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+x+x+xIf the $6M ruins 2 games in 10 days for I don’t know what I’ll do… 6.2M and he was ours..... Worth every cent… and more… not spent… You of all people value a GF win above absolutely everything… “if you don’t win the comp, the season a failure”to par many a post… why you would back in a will never win a GF half is beyond me… #flatttrackbully… Enjoy your series win on Weds you filthy QLD supporter… Plus.. an extra $200K PA and he was ours is a complete and utter invention…
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Burton 18th man now for NSW . Does that mean he will not play this weekend ? More than likely he won’t play in the origin game as well .
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+xBurton 18th man now for NSW . Does that mean he will not play this weekend ? More than likely he won’t play in the origin game as well . Will not play for us… and likely will not play for NSW… no way a QLDer is going on report for foul play… Raj amd Olo it is!!!…
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+x+xBurton 18th man now for NSW . Does that mean he will not play this weekend ? More than likely he won’t play in the origin game as well . Will not play for us… and likely will not play for NSW… no way a QLDer is going on report for foul play… Raj amd Olo it is!!!… And after the win, we can move Burto to centre or second grade where he belongs, and enjoy an unbeaten run to winning the Premiership…
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+x+x+xBurton 18th man now for NSW . Does that mean he will not play this weekend ? More than likely he won’t play in the origin game as well . Will not play for us… and likely will not play for NSW… no way a QLDer is going on report for foul play… Raj amd Olo it is!!!… And after the win, we can move Burto to centre or second grade where he belongs, and enjoy an unbeaten run to winning the Premiership… Finally! You have seen the light! In all fairness, the one good thing about Burton not playing, is it forces CC and the team to figure out how else to score, other than through kicks. It's just a shame this decision happened late in the week. I'm hoping KO and KR go well. Will be a tough ask against the Sharks who are looking to bounce back after a couple of losses. They are also our bogry team of late.
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+x+x+x+xIf the $6M ruins 2 games in 10 days for I don’t know what I’ll do… 6.2M and he was ours..... Worth every cent… and more… not spent… You of all people value a GF win above absolutely everything… “if you don’t win the comp, the season a failure”to par many a post… why you would back in a will never win a GF half is beyond me… #flatttrackbully… Enjoy your series win on Weds you filthy QLD supporter… Plus.. an extra $200K PA and he was ours is a complete and utter invention… Usually the highest bidder wins the prize... Sure, I made up the figure, but my point is if you want a top player, you pay the price... If your lure is that they have a better chance of a premiership here rather than elsewhere, you better be right otherwise your bluff won't work...
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Burton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position.
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+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money.
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+x+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money. Many of the great halves were or are not organisers… I still think people are being way too harsh on a kid playing behind a beaten pack most weeks, at a club that has been rebuilding for half a decade, who has lost the main attacking forward outside him he trained with all pre season, and is the bloke that pretty much leads everything good we BDP on the field… He’s an out and out half… seemingly at this stage more a 6 than 7… But this time at 7 will only benefit his growth as a half long term…
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The halves market is screwy… You have a bloke that will never win a comp earning $1.2 a season at the Eels… Then you have that blokes old foil at the Tigers who can’t lead a team to the finals turning down $500K a year cos he kicked a 40/20 and ran the ball a couple of times for the first time in half a decade…
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+x+x+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money. Many of the great halves were or are not organisers… I still think people are being way too harsh on a kid playing behind a beaten pack most weeks, at a club that has been rebuilding for half a decade, who has lost the main attacking forward outside him he trained with all pre season, and is the bloke that pretty much leads everything good we BDP on the field… He’s an out and out half… seemingly at this stage more a 6 than 7… But this time at 7 will only benefit his growth as a half long term… I hope you're right, but being paid elite money on hope, potential and excuses at the moment. The same excuses can be applied to many in the team. What I particularly don't like, is the implication that he decides where he will play. If true not a team player. Mundine like.
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+x+x+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money. Many of the great halves were or are not organisers… I still think people are being way too harsh on a kid playing behind a beaten pack most weeks, at a club that has been rebuilding for half a decade, who has lost the main attacking forward outside him he trained with all pre season, and is the bloke that pretty much leads everything good we BDP on the field… He’s an out and out half… seemingly at this stage more a 6 than 7… But this time at 7 will only benefit his growth as a half long term… My judgements on Burton aren't only based on his time with us.... I have seen him since he debuted for Penrith. His performance in the halves even at a strong Penrith team wasn't that great, so I don't buy this BS about playing behind a beaten pack. His poor passing ability is a big big issue at 5/8th and even bigger at halfback. His kicking game is the only thing buying him time in the halves. If he can get his running game back, he makes himself difficult to dethrone from that spot. In our team, he can buy himself more time at 5/8th because we have been a bottom 4 club for a while and none of our junior halves have put enough pressure.
