Our kicking is 100%. Found the Shark players on the full every time.

Max King must be playing injured, he is a shadow of the player he was earlier in the season.

I wonder why we didn't put Pele on for the last 10 mins.

I am not surprised, but we went backwards when some bench forwards came on, even with Burto I still think we would be down by at least 18 points at hslftime.

Do we have the dumbest players in the NRLol?

The way they are playing they deserve a shellacking.

Hopefully this is rock bottom, it sure seems like it.

Where do we go from here? We've  got backline options, but I don't  see any options for our powder puff forwards. The Fox and Burton certainly won't  solve our underlying  problems.

I can't watch any more and I wont even listen to the bullsh!t Ciraldo spews out in the presser. This team has broken me I'm done, they can all fůck off as far as I'm concerned because we need players who have pride in the jersey and not the mercenary pr!cks looking for a lazy pay cheque.

I really thought Ciraldo would've been the coach who'd be ruthless with his selections if the poor performers were continually under performing. You know,.the hard bastard to keep the players  nervous. Not so it appears. For example,  the season is fucken gone so why persist with Perham if all he's doing is keeping the spot warm for Crichton? It beggars belief.  He offers nothing. 

I don't want to be the fan who singles out players, this place is not the Kennel, that place is an asylum. But why do we.still jave mediocre players in 1st grade? Okunbor for one, really what has he offered that makes us all in here sit up and blow smoke up his arse? 

The coach has to try a few changes, our kicking game was diabolical.

Flanno not a good option for the halves.

Forwards wise Patolo and Pele are lacking match fitness, but a critical times we needed a big body on the field.

The rot started with the kicking game and the wind, apart from Burto we lack a good kicker.

We went better with Averillo at fullback, Perham was a big part of the initial rot.

CC also needs to think about his use of the bench. King and Wardell came on to stiffen up the defence and were not up to it.

I agree on Perham, Okunbor at least offers more than Wardell, he should be playing in the middle of the bench.

I would find a proper second rower to replace Okunbor, and shift Okunbor to the bench.

Karl, Fanno, Grub and Rajab don't look like the right option for Burton's halves partner.

I would not throw a young guy in at the deep end until we fix the forwards 

Yes, agree with all on here that our real issues are the engine room. We spent so much energy and $$$ fixing (rebuilding) our sluggish and talentless backline that we faed to address the issue of our forward pack. We may have the smallest pack in the comp and we have no depth. 
Its tough being a Dogs supporter. 

I still don’t get why Pele in gets 10 mins a game…

It’s real tough. 

And at the end. It makes no sense. He would be better off playing the first ten to fifteen to make an impact. 

I would love to know the reason for the Perham and Avo switch. Ciro is showing how amateur he really is. Hopefully he learns from today. 

Hopefully  it's  the end of Perham.

Waste  of a spot at the moment. Get fit in reserve grade.

Avo made fewer mistakes, and put Perham away for a long break.

But the time Avo got to fullback the team was already gassed abd the Sharks forwards were well on top.

I hope Wilson is impressing at fullback in reserve grade.

Rajab replaced Perham at fullback last game and Perham moved to the centres.

Why young Karl played with a sore shoulder and moved to the middle and why Pele didn't come on after 30 mins are the things I would like CC to explain.

I also don't understand why Topine isn't in the side to play some time at right backrow or in the middle.
I'm ok with Okunbor starting on the right but he should move to the middle or come off after 20 mins.

This season is going to be about developing talent, recognizing where we need to strengthen the side and which players to let go.

It is a bad idea to make too many squad changes, start with what we need and who we can get. Then promote good young players to top 30 as needed. For the rest assign them a priority and a value under the salary cap. When in doubt offer 1 year extensions.

Team wise the coach has to make changes to address the problems. Too many players are playing injured, are ladking match fitness, or are simply not putting in a shift.

Big bodies who can only plsy limited minutes should come on after 25-30 mins, they get a 10 minute break with halftime and dhould be good for at least another 10 mins. 

I still think CC knows footy and he is a nice guy, it is just a leaking boat with a lot of holes at present and he needs to start plugging some.

After watching the press conference and calming down. I agree with Ciraldo. The attitude was poor but they are young and will learn from it. It sucks but it will take a few years and the right signings before things will change. 

Have to agree here. And I'm curious of how you got that U in the F word. 

Back to the dogs.... You have to wonder exactly what the fekk the gameplan was today?

Did they not know the sharks were off the back of some losses including a storm flogging and looking to make amends?

It's scary to think how bad this team and club has got to....

