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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnyone think that we are any chance against the Panthers? Most expect that it could get ugly and if it does, we might be absolutely flogged by a record score. A good scoreline will take our best performance in 5 years or the Panthers to have a very out of character performance. Our chances are higher if Kicks plays, even though I don't expect him to be in form. Their pack could destroy ours, to keep the score respectable we need to hold our own for at least 60 mins. Not too worried about our backline, it can do a job in attack, defence might be a different story. I don’t think they will get lapped like they did against the Knights . Last two weeks the guys have shown no problem scoring points .defence is a problem at the moment .. Hopefully Sexton stays in the full game .. Hoping Burton will pull the off a a1 performance against his old club . No. Burton had a had decent game against Souths reserves only 2 weeks ago. We need to wait another 4 games before that kind of performance happens again. It's a real worry that we feel we might be in with a chance if 1.5 gamer Sexton plays, yet if he's out, we think we will likely get lapped. Not exactly showing much confidence in Burton is there? The analysis is simple...our forwards are too light and the bashing is catching up. Our attack was better than Brisbane when Sexton went off. Unfortunately the soft tries they scored were typical of the game and when Sexton left the attack went out the window, and I can't see that changing this week.. Okunbur is still the biggest problem for mine. He is simply unskilled in defence and in attack whilst built like Tarzan plays like Jane.. I really thought he'd be the player you'd hate in your annual "I hate " programme. But no...you hate Matt burton...the Moses who will lead us to the promised land. I would not single out an individual forward for criticism. Collectively they were too small, too inexperienced, carrying too many injuries, lacking in fitness from previous injuries or worn down by playing above their weight / experience level for so long. We are just lucky Preston stepped up big time this season. Put 1-2 of our forwards in a top pack with the right rotation, they would look like much better players. Put any 3 of our forwards in a top side, we drag them down a bit. We need better options and we need to work out who we should keep. Okunbor trained as a winger last off season, I would give him a 1 year expension and see what he can do next season. Okunbor the forward is a new player, I don't blame him for Okunbor the winger. I should add I don't hate any Bulldog player unlike Narcissus but do feel we are adding characteristics to Okunbur that he doesn't have. Max never played prop before he was thrust into it last year...and has done an admirable job. King was always a forward. Okunbor has size and makes an impact carrying the ball and contesting high balls. His defence needs a lot of work, but size is an asset. With the exception of Preston everyone of our forwards has had at least 1 bitterly disappointing game and has disappointing patches in most games. Our defensive misses stand out becuase no other covers for the mistake. Okunbor is a bit like Pele, they are hoping to turn the raw ingredients into a player. Neither one is ready to play regular NRL in the forwards. Depends on how many inexperienced and project players we can afford. We are only lacking 2 quality props now that Kicks is back. If we need to move on Okunbor to sign one then that is what we should do. I don't think you can underestimate the loss of Luke Thompson...not the biggest forward but very explosive and able to get quick play the ball. Would have been great working with Kikau, another we missed.,,,some hard to understand decisons too such as releasing Andrew Davey...not the most dynamic player but a good defender...look at Okunbur in the Brisbane chip over the top try, he doesn't do a thing. I'd love him to be good...Morrin is half his size but hits with twice as much force. If Okunbur could channel his energy it would be great but the more I see the less I think it will happen. Maybe needs a psychologist to help Yep the loss of Kicks and Tommo is big. Further compounded by Hughes and Patolo being out for most of the season. Even with our best pack on deck we are still one of the more marginal packs in the comp. With our best big boys out, no surpise that we are lacking size. With Sexton at half that is one hole plugged. We are 2 good props away from being very competitive in 2024. With Kicks back I hope that we cause the odd upset.