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+x+x+x+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money. Many of the great halves were or are not organisers… I still think people are being way too harsh on a kid playing behind a beaten pack most weeks, at a club that has been rebuilding for half a decade, who has lost the main attacking forward outside him he trained with all pre season, and is the bloke that pretty much leads everything good we BDP on the field… He’s an out and out half… seemingly at this stage more a 6 than 7… But this time at 7 will only benefit his growth as a half long term… My judgements on Burton aren't only based on his time with us.... I have seen him since he debuted for Penrith. His performance in the halves even at a strong Penrith team wasn't that great, so I don't buy this BS about playing behind a beaten pack. His poor passing ability is a big big issue at 5/8th and even bigger at halfback. His kicking game is the only thing buying him time in the halves. If he can get his running game back, he makes himself difficult to dethrone from that spot. In our team, he can buy himself more time at 5/8th because we have been a bottom 4 club for a while and none of our junior halves have put enough pressure. You mean his performances in a Penrith Team that had half the Team out through Origin???.,, after training and playing in the centres all year???…
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+x+x+x+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money. Many of the great halves were or are not organisers… I still think people are being way too harsh on a kid playing behind a beaten pack most weeks, at a club that has been rebuilding for half a decade, who has lost the main attacking forward outside him he trained with all pre season, and is the bloke that pretty much leads everything good we BDP on the field… He’s an out and out half… seemingly at this stage more a 6 than 7… But this time at 7 will only benefit his growth as a half long term… I hope you're right, but being paid elite money on hope, potential and excuses at the moment. The same excuses can be applied to many in the team. What I particularly don't like, is the implication that he decides where he will play. If true not a team player. Mundine like. I have no doubt Burto would do what is asked of him by the coach… But like any job, if he has a preference for a certain role, you can’t begrudge him looking elsewhere for that role…
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+x+x+x+x+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money. Many of the great halves were or are not organisers… I still think people are being way too harsh on a kid playing behind a beaten pack most weeks, at a club that has been rebuilding for half a decade, who has lost the main attacking forward outside him he trained with all pre season, and is the bloke that pretty much leads everything good we BDP on the field… He’s an out and out half… seemingly at this stage more a 6 than 7… But this time at 7 will only benefit his growth as a half long term… I hope you're right, but being paid elite money on hope, potential and excuses at the moment. The same excuses can be applied to many in the team. What I particularly don't like, is the implication that he decides where he will play. If true not a team player. Mundine like. I have no doubt Burto would do what is asked of him by the coach… But like any job, if he has a preference for a certain role, you can’t begrudge him looking elsewhere for that role… No I don't, but surely we're not locking ourselves in to 2027?
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+x+x+x+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money. Many of the great halves were or are not organisers… I still think people are being way too harsh on a kid playing behind a beaten pack most weeks, at a club that has been rebuilding for half a decade, who has lost the main attacking forward outside him he trained with all pre season, and is the bloke that pretty much leads everything good we BDP on the field… He’s an out and out half… seemingly at this stage more a 6 than 7… But this time at 7 will only benefit his growth as a half long term… I hope you're right, but being paid elite money on hope, potential and excuses at the moment. The same excuses can be applied to many in the team. What I particularly don't like, is the implication that he decides where he will play. If true not a team player. Mundine like. I have no doubt Burto would do what is asked of him by the coach… But like any job, if he has a preference for a certain role, you can’t begrudge him looking elsewhere for that role…
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+x+x+x+x+x+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money. Many of the great halves were or are not organisers… I still think people are being way too harsh on a kid playing behind a beaten pack most weeks, at a club that has been rebuilding for half a decade, who has lost the main attacking forward outside him he trained with all pre season, and is the bloke that pretty much leads everything good we BDP on the field… He’s an out and out half… seemingly at this stage more a 6 than 7… But this time at 7 will only benefit his growth as a half long term… I hope you're right, but being paid elite money on hope, potential and excuses at the moment. The same excuses can be applied to many in the team. What I particularly don't like, is the implication that he decides where he will play. If true not a team player. Mundine like. I have no doubt Burto would do what is asked of him by the coach… But like any job, if he has a preference for a certain role, you can’t begrudge him looking elsewhere for that role… No I don't, but surely we're not locking ourselves in to 2027? Well we and he have… but that means little in the ‘modern game’ if contracts…
