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+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Unfortunately I don't think they do (know how bad they can be). They actually tried.....well most of them did. Some too much (Reed, Flanno). Others didn't (WC returning players). Not end of the world but it was just another game that had stakes attached to it and couldn't rise for the occasion. It's easy to dismiss it as just another trial but it was also the opportunity for the club to win something for the long suffering fans. I know the end goal is to try and win a premiership but let's face it.... we are a good 3-5 years from that and this was a chance to win something. EPL teams still want the League Cup and Carabao cup in their cupboards. Let's hope the ones that underperformed step up when it counts..I dony want to hear "they are underdone" as an excuse There was NOTHING attached to it. Neither team we’re trying to win the “cup” simply because to win it you had to play in a manner that was outside of the game you’re trying to perfect. For either Sharks or us to win it would’ve required doing offloads we weren’t in a position to do, the sort of thing you try and cut out of your game. Note Sharks didn’t try to win it when they had everything else but the offloads. They just wanted to perfect their game. Sure $100k’s nice but it was always the sort of “comp” that falls in the lap of the winner. It’s not won, it’s just something that happens if you win your games and things go your way. Do you really want us or any other team to target that thing next year? Practise for it? Design a game plan for it? It's more a case of if you happen to be in the position, you may as well go for it. It's not a nothing game. Neither is the world club challenge. Super league teams always show up for the world club challenge. When played in the UK, many NRL teams put in half arsed efforts as it's their pre-season. Back to this one, we may or not wanted to go for it. The team and CC would know this. I'm more concerned of the half arsed efforts of key players in the team.
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+xJust on the cricket and I have 3 things to say... 1) its clear as day that the Aussie batsmen were instructed by inner sanctum (coaches, captain, etc) to sweep, and they did. Why the batsmen haven't come out to defend themselves and voice it is beyond me. 2) Australia's timid approach to enforcing follow ons has led the team to a false sense of security and allowed out of form players to stay in the team. By not killing off games early and not batting twice, AUS has forgotten how to strategise a Test match that will end before day 5. Their ability to adjust to a short Test match was on full view. They came out with a strategy, it was found out, they didn't adjust and make changes and were bundled for 115. There was no draw or weather option to save them. This is both a coaching, captain and individual problem. 3) Doctoring pitches. At what point will the ICC step in and do something about pitches that are either batter friendly or bowler friendly? Everyone wants a contest between bat and ball but it seems India has realised they have a huge edge with spin bowler friendly wickets against the Aussies and so they curate the accordingly. It seems to have less if an impact against other nations. 1. The last thing any player should be doing is defending themselves in public… I’ve had just about enough of players like our players talking despite them being encouraged to be stunning and brave… Im sure the plan wasn’t to sweep every ball… or play the cross bat slog first ball, which for some reason has been labelled a sweep… 2. No… just no… Conflation at its best… 3. I’m all for reasonable ‘home ground’ pitches… and they were both reasonable… we simply didn’t have the skill, apply ourselves, and made poor shot choices… Are the selectors on the plane home yet???… They allowed the lunatics to run the stunning&brave asylum…
Warner should’ve been nudged after the home summer…
Head should never have been left out of 1st test…
They continue to Fvck with young and returning blokes heads…
3 spinners including a 1 Test veteran and a debutant was nuts… did they doubt the Goat so much after 1 ordinary match???… or did they go horses for courses as policy instead of picking the best available team???…
The fielding has been sub par… the captaincy in both field placement and bowling rotations questionable at best… I dare say negative… and has been for some time…
Boland looked most likely of the quicks so far bending his back… We’ve seen zero aggression from our skipper when bowling…
I think we are absolutely going to sh1t ourselves when bowling against what I’ve seen of Bazball… Wven if we have Hazelwood back…
I thought I should do a long post as at first glance of the page today it seems de rigueur…
Great to se the BDP in close to full swing leading into a massive year…
