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+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! Dont argue wirh the Doctor Villi..... Sorry Doc
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. Duffty at halfback might be a defensive disaster as might BBO. But BBO has at least defended in the halves in reserve grade for a few weeks. Atack wise Duffty can play half, but he is also a good fullback, the issue is his defence and error rate. I have seen enough to convince me Flanagan isn't likely to be a good half, but our options are limited at present. Will Smith from the Titans (formerly Eels) might be available, but he isn't a specalist half. Someone like Sezer is ideal or even one of the Panthers halves who played against us.
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This current team… It’s just a given that when someone makes a horror schoolboy mistake, they concede with nearly the very next set.
Happened all year… last week at Belmore, the Dogs were on the comeback, Thommo drops it, bang Saints scored.
Vaughan dropped it trying a hideous offload in traffic, bang, Panthers scored next set.
I can wear it when a pup does a mistake, but not when you’ve been in the top grade for years… and it’ll keep happening next game and the game after
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season.
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Reserve grade had a narrow win, the team listed by NSWRL includes Wakeham, that doesn't seem right.
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+xThis current team… It’s just a given that when someone makes a horror schoolboy mistake, they concede with nearly the very next set.
Happened all year… last week at Belmore, the Dogs were on the comeback, Thommo drops it, bang Saints scored.
Vaughan dropped it trying a hideous offload in traffic, bang, Panthers scored next set.
I can wear it when a pup does a mistake, but not when you’ve been in the top grade for years… and it’ll keep happening next game and the game after Every team makes the occasional mistake, but the better teams defend them. The better teams also convert the opportunities they are given. It is unlikely that there is a quick fix, but if the team can improve each week that is the best formula. I am glad Baz has left, but we mostly wasted rounds 1-10, it might not come together for a few more weeks, if it does this year. 2023 is completely different, new players, new coach a chance to get it right from round 1.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. You are assuming moving Duffty to halfback will increase our chance of winning. If that was an option why not play him in reserve grade for one week, that way if he ends up being a turnstile only reserve grade get flogged by 50.
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+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? I would prefer Kiraz. We don’t need either of the above two.
Fox, Schoup, Allamoti and Kiraz
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+xThis current team… It’s just a given that when someone makes a horror schoolboy mistake, they concede with nearly the very next set.
Happened all year… last week at Belmore, the Dogs were on the comeback, Thommo drops it, bang Saints scored.
Vaughan dropped it trying a hideous offload in traffic, bang, Panthers scored next set.
I can wear it when a pup does a mistake, but not when you’ve been in the top grade for years… and it’ll keep happening next game and the game after Yep. But I blame the inability to defend errors as part out our mental problem. Instead of rallying and working harder to overcome the error, too often compound it with another. The good teams are able to overcome errors and that's why it seems that they make less.
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+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? I would prefer Kiraz. We don’t need either of the above two.
Fox, Schoup, Allamoti and Kiraz I wasn’t talking about signing Corey Thompson…
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. You are assuming moving Duffty to halfback will increase our chance of winning. If that was an option why not play him in reserve grade for one week, that way if he ends up being a turnstile only reserve grade get flogged by 50. Yep. Good point. I'd like to see it. The other option is put him on the bench amd throw him in for 20mins.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. We're in the second half of the season now. We can now experiment or find out if players are up to it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. We're in the second half of the season now. We can now experiment or find out if players are up to it. We can try a few new players and a few positional shifts while trying to win games. Part of preparing for next season is giving the right players experience in the right positions. And part is the team developing good habits, making fewer errors defending better, improving execution, building combinations. It is harder to build combinations if we change the team too frequently. Averillo needs a decent run at fullback, and we should try Credence T if he is fit and available and time permits also only if he will be here next season. Halfback we need to try someone new, who is a big question. We might click at anytime, especially if we find a good option for halfback and get a few injured forwards back on deck.
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I keep forgetting that we have also signed Sutton, he looks like a good player.
Raiders are a Smokey this season, they have a good mix of quality, depth and desire.
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NSW cup update
Duffty played fullback.
Hayward back, but nominally played 5/8 with BBO at half. Sometimes numbers mean nothing.
Also Tola back as an unused reserve.
If we get Doorey, Thompson and TPJ back our squad depth will be good especially if we make 1 or 2 signings before June 30th.
Most interesting is if Duffty fights his way back into NRL, plays in the halves in reserve grade or goes to England.
I want Tola back playing fullback in reserves ASAP.
