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Not if we have a junior we want to try out.
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+x+xThe NRLol is a defective product. It is only one of two organisations that I know of where substandard performances and incompetence from the officials is tolerated. Oh the other one is the government. Is love to see Pauline running the sideline… I would love to see Pauline running off a cliff
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+x+xMulling over the past weeks events and I have had time to reflect. I have to admit I really do like Barrett and I was hoping he succeeded but having said that, there were three issues that brought his downfall. Firstly I must say he has a fantastic football brain and does have a good grasp of the game but he over-estimated the players abilities to understand and execute complex gameplans. His gameplans were too advanced for the average player so there was a breakdown in communications in that department and he then compounded the problem with failing to re-assess and simplify. Secondly he protected his underperforming coahing staff and should have taken action when it was realised we were gassed early in matches. Lastly, there is no problem with being friendly with the players outside of football but as their coach he should have been hard nosed and laid he law down to them both at training and on the field. That era has now passed, and is now onward and upwards. Go the Dogs. 100%. Agree. I had hopes for him even though we got the spoon last year, although some concerns started creeping in. What did it for me, is his inability to recognise something not working and being man enough to rectify it and admit it as failure. Contrast his interviews with Kevin Walters who wasn't afraid to admit error on his part and chante things around. All water under the bridge now, but he has effectively killed off any hope of a future head coaching career. Whatever the cause we just need to accept reality and get on with. He did help develop Yeo and IMO that shows his strength as a coach, attacking structures and improving players, also motivation. I think that his main problems are team selection and bench roation, these are important parts of coaching. Fitness was an issue mainly Ferris, but Baz had a role in appointing Ferris. The other issues were players not good enough or slow learners. My conclusion is, he is a great assistant, whether or not he can take the leap to be a lead coach is hard to say. He needs to learn from his failures.
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He just needs to know his players strengths and weaknesses and develope a gameplan around them, be careful who he selects as assistants and seperate work from his social life. Fast forward a couple of years and have another crack.
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Post Baz I think team selection and bench rotation are areas where Potter can make an impact.
While we were badly beaten in the first half against the Tigers these areas were improved.
Prior to that game I considered Stimson to be a better defender and attacker. So I can see why the coaches ran with him, and I would probably give credit to the Tigers coaches for exposing a weakness, plus our team being well off the pace.
I now have more confidence that Potter a co can get us back on track faster than if Baz had stayed.
2023 is a whole other issue, we need to get the right coach and coaching team, I'll trust that Gus and the club know what they are doing.
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Marki
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+xDufty going to England next year… is there any point in persisting with him in the 17???… Still think we lack too much in the halves to dump him, and I really want to avoid the spoon, so I wouldn't banish him to reserves just yet. I would certainly give Toia, JAC and even Casey a go. Maybe we can select the new guys on wing and swap them during the game?
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+xWhy haven’t I seen Matt Lodges name bandied about here yet???… Because he'll go to the cows for the balance of 2022, cows will release Drinkwater who will find his way to the Dogs for 2023. Hows that....I'm always up for a challenge!
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I reckon Lodge will be a dolphin in '23.
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+xHe just needs to know his players strengths and weaknesses and develope a gameplan around them, be careful who he selects as assistants and seperate work from his social life. Fast forward a couple of years and have another crack. Yes that is the othet aspect, but part of that is picking the right 17 and having the right roation. But players like Dufty, Flanagan and Naden also haven't worked out as well as he hoped. There comes a time when we need Plan B. Sticking with Plan A for too long when it isn't working can be terminal for a coach with a bad record. I now think going back to Flanagan was probably a mistake, in fact I wonder if we should have stuck with Averillo or perhaps Wakeham. The problem here is neither Plan A, B, or C really worked. That has bugger all to do with the coaches ability, the players just aren't good enough.
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+xI reckon Lodge will be a dolphin in '23. I think what the Dolphins need is a first grade halfback. Gus should offer them Flanagan, and they should swoop. He's exactly what they need. Even though it will hurt us abit, we will manage with our back-up in Wakeham.
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+x+xWhy haven’t I seen Matt Lodges name bandied about here yet???… Because he'll go to the cows for the balance of 2022, cows will release Drinkwater who will find his way to the Dogs for 2023. Hows that....I'm always up for a challenge! Drinkwater like Hynes is someone I have always rated. But Drinkwater is a very poor front line defender.