Perhaps someone could post something about shoes to see if we can stir a sleeping giant…
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+x+xIt looks like the sharks will be hard to best this season. Yeah I expect them to do well. Blind Freddy could see that Hynes was a special player with him excelling in the few opportunities he got at Storm. But it's the rise of other players that has also been influential. Moylan has been great and finally feels comfortable in this team. Their backs are very strong and have points in them. They lack abit in forwards but the rest of team makes up for it. Wilton is a gun… Nikita runs great lines and plays as tough as any… They have a couple of big boppers who get quick PTB… their hooker is quality… Funicane, need I say more… McInnes, the Mock don’t rate him… Wade, past it… Trindall and Williams talented… Methinks you underrate that pack…
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+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Yes a timely reality check. What we've seen in the build up to the season is mostly razzmatazz, The first two episodes of the kennel being a prime example. Now to the football. Still I don't think that there is any reason to panic. On fitness we looked fairly fit in both trials. Canberra didn't throw much at us trial 1 but we handled it in a canter. Against the Sharks, the ball got slippery we dropped a lot of ball, Sharks had a good run of possession. RFM and our middle fowards had a solid work out. Overall- fitter than previous seasons. Defence - again IMO better than previous seasons. The issues we had were Perham cleaning up kicks and the right edge of Flanno, RFM and Averillo. RFM was too slow to cover from the inside, Flanno hang back and Averillo went up. CC says that everyone has a job to do in defence, someone, perhaps more than 1 wasn't on the right page. Otherwise we defended fairly well especially in the middle. Attack - Marhoney, Kicks, Nu-Brown, Grub, Alamotti and Skelton add something, Averillo looks fast and sharp. Generally our ball movement is more fluid and we have more variety. When the ball got slippery Flanno was standing too far from Lou, asking the dummy-half to throw the ball a long way. Perham is also very clunky in attack. Still overall the team is better than previous seasons. We don't want to be in the business of replacing the coach every season, CC deserves a fair shot and rebuilding might take more than 1 season. Will admit I panicked a bit… which is rare for me with trails… I think I just have huge expectations this year… Glad Lou got what will surely be his worst game for the season out of the way…
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+x+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Unfortunately I don't think they do (know how bad they can be). They actually tried.....well most of them did. Some too much (Reed, Flanno). Others didn't (WC returning players). Not end of the world but it was just another game that had stakes attached to it and couldn't rise for the occasion. It's easy to dismiss it as just another trial but it was also the opportunity for the club to win something for the long suffering fans. I know the end goal is to try and win a premiership but let's face it.... we are a good 3-5 years from that and this was a chance to win something. EPL teams still want the League Cup and Carabao cup in their cupboards. Let's hope the ones that underperformed step up when it counts..I dony want to hear "they are underdone" as an excuse There was NOTHING attached to it. Neither team we’re trying to win the “cup” simply because to win it you had to play in a manner that was outside of the game you’re trying to perfect. For either Sharks or us to win it would’ve required doing offloads we weren’t in a position to do, the sort of thing you try and cut out of your game. Note Sharks didn’t try to win it when they had everything else but the offloads. They just wanted to perfect their game. Sure $100k’s nice but it was always the sort of “comp” that falls in the lap of the winner. It’s not won, it’s just something that happens if you win your games and things go your way. Do you really want us or any other team to target that thing next year? Practise for it? Design a game plan for it? It's more a case of if you happen to be in the position, you may as well go for it. It's not a nothing game. Neither is the world club challenge. Super league teams always show up for the world club challenge. When played in the UK, many NRL teams put in half arsed efforts as it's their pre-season. Back to this one, we may or not wanted to go for it. The team and CC would know this. I'm more concerned of the half arsed efforts of key players in the team. Well Sharks were in a position and didn’t… Workd Club Challenge is different… it’s long established, and there’s plenty of pride at stake… I’d suggest the Nothing Cup wasn’t even discussed by CC and the Team… Knowing the NRLol is probably deducted from next years cap…