I agree ODF , even with players out and injured the young guys should at least come in and step up . CC should had them up for this game knowing the walloping Sharks copped last week and Hynes being dropped from SOO.
Look at the Panthers and their younger players stepping up.
I’ll give Ciraldo some credit he certainly knows how to sugarcoat a big loss ..

Well I have calmed down a fair bit since I switched the game off with 20 minutes to go. Yes the team seemed very 'pedestrian' even with so much to play for. It's either a case of they are too inexperienced to step up or they are not first grade material. 
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Same here it is just where we are at at present.

None of our kickers are naturals and they struggled with the wind. The only player with a lot of experience in those conditions is Flanno.

Sharks running with the wind was smart by the time we got the wind, the game was gone and our team was low on fuel.

Injury is a reason why Patolo, Pele and King are lacking match fitness and down on form.
I think I was too harsh on King he clearly isn't 100% and was trying hard to swim against the tide.

Early fumbles and indecision from Perham were the last thing we needed, in his case as far as I know injury wasn't a factor, he just isn't a fullback.

The effort from Morrin was inspirational and hopefully that inspires is team mates.

CC is trying things, but you can't win games with 40% posession, and you don't get the ball if you can't defend. Kicking game and defending kicks is essential for a good share of posession.

The concern for both the fans and players is that once the opposition gets to a 14 or more point lead, we are defeated. It shows in body language so much so, that the opposition notices it and goes for the jugular.

We all knew we were likely losing that game and some feared we would get thrashed. It's the fact we couldn't even make a contest of it for at least 20m that has us all scratching our heads as to whether we are actually improving or simply can't wait till season is over.

I see massive issues in the way our team tackles. It looks like they are poorly coached in that department. Has nothing to do with personnel. 

The other factor is footy brains. We have none. Or if some of our players have some, they are too quiet and not part of leadership group to make a difference to the team as a whole.

Coaching staff have a lot to answer to.

You can't fake confidence, ability and fitness.

The players are trying, but the pass Kiraz attempted to throw to Averillo is an example of where we are going wrong, because the players are lacking confidence and even our best players are forcing low percentage plays.

The defence was simply down to the team being tired and lacking high workrate defenders.

The players and the coaches are trying hard. Sometimes a club just has to grind through the tough times and find the players who can handle the tough going.

Changing coaches every season, sacking the board and rushing into quick fix recruitment is a formula for staying at the bottom of the table. 

CC has made some mistakes, but he is a young coach learning his trade under difficult circumstances.

Most of the team are trying, some are not good enough, some are lacking match fitness, and some are carrying injuries. Most of the odvious alternative players have already been tried. That isn't bad coaching, it is injuries, salary cap previous recruitment and retention.

We have more cap to play with but need to run recruitment and retention within the cap and develop most of our players.

Out of the top 30, I hope that we keep at least 20, promote 5 young guys and sign 3 new players in addition to Chricton and Xeri. We need to sign a halfback, a prop and a prop or second rower. The decision on the last player depends on how lower grade players are progressing.

Like CC I haven't given up on this season. The team is better than they look, they need a win or 2 to lift confidence levels. We need Edwards back, Pele and Patolo can play long minutes in reserve grade this week to build match fitness, I was happy with both of them. Most of the damage was done when both of them and Morrin were off the field. CC needs to sort out fullback, Perham isn't the answer.

I would probably keep Karl in the halves for now, outside of Burto he seems like the best kicker out of the rest. Or if we are going with Rajab he needs to start and his kicking needs to improve.

We should probably forget about the bench utility and have 4 forwards on the bench especially if we are playing Patolo and Pele. Nu Brown is an acceptable compromise who covers a few positions and defends well in the middle.

Any outside chance of scaping into the 8 needs the team and CC to nail it from here, 1-2 chances left to get it right. 2 more losses and we are playing to avoid the spoon.

It's  all connected. The reason we're defeated is the reason we got behind in the first place. Inferior team. We won't  magically get better because we go behind.

Yes. We desperately need Edwards back. We missed his defence in the middle. Obviously Burto and Fox back will help a lot. 

If might sound funny, but the intensity at training is contributing to the injury toll.

Everyone mentions how well we train, but we barely show glimpses of that training form on game day.

There is no confidence issue, ref/bunker, pressure from the scoreboard/opposition, if there is a lucky bounce, one of our sides gets it.

I would not change the training regime, but I would try to cut down on the concussions caused at training. Perhaps better technique, head gear or something.

With the right recruitment and more depth, hopefully the training intensity will be an asset.

Concussions at training, Kicks, Pele, Edwards.
Injuries at training, Tommo and a few others.

And to think people were blaming the ref's for our woes.