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+x+xI reckon Lodge will be a dolphin in '23. I think what the Dolphins need is a first grade halfback. Gus should offer them Flanagan, and they should swoop. He's exactly what they need. Even though it will hurt us abit, we will manage with our back-up in Wakeham. Old man Bennett didn't come down in the last shower, or in any storm in the last century. Jesus coached him in junior RL.
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+x+xHe just needs to know his players strengths and weaknesses and develope a gameplan around them, be careful who he selects as assistants and seperate work from his social life. Fast forward a couple of years and have another crack. Sticking with Plan A for too long when it isn't working can be terminal for a coach with a bad record. Not 'just' coaches with bad records.... ask Des.
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Isn't it funny how our stupid coaches favoured Lichaa ahead of Nu Brown, Zac Woolford and yet these latter guys are playing hooker elsewhere and doing well while no one wanted Lichaa...
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+x+x+xHe just needs to know his players strengths and weaknesses and develope a gameplan around them, be careful who he selects as assistants and seperate work from his social life. Fast forward a couple of years and have another crack. Sticking with Plan A for too long when it isn't working can be terminal for a coach with a bad record. Not 'just' coaches with bad records.... ask Des. Well Des WAS terminated at the end of the day so I think HD is spot on..
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But even when Plans A, B and C are not up to the task, the coach has to pick the best option and make it work.
Also work on Plan D.
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+x+xDufty going to England next year… is there any point in persisting with him in the 17???… Still think we lack too much in the halves to dump him, and I really want to avoid the spoon, so I wouldn't banish him to reserves just yet. I would certainly give Toia, JAC and even Casey a go. Maybe we can select the new guys on wing and swap them during the game? Toia is the obvious choice as our future fullback. Kiraz is the obvious winger. Allamoti the obvious centre. They all should be cheap and let us put money into an experienced halfback until Hayward is ready.
If the teams fitness is worked on all season a diff season we can dramatically improve. That’s why a coach and fitness trainer is essential asap.
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+x+x+x+xHe just needs to know his players strengths and weaknesses and develope a gameplan around them, be careful who he selects as assistants and seperate work from his social life. Fast forward a couple of years and have another crack. Sticking with Plan A for too long when it isn't working can be terminal for a coach with a bad record. Not 'just' coaches with bad records.... ask Des. Well Des WAS terminated at the end of the day so I think HD is spot on.. Des's record eventually became bad at our club, the last 2 seasons always count more than previous seasons. Like Baz I think Des is good at some things, and bad at others. A good club set up has people who can offer a coach good advice. A smart coach knows when to ask for advice and when to take it. Like Baz, Des kept sticking to Plan C when it wasn't working.
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+x+x+xDufty going to England next year… is there any point in persisting with him in the 17???… Still think we lack too much in the halves to dump him, and I really want to avoid the spoon, so I wouldn't banish him to reserves just yet. I would certainly give Toia, JAC and even Casey a go. Maybe we can select the new guys on wing and swap them during the game? Toia is the obvious choice as our future fullback. Kiraz is the obvious winger. Allamoti the obvious centre. They all should be cheap and let us put money into an experienced halfback until Hayward is ready.
If the teams fitness is worked on all season a diff season we can dramatically improve. That’s why a coach and fitness trainer is essential asap.
Similar thoughts. Fullback Toia, Casey or Averillo, Toia looks like the best prospect. Kiraz good at wing and centre but probably wing in a full strength line up. Alomotti not ready yet? But should be a great centre. After June 30th I would sign an experienced half, just to get a few more wins this season and ensure 2023 isn't an all or nothing bet that requires us to rush Hayward. I would ensure that we get the next coach and trainer right. No later than the end of August and hopefully by the end of July. They will have a limited role this season, but we need them to sit in a gauge where we are up to.
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Marki
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+x+x+xDufty going to England next year… is there any point in persisting with him in the 17???… Still think we lack too much in the halves to dump him, and I really want to avoid the spoon, so I wouldn't banish him to reserves just yet. I would certainly give Toia, JAC and even Casey a go. Maybe we can select the new guys on wing and swap them during the game? Toia is the obvious choice as our future fullback. Kiraz is the obvious winger. Allamoti the obvious centre. They all should be cheap and let us put money into an experienced halfback until Hayward is ready.
