I hope it is. I was hoping to be 7/10 this season, the coach and recruitment haven't got everything right. Dufty is a gamble, a free roll of the dice with little to lose, it might still come off. But we might have been better advised to go all in for Hynes, or if we couldn't get him sign Hastings. Burns and Naden are the unnecessary signings, I was all for Naden, but we might have been able to save some money here. Most probably we just wanted to add NRL experience to a young inexperienced side. Naden is garbage. Was never a fan of him. Dufty I have been a fan of, but was always aware that he can win you and cost you games. Everyone wants to get rid of Dufty due to his errors and lack of body on line plays, but the reality is he is our only real chance of constructed tries. Burton and Flanno are incapable, so I keep telling people, the time to let Dufty go is only when we have adequate halves or a better fullback than him. I certainly can't see out team improving if we go back to a solid but non x-factor fullback. Whoever we end up replacing Dufty with, must be a ball playing fullback. We cannot have an Edwards like Penrith coz we don't have a Cleary and Luai The alternatives to Dufty are Tola, Casey and Averillo. Different players but all offer something in attack. Credence Tola is the most likely candidate, definitely better than Dufty in defence, more than equal in positional play. and very handy in attack. There are 2 big problems with Dufty. 1. Sometimes he overplays his hand in attack. 2. He lets in lots of tries close to our line. Dufty could fix both issues, but had both issues for many seasons. Tola deserves a chance at some stage, if he doesn't get it here, he is very likely to get it elsewhere. A fullback with a bigger body is also an advantage in many situations, attack and defence. You have heard that apparently no other NRL club wants Dufty, if we don't extend him, he is heading for England. More focus and effort could fix his problems, the ball is in his court. There’s an inevitable squeeze gonna happen at The Titans over the next two seasons with their signing of Foran. They could fit both AJ and Campbell with no Foran, AJ at #6.But with Foran one of them will be #14 and I doubt very happy with it. Hope it’s AJ, hope we have a stab at him… if Gus can’t get his real target which is Latrell.
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