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnyone think that we are any chance against the Panthers? Most expect that it could get ugly and if it does, we might be absolutely flogged by a record score. A good scoreline will take our best performance in 5 years or the Panthers to have a very out of character performance. Our chances are higher if Kicks plays, even though I don't expect him to be in form. Their pack could destroy ours, to keep the score respectable we need to hold our own for at least 60 mins. Not too worried about our backline, it can do a job in attack, defence might be a different story. I don’t think they will get lapped like they did against the Knights . Last two weeks the guys have shown no problem scoring points .defence is a problem at the moment .. Hopefully Sexton stays in the full game .. Hoping Burton will pull the off a a1 performance against his old club . No. Burton had a had decent game against Souths reserves only 2 weeks ago. We need to wait another 4 games before that kind of performance happens again. It's a real worry that we feel we might be in with a chance if 1.5 gamer Sexton plays, yet if he's out, we think we will likely get lapped. Not exactly showing much confidence in Burton is there? The analysis is simple...our forwards are too light and the bashing is catching up. Our attack was better than Brisbane when Sexton went off. Unfortunately the soft tries they scored were typical of the game and when Sexton left the attack went out the window, and I can't see that changing this week.. Okunbur is still the biggest problem for mine. He is simply unskilled in defence and in attack whilst built like Tarzan plays like Jane.. I really thought he'd be the player you'd hate in your annual "I hate " programme. But no...you hate Matt burton...the Moses who will lead us to the promised land. I would not single out an individual forward for criticism. Collectively they were too small, too inexperienced, carrying too many injuries, lacking in fitness from previous injuries or worn down by playing above their weight / experience level for so long. We are just lucky Preston stepped up big time this season. Put 1-2 of our forwards in a top pack with the right rotation, they would look like much better players. Put any 3 of our forwards in a top side, we drag them down a bit. We need better options and we need to work out who we should keep. Okunbor trained as a winger last off season, I would give him a 1 year expension and see what he can do next season. Okunbor the forward is a new player, I don't blame him for Okunbor the winger. I should add I don't hate any Bulldog player unlike Narcissus but do feel we are adding characteristics to Okunbur that he doesn't have. Max never played prop before he was thrust into it last year...and has done an admirable job. King was always a forward. Okunbor has size and makes an impact carrying the ball and contesting high balls. His defence needs a lot of work, but size is an asset. With the exception of Preston everyone of our forwards has had at least 1 bitterly disappointing game and has disappointing patches in most games. Our defensive misses stand out becuase no other covers for the mistake. Okunbor is a bit like Pele, they are hoping to turn the raw ingredients into a player. Neither one is ready to play regular NRL in the forwards. Depends on how many inexperienced and project players we can afford. We are only lacking 2 quality props now that Kicks is back. If we need to move on Okunbor to sign one then that is what we should do. I don't think you can underestimate the loss of Luke Thompson...not the biggest forward but very explosive and able to get quick play the ball. Would have been great working with Kikau, another we missed.,,,some hard to understand decisons too such as releasing Andrew Davey...not the most dynamic player but a good defender...look at Okunbur in the Brisbane chip over the top try, he doesn't do a thing. I'd love him to be good...Morrin is half his size but hits with twice as much force. If Okunbur could channel his energy it would be great but the more I see the less I think it will happen. Maybe needs a psychologist to help Yep the loss of Kicks and Tommo is big. Further compounded by Hughes and Patolo being out for most of the season. Even with our best pack on deck we are still one of the more marginal packs in the comp. With our best big boys out, no surpise that we are lacking size. With Sexton at half that is one hole plugged. We are 2 good props away from being very competitive in 2024. With Kicks back I hope that we cause the odd upset. Definitely with Kicks and Sexton but unfortunately Flanno is playing this week so will not happen this Saturday ..
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We should get flogged by a record score. If we win it will be the biggest upset in a long time.
We are so desperate for two hard running props and an experienced halfback with a fast fullback.
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We look to be starting with a bona-fide cup side. The Dogs have not fielded a full strength team at all this year and this is round 21. I suppose this is the future, that due to the introduction of the 17th team there are no reserves of players available and with an 18th coming, rebuilds like ours will be a distant dream. The NRLol has tried to sell the 'expanded' competition as exciting and competitive but it is having to opposite effect and blowout scores will continue. Teams lucky enough to have good players will continue to be competitive the rest just making the numbers, I'm so glad we have Gould in charge because he is fixing our pathways to ensure we don't get left behind. Another thing is, I am constantly reading the trash posts on other sites about Ciraldo, the bloke can't catch a break. Yes he is an apprentice head coach, but he's doing it tough not having anything to work with, he hadn't had a full strength team at all yet. We must have patience.