Come on HRH, that big party must have raked in some cash, buy a fullback for your favorite pom footy team.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. We're in the second half of the season now. We can now experiment or find out if players are up to it. Which dhouldve happened with shit like Avo to FB, JJ to prop/bench, and JMK left right out ages ago…
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+xI keep forgetting that we have also signed Sutton, he looks like a good player. Raiders are a Smokey this season, they have a good mix of quality, depth and desire. Ever since Villi brought Elliot into his Sac Team, Raiders have been on fire… look out Lachy, Theresa new man of steel in the scene!!!…
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+x+xI keep forgetting that we have also signed Sutton, he looks like a good player. Raiders are a Smokey this season, they have a good mix of quality, depth and desire. Ever since Villi brought Elliot into his Sac Team, Raiders have been on fire… look out Lachy, Theresa new man of steel in the scene!!!… SC* not sac.. though…….
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. Dufty to halfback will get us used to winning? That's off with the pixies stuff.
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+x+xI keep forgetting that we have also signed Sutton, he looks like a good player. Raiders are a Smokey this season, they have a good mix of quality, depth and desire. Ever since Villi brought Elliot into his Sac Team, Raiders have been on fire… look out Lachy, Theresa new man of steel in the scene!!!… Congrats on yet another victory over team Wolfpack this week! And…. Happy Birthday for the other week Dman
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. Dufty to halfback will get us used to winning? That's off with the pixies stuff. Dufty's mindset is attack at all costs. We need that at HB tight now as Flanno's MO is just feed the ball to someone in no better position to make anything from it. It's usually a telegraphed inside pass to a player running straight back at the markers. Dufty would throw too many miracle balls, but it will certainly keep the defence worried. The problem is where do you hide him in defence? Maybe he's ok if he's got supporting tacklers next to him?
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+x+x+xI keep forgetting that we have also signed Sutton, he looks like a good player. Raiders are a Smokey this season, they have a good mix of quality, depth and desire. Ever since Villi brought Elliot into his Sac Team, Raiders have been on fire… look out Lachy, Theresa new man of steel in the scene!!!… Congrats on yet another victory over team Wolfpack this week! And…. Happy Birthday for the other week Dman Thanks bruz… Always tough in the bye week.. you’re tracking nicely fir a Top 1000 finish (no mean feat for the uninitiated)…. Elliot crushing it for you…
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. Dufty to halfback will get us used to winning? That's off with the pixies stuff. Dufty's mindset is attack at all costs. We need that at HB tight now as Flanno's MO is just feed the ball to someone in no better position to make anything from it. It's usually a telegraphed inside pass to a player running straight back at the markers. Dufty would throw too many miracle balls, but it will certainly keep the defence worried. The problem is where do you hide him in defence? Maybe he's ok if he's got supporting tacklers next to him? Maybe we should try Hayward off the bench against the Tigers, give him a taste of NRL.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. Dufty to halfback will get us used to winning? That's off with the pixies stuff. Dufty's mindset is attack at all costs. We need that at HB tight now as Flanno's MO is just feed the ball to someone in no better position to make anything from it. It's usually a telegraphed inside pass to a player running straight back at the markers. Dufty would throw too many miracle balls, but it will certainly keep the defence worried. The problem is where do you hide him in defence? Maybe he's ok if he's got supporting tacklers next to him? Maybe we should try Hayward off the bench against the Tigers, give him a taste of NRL. I think Flanno is contacted for 2023, playing him now may increase our chances of offloading him. If Hayward is too young and not yet physically ready for NRL, then don't play him. But if Hayward seems ready, start ZDC at halfback and bring Hayward on before the 60 min mark. We are often in games after 60 mins and in that last quarter of the game we can't get the job done. If the experiment worked, we could move Duffty to halfback in reserve grade, Tola to fullback and play Wakeham/BBO at 14 off the bench in reserve grade. Doing what is right for 2023 is more important than the extra win or 2 this season. We can also try Alamotti in the NRL at some stage, even though his defence needs some work. No question about him being physically ready. Just a handful of NRL games this year can help the young guys prepare for 2023, provided that they are physically up to it and mentally ready.