If the teams fitness is worked on all season a diff season we can dramatically improve. That’s why a coach and fitness trainer is essential asap.
Agreed. But the HB needs to be a game manager. Needs to understand fatigue (both in our team and in the opposition) as well as understand weakness in the opposition to exploit it. None of the guys we have played at HB so far fit the bill. It's why myself and HD would like to see someone like a Sezar or Pearce or someone of that ilk. Doesn't matter if they've lost a step due to age. Just need composure, direction and management. The kids you mentioned can then do their thing.
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+x+x+xMulling over the past weeks events and I have had time to reflect. I have to admit I really do like Barrett and I was hoping he succeeded but having said that, there were three issues that brought his downfall. Firstly I must say he has a fantastic football brain and does have a good grasp of the game but he over-estimated the players abilities to understand and execute complex gameplans. His gameplans were too advanced for the average player so there was a breakdown in communications in that department and he then compounded the problem with failing to re-assess and simplify. Secondly he protected his underperforming coahing staff and should have taken action when it was realised we were gassed early in matches. Lastly, there is no problem with being friendly with the players outside of football but as their coach he should have been hard nosed and laid he law down to them both at training and on the field. That era has now passed, and is now onward and upwards. Go the Dogs. 100%. Agree. I had hopes for him even though we got the spoon last year, although some concerns started creeping in. What did it for me, is his inability to recognise something not working and being man enough to rectify it and admit it as failure. Contrast his interviews with Kevin Walters who wasn't afraid to admit error on his part and chante things around. All water under the bridge now, but he has effectively killed off any hope of a future head coaching career. Whatever the cause we just need to accept reality and get on with. He did help develop Yeo and IMO that shows his strength as a coach, attacking structures and improving players, also motivation. I think that his main problems are team selection and bench roation, these are important parts of coaching. Fitness was an issue mainly Ferris, but Baz had a role in appointing Ferris. The other issues were players not good enough or slow learners. My conclusion is, he is a great assistant, whether or not he can take the leap to be a lead coach is hard to say. He needs to learn from his failures. An assistant he may be. A head coach he ain't, twice proven. I also note Penrith's attack hasn't suffered without him
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How good is Tom Starling?
Maybe I should be in charge of Bulldogs recruitment. From coaches, to players.... I have a key eye to spotting talent.
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Marki
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+x+x+x+xMulling over the past weeks events and I have had time to reflect. I have to admit I really do like Barrett and I was hoping he succeeded but having said that, there were three issues that brought his downfall. Firstly I must say he has a fantastic football brain and does have a good grasp of the game but he over-estimated the players abilities to understand and execute complex gameplans. His gameplans were too advanced for the average player so there was a breakdown in communications in that department and he then compounded the problem with failing to re-assess and simplify. Secondly he protected his underperforming coahing staff and should have taken action when it was realised we were gassed early in matches. Lastly, there is no problem with being friendly with the players outside of football but as their coach he should have been hard nosed and laid he law down to them both at training and on the field. That era has now passed, and is now onward and upwards. Go the Dogs. 100%. Agree. I had hopes for him even though we got the spoon last year, although some concerns started creeping in. What did it for me, is his inability to recognise something not working and being man enough to rectify it and admit it as failure. Contrast his interviews with Kevin Walters who wasn't afraid to admit error on his part and chante things around. All water under the bridge now, but he has effectively killed off any hope of a future head coaching career. Whatever the cause we just need to accept reality and get on with. He did help develop Yeo and IMO that shows his strength as a coach, attacking structures and improving players, also motivation. I think that his main problems are team selection and bench roation, these are important parts of coaching. Fitness was an issue mainly Ferris, but Baz had a role in appointing Ferris. The other issues were players not good enough or slow learners. My conclusion is, he is a great assistant, whether or not he can take the leap to be a lead coach is hard to say. He needs to learn from his failures. An assistant he may be. A head coach he ain't, twice proven. I also note Penrith's attack hasn't suffered without him Yep that the key point. It was all Cleary
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+x+xDufty going to England next year… is there any point in persisting with him in the 17???… Still think we lack too much in the halves to dump him, and I really want to avoid the spoon, so I wouldn't banish him to reserves just yet. I would certainly give Toia, JAC and even Casey a go. Maybe we can select the new guys on wing and swap them during the game? Finishing 14 or 15 instead of the spoon is insignificant to development for next year.