If it mattered, it’s highly unlikely they’d have been flogged in mid 30 degree temps the day before… which may also be why some where flat… not to mention we flattened ourselves with errors…
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Credit to MDog for the ‘Nothin Cup’…
I wonder how hard Seibold let his players celebrate that important win… And the Penns likely split more $$$ at dinner the night before…
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+x+xJust on the cricket and I have 3 things to say... 1) its clear as day that the Aussie batsmen were instructed by inner sanctum (coaches, captain, etc) to sweep, and they did. Why the batsmen haven't come out to defend themselves and voice it is beyond me. 2) Australia's timid approach to enforcing follow ons has led the team to a false sense of security and allowed out of form players to stay in the team. By not killing off games early and not batting twice, AUS has forgotten how to strategise a Test match that will end before day 5. Their ability to adjust to a short Test match was on full view. They came out with a strategy, it was found out, they didn't adjust and make changes and were bundled for 115. There was no draw or weather option to save them. This is both a coaching, captain and individual problem. 3) Doctoring pitches. At what point will the ICC step in and do something about pitches that are either batter friendly or bowler friendly? Everyone wants a contest between bat and ball but it seems India has realised they have a huge edge with spin bowler friendly wickets against the Aussies and so they curate the accordingly. It seems to have less if an impact against other nations. 1. The last thing any player should be doing is defending themselves in public… I’ve had just about enough of players like our players talking despite them being encouraged to be stunning and brave… Im sure the plan wasn’t to sweep every ball… or play the cross bat slog first ball, which for some reason has been labelled a sweep… 2. No… just no… Conflation at its best… 3. I’m all for reasonable ‘home ground’ pitches… and they were both reasonable… we simply didn’t have the skill, apply ourselves, and made poor shot choices… Are the selectors on the plane home yet???… They allowed the lunatics to run the stunning&brave asylum…
Warner should’ve been nudged after the home summer…
Head should never have been left out of 1st test…
They continue to Fvck with young and returning blokes heads…
3 spinners including a 1 Test veteran and a debutant was nuts… did they doubt the Goat so much after 1 ordinary match???… or did they go horses for courses as policy instead of picking the best available team???…
The fielding has been sub par… the captaincy in both field placement and bowling rotations questionable at best… I dare say negative… and has been for some time…
Boland looked most likely of the quicks so far bending his back… We’ve seen zero aggression from our skipper when bowling…
I think we are absolutely going to sh1t ourselves when bowling against what I’ve seen of Bazball… Wven if we have Hazelwood back…
I thought I should do a long post as at first glance of the page today it seems de rigueur…
Great to se the BDP in close to full swing leading into a massive year…
Perhaps someone could post something about shoes to see if we can stir a sleeping giant… Well at least we agree that Cummins should be demoted from the captaincy. Let Smith take it. We were at least more ruthless under him
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+x+x+xIt looks like the sharks will be hard to best this season. Yeah I expect them to do well. Blind Freddy could see that Hynes was a special player with him excelling in the few opportunities he got at Storm. But it's the rise of other players that has also been influential. Moylan has been great and finally feels comfortable in this team. Their backs are very strong and have points in them. They lack abit in forwards but the rest of team makes up for it. Wilton is a gun… Nikita runs great lines and plays as tough as any… They have a couple of big boppers who get quick PTB… their hooker is quality… Funicane, need I say more… McInnes, the Mock don’t rate him… Wade, past it… Trindall and Williams talented… Methinks you underrate that pack… They are effective when playing fast. I don't think they go terribly well in those low scoring grudge games, but these days the NRL is played as high tempo with high mobility. I think the sharks are a team that doesn't need their pack to win the battle for their backs to win the game.... And yes, that McKiness is garbage. Never rated him.
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If there are any Supercoaches out there keen to ply their trade in a reasonably competitive, no zombie team league, the code for the Stunning&brave league is 518031… We are celebrating Diversity, Inclusion, Equity… #istandwhenicantsit….