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+x+x+x+x+x+xBurton will never play in number 3 or 4 and he will not sign up for a coach that plans to use him in that position. You make him sound like Mundine, dictating to the coach where he will and will not play. As for signing up he is signed to 2027. He has no problem playing where the coach wants him in rep football. Burton is a runner and kicker and shows no signs of organisational ability. This is after a season and a half in the halves and some 70 first grade games. We need a game manager desperately. Burton is on elite money and should be expected to perform as such. He should be subject to scrutiny the same as any other player on elite money. Many of the great halves were or are not organisers… I still think people are being way too harsh on a kid playing behind a beaten pack most weeks, at a club that has been rebuilding for half a decade, who has lost the main attacking forward outside him he trained with all pre season, and is the bloke that pretty much leads everything good we BDP on the field… He’s an out and out half… seemingly at this stage more a 6 than 7… But this time at 7 will only benefit his growth as a half long term… I hope you're right, but being paid elite money on hope, potential and excuses at the moment. The same excuses can be applied to many in the team. What I particularly don't like, is the implication that he decides where he will play. If true not a team player. Mundine like. I have no doubt Burto would do what is asked of him by the coach… But like any job, if he has a preference for a certain role, you can’t begrudge him looking elsewhere for that role… No I don't, but surely we're not locking ourselves in to 2027? I'm with you on this. I think in a struggling team, an established and proven player can be given the liberty of dictating where he wants to play. But if the player hasn't proven anything and his status is based on 'potential' only, and he is dictating where he wants to play without really making that spot his own, you are in for a bumpy ride, and could potentially send a team backwards for years to come. Like Trent Barrett, I had every hope for Burton. I really did. But after 1 season, doubts crept into my mind and only needed afew games this year to make up my mind that he isn't a long term prospect for a halves position (6 or 7). I don't know if he values a NSW jumper but I reckon if he played centre and got his running game back, he gets one of the centre spots. He won't get it at 5/8th the way he is playing.
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Summing up Mitch Moses.
Rubbish for 7 seasons, poor for 2 seasons, average for 1 season, good for 1 season, very good so far this season.
No accident that his best performances have come at the backend of his career when he has improved his defence and is playing behind a strong pack of forwards with a good fullback.
Fans who think a halfback can win the game by himself are clueless. Thurston, Langer and Mortimer were the only havles that were some chance of winning a game behind a beaten pack. But only when the sides were close enough for them to close the gap. Throw in Munster even though he isn't a half, also Fittler, Daley and Lyons.
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Burto is really a 6, but he has never been rubbish and will never be rubbish.
IMO 2022 - Below average, 2023 - average.
Burton is improving and certainly improving a lot faster than Moses did for the first 7 years of his career.
He needs a proper halves partner and more help from the rest of the team.
Many players play 6,1 and centre fairly interchangeably, Burto is similar to Fittler, Daley and Kenny.
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The only definate specalist half at the club is Hayward, he is not ready for NRL.
Young O'Neil looks ok, but is a couple of seasons behind Hayward.
BBO could be anything, but at this stage we have no idea what he will be.
Ben Hunt - would be a good fit, but hard to get.
Luke Brooks- easier to get, I'm with Gus here talent isn't the issue, he just needs a reset and the right team environment.
Jack Cogger - much improved, barely NRL standard but should continue to improve.
Adian Sezer - my preferred pick 2 years ago and I haven't changed my mind. Would be a winner in the right system. If he isn't too old and he is motivated.
There are other candidates, none playing regular NRL.
I am happy with anyone on the list, and I still think that we need an experienced half for 1-2 seasons to help develop the young halves and provide more consistent performances.
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+xBurto is really a 6, but he has never been rubbish and will never be rubbish. IMO 2022 - Below average, 2023 - average. Burton is improving and certainly improving a lot faster than Moses did for the first 7 years of his career. He needs a proper halves partner and more help from the rest of the team. Many players play 6,1 and centre fairly interchangeably, Burto is similar to Fittler, Daley and Kenny. I couldn't disagree more. I was fan of Moses even early in his career with Tigers. I saw potential in Brett Finch when at Raiders. Some things you can see at early stage of a players career. I can see Burton has a good kicking game. But I also see his deficiencies. I just feel the team can still use his kicking while playing in the centres and can possibly get a better ball player in the halves.
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Reserve grade winning 26-16 after 60 mins, a few good players out of the team. I wonder why the team is going so well, we seem to have a lot of players who are too good for reserve grade but not good enough for NRL.
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+x+xBurto is really a 6, but he has never been rubbish and will never be rubbish. IMO 2022 - Below average, 2023 - average. Burton is improving and certainly improving a lot faster than Moses did for the first 7 years of his career. He needs a proper halves partner and more help from the rest of the team. Many players play 6,1 and centre fairly interchangeably, Burto is similar to Fittler, Daley and Kenny. I couldn't disagree more. I was fan of Moses even early in his career with Tigers. I saw potential in Brett Finch when at Raiders. Some things you can see at early stage of a players career. I can see Burton has a good kicking game. But I also see his deficiencies. I just feel the team can still use his kicking while playing in the centres and can possibly get a better ball player in the halves. We will agree to disagree. I have never claimed Burto is a halfback, he is just the best option for 7 at present.