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+x+x+x+xDufty going to England next year… is there any point in persisting with him in the 17???… Still think we lack too much in the halves to dump him, and I really want to avoid the spoon, so I wouldn't banish him to reserves just yet. I would certainly give Toia, JAC and even Casey a go. Maybe we can select the new guys on wing and swap them during the game? Toia is the obvious choice as our future fullback. Kiraz is the obvious winger. Allamoti the obvious centre. They all should be cheap and let us put money into an experienced halfback until Hayward is ready.
If the teams fitness is worked on all season a diff season we can dramatically improve. That’s why a coach and fitness trainer is essential asap.
Similar thoughts. Fullback Toia, Casey or Averillo, Toia looks like the best prospect. Kiraz good at wing and centre but probably wing in a full strength line up. Alomotti not ready yet? But should be a great centre. After June 30th I would sign an experienced half, just to get a few more wins this season and ensure 2023 isn't an all or nothing bet that requires us to rush Hayward. I would ensure that we get the next coach and trainer right. No later than the end of August and hopefully by the end of July. They will have a limited role this season, but we need them to sit in a gauge where we are up to. Which available experienced half could we get?
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+x+x+x+x+xDufty going to England next year… is there any point in persisting with him in the 17???… Still think we lack too much in the halves to dump him, and I really want to avoid the spoon, so I wouldn't banish him to reserves just yet. I would certainly give Toia, JAC and even Casey a go. Maybe we can select the new guys on wing and swap them during the game? Toia is the obvious choice as our future fullback. Kiraz is the obvious winger. Allamoti the obvious centre. They all should be cheap and let us put money into an experienced halfback until Hayward is ready.
If the teams fitness is worked on all season a diff season we can dramatically improve. That’s why a coach and fitness trainer is essential asap.
Similar thoughts. Fullback Toia, Casey or Averillo, Toia looks like the best prospect. Kiraz good at wing and centre but probably wing in a full strength line up. Alomotti not ready yet? But should be a great centre. After June 30th I would sign an experienced half, just to get a few more wins this season and ensure 2023 isn't an all or nothing bet that requires us to rush Hayward. I would ensure that we get the next coach and trainer right. No later than the end of August and hopefully by the end of July. They will have a limited role this season, but we need them to sit in a gauge where we are up to. Which available experienced half could we get? I am not sure, some one like Sezer. Has to not have an NRL contract or be prepared to move. Just looking for better than what we currently have and composed.
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+xHow good is Tom Starling? Maybe I should be in charge of Bulldogs recruitment. From coaches, to players.... I have a key eye to spotting talent. Nah Marki, you wrecked it when you mentioned Sezer.
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Reserve grade won 42-0 Wakeham 7/7 goal kicking.
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+x+xHow good is Tom Starling? Maybe I should be in charge of Bulldogs recruitment. From coaches, to players.... I have a key eye to spotting talent. Nah Marki, you wrecked it when you mentioned Sezer. For once Marki is innocent - can Lodge play halfback? Everyone would have said Hastings was rubbish before this season.
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+x+x+x+xDufty going to England next year… is there any point in persisting with him in the 17???… Still think we lack too much in the halves to dump him, and I really want to avoid the spoon, so I wouldn't banish him to reserves just yet. I would certainly give Toia, JAC and even Casey a go. Maybe we can select the new guys on wing and swap them during the game? Toia is the obvious choice as our future fullback. Kiraz is the obvious winger. Allamoti the obvious centre. They all should be cheap and let us put money into an experienced halfback until Hayward is ready.
If the teams fitness is worked on all season a diff season we can dramatically improve. That’s why a coach and fitness trainer is essential asap.
Agreed. But the HB needs to be a game manager. Needs to understand fatigue (both in our team and in the opposition) as well as understand weakness in the opposition to exploit it. None of the guys we have played at HB so far fit the bill. It's why myself and HD would like to see someone like a Sezar or Pearce or someone of that ilk. Doesn't matter if they've lost a step due to age. Just need composure, direction and management. The kids you mentioned can then do their thing. Teams with experienced halfbacks are doing well this season. Sometimes that experienced half was previously considered a dud. Many of the younger halves are struggling.
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