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+x+x+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Unfortunately I don't think they do (know how bad they can be). They actually tried.....well most of them did. Some too much (Reed, Flanno). Others didn't (WC returning players). Not end of the world but it was just another game that had stakes attached to it and couldn't rise for the occasion. It's easy to dismiss it as just another trial but it was also the opportunity for the club to win something for the long suffering fans. I know the end goal is to try and win a premiership but let's face it.... we are a good 3-5 years from that and this was a chance to win something. EPL teams still want the League Cup and Carabao cup in their cupboards. Let's hope the ones that underperformed step up when it counts..I dony want to hear "they are underdone" as an excuse There was NOTHING attached to it. Neither team we’re trying to win the “cup” simply because to win it you had to play in a manner that was outside of the game you’re trying to perfect. For either Sharks or us to win it would’ve required doing offloads we weren’t in a position to do, the sort of thing you try and cut out of your game. Note Sharks didn’t try to win it when they had everything else but the offloads. They just wanted to perfect their game. Sure $100k’s nice but it was always the sort of “comp” that falls in the lap of the winner. It’s not won, it’s just something that happens if you win your games and things go your way. Do you really want us or any other team to target that thing next year? Practise for it? Design a game plan for it? It's more a case of if you happen to be in the position, you may as well go for it. It's not a nothing game. Neither is the world club challenge. Super league teams always show up for the world club challenge. When played in the UK, many NRL teams put in half arsed efforts as it's their pre-season. Back to this one, we may or not wanted to go for it. The team and CC would know this. I'm more concerned of the half arsed efforts of key players in the team. Well Sharks were in a position and didn’t… Workd Club Challenge is different… it’s long established, and there’s plenty of pride at stake… I’d suggest the Nothing Cup wasn’t even discussed by CC and the Team… Knowing the NRLol is probably deducted from next years cap…
If it mattered, it’s highly unlikely they’d have been flogged in mid 30 degree temps the day before… which may also be why some where flat… not to mention we flattened ourselves with errors…
Well that flogging can count against CC. I see no benefit in flogging players especially before a game also to be played in extreme heat. Poor judgement from CC and the trainers. You would think at some point in the trials, the coach sends a message to flick a switch and see if what they've been working on can be pulled off in match conditions. Didn't see it, except by JR, Skelton and co late in the game, or by the B+Team in the first trial. I hope they surprise me come round 1 but I'm certainly nowhere near as confident anymore. I think this year will be another year of us fluking tries off kicks or opposition errors. You aren't competitive playing like that. You just avoid the spoon.
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+x+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Yes a timely reality check. What we've seen in the build up to the season is mostly razzmatazz, The first two episodes of the kennel being a prime example. Now to the football. Still I don't think that there is any reason to panic. On fitness we looked fairly fit in both trials. Canberra didn't throw much at us trial 1 but we handled it in a canter. Against the Sharks, the ball got slippery we dropped a lot of ball, Sharks had a good run of possession. RFM and our middle fowards had a solid work out. Overall- fitter than previous seasons. Defence - again IMO better than previous seasons. The issues we had were Perham cleaning up kicks and the right edge of Flanno, RFM and Averillo. RFM was too slow to cover from the inside, Flanno hang back and Averillo went up. CC says that everyone has a job to do in defence, someone, perhaps more than 1 wasn't on the right page. Otherwise we defended fairly well especially in the middle. Attack - Marhoney, Kicks, Nu-Brown, Grub, Alamotti and Skelton add something, Averillo looks fast and sharp. Generally our ball movement is more fluid and we have more variety. When the ball got slippery Flanno was standing too far from Lou, asking the dummy-half to throw the ball a long way. Perham is also very clunky in attack. Still overall the team is better than previous seasons. We don't want to be in the business of replacing the coach every season, CC deserves a fair shot and rebuilding might take more than 1 season. Will admit I panicked a bit… which is rare for me with trails… I think I just have huge expectations this year… Glad Lou got what will surely be his worst game for the season out of the way… Compared to us, the Sharks have a settled spine with quality players in each position. We had definate issues at half and fullback. Lou struggled a bit with the slippery slippery ball and we have some defensive issues to sort out. We need work out our best spine for first few rounds and stick to it. I am more looking for improvement year-to-year and week-to-week and fighting spirit. We will lose some games, I want the team to go down fighting. 6th-8th would be a good finish we need 2 or more wins out of the first 5 and week-to-week improvement. I'm going to panic when we lose 3 in a row abd seem to be going backwards.