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. We're in the second half of the season now. We can now experiment or find out if players are up to it. Which dhouldve happened with shit like Avo to FB, JJ to prop/bench, and JMK left right out ages ago… You forgot Mock to coach.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. Dufty to halfback will get us used to winning? That's off with the pixies stuff. Dufty's mindset is attack at all costs. We need that at HB tight now as Flanno's MO is just feed the ball to someone in no better position to make anything from it. It's usually a telegraphed inside pass to a player running straight back at the markers. Dufty would throw too many miracle balls, but it will certainly keep the defence worried. The problem is where do you hide him in defence? Maybe he's ok if he's got supporting tacklers next to him? Maybe we should try Hayward off the bench against the Tigers, give him a taste of NRL. I think Flanno is contacted for 2023, playing him now may increase our chances of offloading him. If Hayward is too young and not yet physically ready for NRL, then don't play him. But if Hayward seems ready, start ZDC at halfback and bring Hayward on before the 60 min mark. We are often in games after 60 mins and in that last quarter of the game we can't get the job done. If the experiment worked, we could move Duffty to halfback in reserve grade, Tola to fullback and play Wakeham/BBO at 14 off the bench in reserve grade. Doing what is right for 2023 is more important than the extra win or 2 this season. We can also try Alamotti in the NRL at some stage, even though his defence needs some work. No question about him being physically ready. Just a handful of NRL games this year can help the young guys prepare for 2023, provided that they are physically up to it and mentally ready. Playing guys in NRL should only be a sweetener for them to know the intent is to ease them into first grade next year. In fact, if I were Gould and the new coach, I'd pull them to the side and tell them exactly that. That we intend to promote them in first grade next year and we will only selectively give them game time this year so there is no pressure to perform from the get go. Before that however, I'd rather we still spend the next 8 or so weeks trying to get into a winning or competitive mindframe. The kids can then have ladt 5 games as experience
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. Dufty to halfback will get us used to winning? That's off with the pixies stuff. Dufty's mindset is attack at all costs. We need that at HB tight now as Flanno's MO is just feed the ball to someone in no better position to make anything from it. It's usually a telegraphed inside pass to a player running straight back at the markers. Dufty would throw too many miracle balls, but it will certainly keep the defence worried. The problem is where do you hide him in defence? Maybe he's ok if he's got supporting tacklers next to him? Maybe we should try Hayward off the bench against the Tigers, give him a taste of NRL. I think Flanno is contacted for 2023, playing him now may increase our chances of offloading him. If Hayward is too young and not yet physically ready for NRL, then don't play him. But if Hayward seems ready, start ZDC at halfback and bring Hayward on before the 60 min mark. We are often in games after 60 mins and in that last quarter of the game we can't get the job done. If the experiment worked, we could move Duffty to halfback in reserve grade, Tola to fullback and play Wakeham/BBO at 14 off the bench in reserve grade. Doing what is right for 2023 is more important than the extra win or 2 this season. We can also try Alamotti in the NRL at some stage, even though his defence needs some work. No question about him being physically ready. Just a handful of NRL games this year can help the young guys prepare for 2023, provided that they are physically up to it and mentally ready. Playing guys in NRL should only be a sweetener for them to know the intent is to ease them into first grade next year. In fact, if I were Gould and the new coach, I'd pull them to the side and tell them exactly that. That we intend to promote them in first grade next year and we will only selectively give them game time this year so there is no pressure to perform from the get go. Before that however, I'd rather we still spend the next 8 or so weeks trying to get into a winning or competitive mindframe. The kids can then have ladt 5 games as experience We don't have a new coach.
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The young gun from Fiji did his ACL but will be right for preseason.
Source: Gus on Twitter.
We also have Lumelume in reserve grade who made 197 running metres in reserve grade. We have a few options besides Okunbor.
Reserve grade losts the penalty count 12-6- 2 guys in the bin at one stage.
Inspite of that impressive stats, including leading the linebreaks 6-2.
Sometimes a win is better than the scoreline suggests.