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+xSumming up Mitch Moses. Rubbish for 7 seasons, poor for 2 seasons, average for 1 season, good for 1 season, very good so far this season. No accident that his best performances have come at the backend of his career when he has improved his defence and is playing behind a strong pack of forwards with a good fullback. Fans who think a halfback can win the game by himself are clueless. Thurston, Langer and Mortimer were the only havles that were some chance of winning a game behind a beaten pack. But only when the sides were close enough for them to close the gap. Throw in Munster even though he isn't a half, also Fittler, Daley and Lyons. I think you’re forgetting John’s. He could win a game behind a beaten pack with a backline if park footballers. But your point still stands. Even John’s struggled at Newcastle with that terrible team around him.
Burton is clearly an exceptional talent and us still learning his role in the team. If he played at six for Brisbane he would be rated as the best six in the game. Anybody that thinks he is part of the problem are kidding themselves.
Our problem is our lack of go forward. We need better props. We also desperately need a decent fullback. And an experienced halfback could help
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+xReserve grade winning 26-16 after 60 mins, a few good players out of the team. I wonder why the team is going so well, we seem to have a lot of players who are too good for reserve grade but not good enough for NRL. Two reserve grade teams
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+x+xSumming up Mitch Moses. Rubbish for 7 seasons, poor for 2 seasons, average for 1 season, good for 1 season, very good so far this season. No accident that his best performances have come at the backend of his career when he has improved his defence and is playing behind a strong pack of forwards with a good fullback. Fans who think a halfback can win the game by himself are clueless. Thurston, Langer and Mortimer were the only havles that were some chance of winning a game behind a beaten pack. But only when the sides were close enough for them to close the gap. Throw in Munster even though he isn't a half, also Fittler, Daley and Lyons. I think you’re forgetting John’s. He could win a game behind a beaten pack with a backline if park footballers. But your point still stands. Even John’s struggled at Newcastle with that terrible team around him.
Burton is clearly an exceptional talent and us still learning his role in the team. If he played at six for Brisbane he would be rated as the best six in the game. Anybody that thinks he is part of the problem are kidding themselves.
Our problem is our lack of go forward. We need better props. We also desperately need a decent fullback. And an experienced halfback could help With A Reynolds as half. Who's the money man?
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+x+xSumming up Mitch Moses. Rubbish for 7 seasons, poor for 2 seasons, average for 1 season, good for 1 season, very good so far this season. No accident that his best performances have come at the backend of his career when he has improved his defence and is playing behind a strong pack of forwards with a good fullback. Fans who think a halfback can win the game by himself are clueless. Thurston, Langer and Mortimer were the only havles that were some chance of winning a game behind a beaten pack. But only when the sides were close enough for them to close the gap. Throw in Munster even though he isn't a half, also Fittler, Daley and Lyons. I think you’re forgetting John’s. He could win a game behind a beaten pack with a backline if park footballers. But your point still stands. Even John’s struggled at Newcastle with that terrible team around him.
Burton is clearly an exceptional talent and us still learning his role in the team. If he played at six for Brisbane he would be rated as the best six in the game. Anybody that thinks he is part of the problem are kidding themselves.
Our problem is our lack of go forward. We need better props. We also desperately need a decent fullback. And an experienced halfback could help Ok we can add Johns, I don't actually remember him doing it, but he seems like he would. I remember Langer doing to the Dogs and NSW a lot. We would be well on top, he would grubber kick the ball a few feet and somehow that would turn into a momentum shifting try. I also remember Thurston doing it behind a beaten pack with a busted shoulder and inspiring his teammates. Prop, halfback and fullback are definately the positions we need to strengthen. We have some good lower graders but need 1 experienced prop with size who can provide yards and leadership. Fullback would should have covered between Wilson, Critter, Xeri and Rajab. I also think that Burns is a better fullback than Perham. Halfback I have listed a few candidates. Our reserve grade side with Hayward at halfback just beat Penrith reserve grade with Falls at halfback, so perhaps scrub Falls off the list.
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I find it interesting wingers after making a break and then kicking back infield for their support players are not subject to the same kicker protections as $6M men…
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+xI find it interesting wingers after making a break and then kicking back infield for their support players are not subject to the same kicker protections as $6M men… Consistency in NRL officiating is as rare as rocking horse shit.
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