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Unfortunately I don't think they do (know how bad they can be). They actually tried.....well most of them did. Some too much (Reed, Flanno). Others didn't (WC returning players). Not end of the world but it was just another game that had stakes attached to it and couldn't rise for the occasion. It's easy to dismiss it as just another trial but it was also the opportunity for the club to win something for the long suffering fans. I know the end goal is to try and win a premiership but let's face it.... we are a good 3-5 years from that and this was a chance to win something. EPL teams still want the League Cup and Carabao cup in their cupboards. Let's hope the ones that underperformed step up when it counts..I dony want to hear "they are underdone" as an excuse There was NOTHING attached to it. Neither team we’re trying to win the “cup” simply because to win it you had to play in a manner that was outside of the game you’re trying to perfect. For either Sharks or us to win it would’ve required doing offloads we weren’t in a position to do, the sort of thing you try and cut out of your game. Note Sharks didn’t try to win it when they had everything else but the offloads. They just wanted to perfect their game. Sure $100k’s nice but it was always the sort of “comp” that falls in the lap of the winner. It’s not won, it’s just something that happens if you win your games and things go your way. Do you really want us or any other team to target that thing next year? Practise for it? Design a game plan for it? It's more a case of if you happen to be in the position, you may as well go for it. It's not a nothing game. Neither is the world club challenge. Super league teams always show up for the world club challenge. When played in the UK, many NRL teams put in half arsed efforts as it's their pre-season. Back to this one, we may or not wanted to go for it. The team and CC would know this. I'm more concerned of the half arsed efforts of key players in the team. Well Sharks were in a position and didn’t… Workd Club Challenge is different… it’s long established, and there’s plenty of pride at stake… I’d suggest the Nothing Cup wasn’t even discussed by CC and the Team… Knowing the NRLol is probably deducted from next years cap…
If it mattered, it’s highly unlikely they’d have been flogged in mid 30 degree temps the day before… which may also be why some where flat… not to mention we flattened ourselves with errors…
Well that flogging can count against CC. I see no benefit in flogging players especially before a game also to be played in extreme heat. Poor judgement from CC and the trainers. You would think at some point in the trials, the coach sends a message to flick a switch and see if what they've been working on can be pulled off in match conditions. Didn't see it, except by JR, Skelton and co late in the game, or by the B+Team in the first trial. I hope they surprise me come round 1 but I'm certainly nowhere near as confident anymore. I think this year will be another year of us fluking tries off kicks or opposition errors. You aren't competitive playing like that. You just avoid the spoon. I was a trial not a GF. The aim was probably getting players match fit and getting a better idea of what players could do. We were trying to win, but that wasn't the primary objective. Gus speaks very positively about the off season preparation.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Unfortunately I don't think they do (know how bad they can be). They actually tried.....well most of them did. Some too much (Reed, Flanno). Others didn't (WC returning players). Not end of the world but it was just another game that had stakes attached to it and couldn't rise for the occasion. It's easy to dismiss it as just another trial but it was also the opportunity for the club to win something for the long suffering fans. I know the end goal is to try and win a premiership but let's face it.... we are a good 3-5 years from that and this was a chance to win something. EPL teams still want the League Cup and Carabao cup in their cupboards. Let's hope the ones that underperformed step up when it counts..I dony want to hear "they are underdone" as an excuse There was NOTHING attached to it. Neither team we’re trying to win the “cup” simply because to win it you had to play in a manner that was outside of the game you’re trying to perfect. For either Sharks or us to win it would’ve required doing offloads we weren’t in a position to do, the sort of thing you try and cut out of your game. Note Sharks didn’t try to win it when they had everything else but the offloads. They just wanted to perfect their game. Sure $100k’s nice but it was always the sort of “comp” that falls in the lap of the winner. It’s not won, it’s just something that happens if you win your games and things go your way. Do you really want us or any other team to target that thing next year? Practise for it? Design a game plan for it? It's more a case of if you happen to be in the position, you may as well go for it. It's not a nothing game. Neither is the world club challenge. Super league teams always show up for the world club challenge. When played in the UK, many NRL teams put in half arsed efforts as it's their pre-season. Back to this one, we may or not wanted to go for it. The team and CC would know this. I'm more concerned of the half arsed efforts of key players in the team. Well Sharks were in a position and didn’t… Workd Club Challenge is different… it’s long established, and there’s plenty of pride at stake… I’d suggest the Nothing Cup wasn’t even discussed by CC and the Team… Knowing the NRLol is probably deducted from next years cap…