Gus on Twitter is great.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. Dufty to halfback will get us used to winning? That's off with the pixies stuff. Dufty's mindset is attack at all costs. We need that at HB tight now as Flanno's MO is just feed the ball to someone in no better position to make anything from it. It's usually a telegraphed inside pass to a player running straight back at the markers. Dufty would throw too many miracle balls, but it will certainly keep the defence worried. The problem is where do you hide him in defence? Maybe he's ok if he's got supporting tacklers next to him? Maybe we should try Hayward off the bench against the Tigers, give him a taste of NRL. I think Flanno is contacted for 2023, playing him now may increase our chances of offloading him. If Hayward is too young and not yet physically ready for NRL, then don't play him. But if Hayward seems ready, start ZDC at halfback and bring Hayward on before the 60 min mark. We are often in games after 60 mins and in that last quarter of the game we can't get the job done. If the experiment worked, we could move Duffty to halfback in reserve grade, Tola to fullback and play Wakeham/BBO at 14 off the bench in reserve grade. Doing what is right for 2023 is more important than the extra win or 2 this season. We can also try Alamotti in the NRL at some stage, even though his defence needs some work. No question about him being physically ready. Just a handful of NRL games this year can help the young guys prepare for 2023, provided that they are physically up to it and mentally ready. Playing guys in NRL should only be a sweetener for them to know the intent is to ease them into first grade next year. In fact, if I were Gould and the new coach, I'd pull them to the side and tell them exactly that. That we intend to promote them in first grade next year and we will only selectively give them game time this year so there is no pressure to perform from the get go. Before that however, I'd rather we still spend the next 8 or so weeks trying to get into a winning or competitive mindframe. The kids can then have ladt 5 games as experience We don't have a new coach. According to Gus, before the season, but no rush.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's be clear on something. JOK must be in this team. Yes he has errors in him, but he runs the ball up a certain way that gives us some metres out of our end and he has some sort of presence out there. Our wins have featured him in the team. Play JAC and JOK on the wings and play Kiraz and Schoupp in the centres. Piss both Flanno and JMK out of the team. That's a start. He has some size about him? Yes he does, but is always flattened by guys half the size of him. He also gets out jumped by guys half his bloody size too.
He is absolutely f%cking uselsss! You need to get off the fence. Okunbor has the body and the game, but can he get his mind of the job, and his attitude right? He was better earlier in his career, a spell in reserve grade might help him focus. Corey Thompson vs JOK Who would you rather have in the trenches giving the team 100% for the full 80mins playing first grade? Thompson no question. There is no substitute for talent, but even less substitute for attitude and desire. If we could have Okunbor playing with the same desire as Thompson, that is a completely different matter. But this season talent is a bigger issue than attitude, even with guys like Okunbor, Duffty and Naden failing badly on attitude when the going got tough. I'd take Thompson as I've always been a fan of him and he always plays above his weight. He's also been part of a team with a better winning culture than us the last 3 years so he's more confident in what he does. But im talking about this year with our current crop of players. I feel our team needs some stability until they can get a win and then turn it I to B2B wins. Our key problem however tends to be our I ability to hit the advantage line at speed and JMK is a huge part of this problem along with the forwards timing their runs and coaches failing to address it. Flanno at halfback is equally a massive problem with poor decision making. Dufty HB can address it. This year's done and dusted. Nothing to be gained going forward by Dufty to halfback. We can't afford to waste the season without getting use to winning. I don't care if he's here next year or not. You play your best team or players unless its literally only to throw someone in for the experience and only really in the last few games of the season. Dufty to halfback will get us used to winning? That's off with the pixies stuff. Dufty's mindset is attack at all costs. We need that at HB tight now as Flanno's MO is just feed the ball to someone in no better position to make anything from it. It's usually a telegraphed inside pass to a player running straight back at the markers. Dufty would throw too many miracle balls, but it will certainly keep the defence worried. The problem is where do you hide him in defence? Maybe he's ok if he's got supporting tacklers next to him? Maybe we should try Hayward off the bench against the Tigers, give him a taste of NRL. I think Flanno is contacted for 2023, playing him now may increase our chances of offloading him. If Hayward is too young and not yet physically ready for NRL, then don't play him. But if Hayward seems ready, start ZDC at halfback and bring Hayward on before the 60 min mark. We are often in games after 60 mins and in that last quarter of the game we can't get the job done. If the experiment worked, we could move Duffty to halfback in reserve grade, Tola to fullback and play Wakeham/BBO at 14 off the bench in reserve grade. Doing what is right for 2023 is more important than the extra win or 2 this season. We can also try Alamotti in the NRL at some stage, even though his defence needs some work. No question about him being physically ready. Just a handful of NRL games this year can help the young guys prepare for 2023, provided that they are physically up to it and mentally ready. Playing guys in NRL should only be a sweetener for them to know the intent is to ease them into first grade next year. In fact, if I were Gould and the new coach, I'd pull them to the side and tell them exactly that. That we intend to promote them in first grade next year and we will only selectively give them game time this year so there is no pressure to perform from the get go. Before that however, I'd rather we still spend the next 8 or so weeks trying to get into a winning or competitive mindframe. The kids can then have ladt 5 games as experience I don't think playing the young guys will substantially reduce our chances of winning, depending on who they replace, it may increase our chances of winning. The young guys probably can't back up for 10 straight weeks of NRL. For some of the current team, I have seen enough, for others a bit more competition might help them lift intensity.
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