If it mattered, it’s highly unlikely they’d have been flogged in mid 30 degree temps the day before… which may also be why some where flat… not to mention we flattened ourselves with errors…
Well that flogging can count against CC. I see no benefit in flogging players especially before a game also to be played in extreme heat. Poor judgement from CC and the trainers. You would think at some point in the trials, the coach sends a message to flick a switch and see if what they've been working on can be pulled off in match conditions. Didn't see it, except by JR, Skelton and co late in the game, or by the B+Team in the first trial. I hope they surprise me come round 1 but I'm certainly nowhere near as confident anymore. I think this year will be another year of us fluking tries off kicks or opposition errors. You aren't competitive playing like that. You just avoid the spoon. So glad you ripped into CC and Burto pre game 1 of the season… The true fans will remember this day forever and thank you for your service…
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+x+x+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Yes a timely reality check. What we've seen in the build up to the season is mostly razzmatazz, The first two episodes of the kennel being a prime example. Now to the football. Still I don't think that there is any reason to panic. On fitness we looked fairly fit in both trials. Canberra didn't throw much at us trial 1 but we handled it in a canter. Against the Sharks, the ball got slippery we dropped a lot of ball, Sharks had a good run of possession. RFM and our middle fowards had a solid work out. Overall- fitter than previous seasons. Defence - again IMO better than previous seasons. The issues we had were Perham cleaning up kicks and the right edge of Flanno, RFM and Averillo. RFM was too slow to cover from the inside, Flanno hang back and Averillo went up. CC says that everyone has a job to do in defence, someone, perhaps more than 1 wasn't on the right page. Otherwise we defended fairly well especially in the middle. Attack - Marhoney, Kicks, Nu-Brown, Grub, Alamotti and Skelton add something, Averillo looks fast and sharp. Generally our ball movement is more fluid and we have more variety. When the ball got slippery Flanno was standing too far from Lou, asking the dummy-half to throw the ball a long way. Perham is also very clunky in attack. Still overall the team is better than previous seasons. We don't want to be in the business of replacing the coach every season, CC deserves a fair shot and rebuilding might take more than 1 season. Will admit I panicked a bit… which is rare for me with trails… I think I just have huge expectations this year… Glad Lou got what will surely be his worst game for the season out of the way… We will lose some games, Where do you come up with the stuff???….
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+x+x+x+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Yes a timely reality check. What we've seen in the build up to the season is mostly razzmatazz, The first two episodes of the kennel being a prime example. Now to the football. Still I don't think that there is any reason to panic. On fitness we looked fairly fit in both trials. Canberra didn't throw much at us trial 1 but we handled it in a canter. Against the Sharks, the ball got slippery we dropped a lot of ball, Sharks had a good run of possession. RFM and our middle fowards had a solid work out. Overall- fitter than previous seasons. Defence - again IMO better than previous seasons. The issues we had were Perham cleaning up kicks and the right edge of Flanno, RFM and Averillo. RFM was too slow to cover from the inside, Flanno hang back and Averillo went up. CC says that everyone has a job to do in defence, someone, perhaps more than 1 wasn't on the right page. Otherwise we defended fairly well especially in the middle. Attack - Marhoney, Kicks, Nu-Brown, Grub, Alamotti and Skelton add something, Averillo looks fast and sharp. Generally our ball movement is more fluid and we have more variety. When the ball got slippery Flanno was standing too far from Lou, asking the dummy-half to throw the ball a long way. Perham is also very clunky in attack. Still overall the team is better than previous seasons. We don't want to be in the business of replacing the coach every season, CC deserves a fair shot and rebuilding might take more than 1 season. Will admit I panicked a bit… which is rare for me with trails… I think I just have huge expectations this year… Glad Lou got what will surely be his worst game for the season out of the way… We will lose some games, Where do you come up with the stuff???…. What I am saying is that a slow start to the season is possible, if that happens I still expect us to improve as the season progresses. The reason for that is players need to learn CC's system, form combinations and CC needs to find the best 17. If we start well, we are going to get more attention from the opposition, sooner or later we will hit a rough patch. I still expect fans to have a meltdown after every loss. And I will be one of them. But the reality is 7th or 8th on the table often require little better than a 50% win rate, bump that up 5%-10% 6th is in play. Top 4 is a long shot, any fan expecting top 4 this season has unrealistic expectations.
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CC talking up Perham yesterday saying he is our fullback. Hope he is as good as CC says.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Yes a timely reality check. What we've seen in the build up to the season is mostly razzmatazz, The first two episodes of the kennel being a prime example. Now to the football. Still I don't think that there is any reason to panic. On fitness we looked fairly fit in both trials. Canberra didn't throw much at us trial 1 but we handled it in a canter. Against the Sharks, the ball got slippery we dropped a lot of ball, Sharks had a good run of possession. RFM and our middle fowards had a solid work out. Overall- fitter than previous seasons. Defence - again IMO better than previous seasons. The issues we had were Perham cleaning up kicks and the right edge of Flanno, RFM and Averillo. RFM was too slow to cover from the inside, Flanno hang back and Averillo went up. CC says that everyone has a job to do in defence, someone, perhaps more than 1 wasn't on the right page. Otherwise we defended fairly well especially in the middle. Attack - Marhoney, Kicks, Nu-Brown, Grub, Alamotti and Skelton add something, Averillo looks fast and sharp. Generally our ball movement is more fluid and we have more variety. When the ball got slippery Flanno was standing too far from Lou, asking the dummy-half to throw the ball a long way. Perham is also very clunky in attack. Still overall the team is better than previous seasons. We don't want to be in the business of replacing the coach every season, CC deserves a fair shot and rebuilding might take more than 1 season. Will admit I panicked a bit… which is rare for me with trails… I think I just have huge expectations this year… Glad Lou got what will surely be his worst game for the season out of the way… We will lose some games, Where do you come up with the stuff???…. What I am saying is that a slow start to the season is possible, if that happens I still expect us to improve as the season progresses. The reason for that is players need to learn CC's system, form combinations and CC needs to find the best 17. If we start well, we are going to get more attention from the opposition, sooner or later we will hit a rough patch. I still expect fans to have a meltdown after every loss. And I will be one of them. But the reality is 7th or 8th on the table often require little better than a 50% win rate, bump that up 5%-10% 6th is in play. Top 4 is a long shot, any fan expecting top 4 this season has unrealistic expectations. I agree HD but you haven't touched on is the opposition's preparation against us. Our recruitment has been well documented and opposition teams will not be prepared for a Bulldogs team of 2019-2021 but the 2023 team with GF players in Reed, Kikau, JAC, Burton, TPJ. If the opposition plans and enters games expecting a 10-15% improved team, we will need to play at minimum 20% better just to be overcome them. I know you can only control your own game, but you'd have to be naive to think that the opposition won't be up for an improved performance from us. If we don't meet those expectations, expect us to be toast.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwouldn’t surprise me. In fact I’d bet Gus would be secretly happy with a little reality check to focus minds that might have been a little ahead of themselves, which I think there was. Perham just about played himself out of the team, and a lot of coaches would go that way. But I doubt that CC having made the decision a long time ago to give him the shot is gonna knee jerk this early. Alomati is progressing, that was a plus. But we played bad. But don’t wet yourself, because we know they can play better, much better, and they already did. In fact, like Gus, I think it was a good thing. Everyone needed a reality check. We know how good they can be, now they know how bad they can be. Yes a timely reality check. What we've seen in the build up to the season is mostly razzmatazz, The first two episodes of the kennel being a prime example. Now to the football. Still I don't think that there is any reason to panic. On fitness we looked fairly fit in both trials. Canberra didn't throw much at us trial 1 but we handled it in a canter. Against the Sharks, the ball got slippery we dropped a lot of ball, Sharks had a good run of possession. RFM and our middle fowards had a solid work out. Overall- fitter than previous seasons. Defence - again IMO better than previous seasons. The issues we had were Perham cleaning up kicks and the right edge of Flanno, RFM and Averillo. RFM was too slow to cover from the inside, Flanno hang back and Averillo went up. CC says that everyone has a job to do in defence, someone, perhaps more than 1 wasn't on the right page. Otherwise we defended fairly well especially in the middle. Attack - Marhoney, Kicks, Nu-Brown, Grub, Alamotti and Skelton add something, Averillo looks fast and sharp. Generally our ball movement is more fluid and we have more variety. When the ball got slippery Flanno was standing too far from Lou, asking the dummy-half to throw the ball a long way. Perham is also very clunky in attack. Still overall the team is better than previous seasons. We don't want to be in the business of replacing the coach every season, CC deserves a fair shot and rebuilding might take more than 1 season. Will admit I panicked a bit… which is rare for me with trails… I think I just have huge expectations this year… Glad Lou got what will surely be his worst game for the season out of the way… We will lose some games, Where do you come up with the stuff???…. What I am saying is that a slow start to the season is possible, if that happens I still expect us to improve as the season progresses. The reason for that is players need to learn CC's system, form combinations and CC needs to find the best 17. If we start well, we are going to get more attention from the opposition, sooner or later we will hit a rough patch. I still expect fans to have a meltdown after every loss. And I will be one of them. But the reality is 7th or 8th on the table often require little better than a 50% win rate, bump that up 5%-10% 6th is in play. Top 4 is a long shot, any fan expecting top 4 this season has unrealistic expectations. I agree HD but you haven't touched on is the opposition's preparation against us. Our recruitment has been well documented and opposition teams will not be prepared for a Bulldogs team of 2019-2021 but the 2023 team with GF players in Reed, Kikau, JAC, Burton, TPJ. If the opposition plans and enters games expecting a 10-15% improved team, we will need to play at minimum 20% better just to be overcome them. I know you can only control your own game, but you'd have to be naive to think that the opposition won't be up for an improved performance from us. If we don't meet those expectations, expect us to be toast. You’ve got a 50/50 chance of being right… but there’s only a 1% chance of that… Great to see Mockviz if full swing in 2023…
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+xCC talking up Perham yesterday saying he is our fullback. Hope he is as good as CC says. He was good in the indigenous v maori game, but even then some of his passes were ordinary.
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I’m busting for Tuesday!!!…
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+xI’m busting for Tuesday!!!… I'll give you a heads up.... Same team as first half Sharks game. Bench is JR, Pele, Preston, Waddell
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+x+xI’m busting for Tuesday!!!… I'll give you a heads up.... Same team as first half Sharks game. Bench is JR, Pele, Preston, Waddell I hope we have a better option than Wardell. At least with Perham at fullback there is an element of mystery not unlike a kids lucky-dip. We don't know what we will get.
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With Flanno at half unfortunately we do know what we will get.
Grub at half is the lucky-dip selection.
I'm feeling lucky....
So far the vibe-o-meter isn't giving a clear reading on the game, perhaps the team selection will fire it up.
From memory the offseason service on the vibe-o-meter was drink at least 6 dark beers on a night out ....hmmmmm.
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We are going to win the Comp!!!.,.
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+xWe are going to win the Comp!!!.,. Who's we? Which comp? and When?
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+x+xWe are going to win the Comp!!!.,. Who's we? Which comp? and When? The Bulldogs… NRLol… This year…
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+x+x+xWe are going to win the Comp!!!.,. Who's we? Which comp? and When? The Bulldogs… NRLol… This year… Yeeeeeeeeesssss When do win the GF, Dr Marki will still think our attack is rubbish, and will suggest it was a lucky win. 😊
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+x+x+x+xWe are going to win the Comp!!!.,. Who's we? Which comp? and When? The Bulldogs… NRLol… This year… Yeeeeeeeeesssss When do win the GF, Dr Marki will still think our attack is rubbish, and will suggest it was a lucky win. 😊 Burton to centre for ‘24 after Churchill medal win…
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