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+xWe look to be starting with a bona-fide cup side. The Dogs have not fielded a full strength team at all this year and this is round 21. I suppose this is the future, that due to the introduction of the 17th team there are no reserves of players available and with an 18th coming, rebuilds like ours will be a distant dream. The NRLol has tried to sell the 'expanded' competition as exciting and competitive but it is having to opposite effect and blowout scores will continue. Teams lucky enough to have good players will continue to be competitive the rest just making the numbers, I'm so glad we have Gould in charge because he is fixing our pathways to ensure we don't get left behind. Another thing is, I am constantly reading the trash posts on other sites about Ciraldo, the bloke can't catch a break. Yes he is an apprentice head coach, but he's doing it tough not having anything to work with, he hadn't had a full strength team at all yet. We must have patience. The salary cap floor has been directly responsible for keeping the bottom placed teams pegged to the bottom. Indirectly forcing teams to play stupid money for their average players and not allowing bottom placed teams to sacrifice a season in order to get a leg up in the next 2, is what is hurting teams and delaying their rise to the top. Player dilution isn't really the problem.
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+x+xWe look to be starting with a bona-fide cup side. The Dogs have not fielded a full strength team at all this year and this is round 21. I suppose this is the future, that due to the introduction of the 17th team there are no reserves of players available and with an 18th coming, rebuilds like ours will be a distant dream. The NRLol has tried to sell the 'expanded' competition as exciting and competitive but it is having to opposite effect and blowout scores will continue. Teams lucky enough to have good players will continue to be competitive the rest just making the numbers, I'm so glad we have Gould in charge because he is fixing our pathways to ensure we don't get left behind. Another thing is, I am constantly reading the trash posts on other sites about Ciraldo, the bloke can't catch a break. Yes he is an apprentice head coach, but he's doing it tough not having anything to work with, he hadn't had a full strength team at all yet. We must have patience. The salary cap floor has been directly responsible for keeping the bottom placed teams pegged to the bottom. Indirectly forcing teams to play stupid money for their average players and not allowing bottom placed teams to sacrifice a season in order to get a leg up in the next 2, is what is hurting teams and delaying their rise to the top. Player dilution isn't really the problem. I can't agree with that. We still have cash available, so if player dilution in not an issue then why are we still fielding an understrength cup side.
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+x+x+xWe look to be starting with a bona-fide cup side. The Dogs have not fielded a full strength team at all this year and this is round 21. I suppose this is the future, that due to the introduction of the 17th team there are no reserves of players available and with an 18th coming, rebuilds like ours will be a distant dream. The NRLol has tried to sell the 'expanded' competition as exciting and competitive but it is having to opposite effect and blowout scores will continue. Teams lucky enough to have good players will continue to be competitive the rest just making the numbers, I'm so glad we have Gould in charge because he is fixing our pathways to ensure we don't get left behind. Another thing is, I am constantly reading the trash posts on other sites about Ciraldo, the bloke can't catch a break. Yes he is an apprentice head coach, but he's doing it tough not having anything to work with, he hadn't had a full strength team at all yet. We must have patience. The salary cap floor has been directly responsible for keeping the bottom placed teams pegged to the bottom. Indirectly forcing teams to play stupid money for their average players and not allowing bottom placed teams to sacrifice a season in order to get a leg up in the next 2, is what is hurting teams and delaying their rise to the top. Player dilution isn't really the problem. I can't agree with that. We still have cash available, so if player dilution in not an issue then why are we still fielding an understrength cup side. It's simple. We think we have a position settled (but we don't). So we ignore players in the market who are coming off contract. Then, when we realise we stuffed up and have a weakness in that position, we look at the market but all good players are contracted and we feel there is no one available. I don't know whether it's bad timing or naivety. It's certainly poor recruitment strategy with the ideology of buying "potential" rather "established stars" the killer IMO. Especially in the spine. We have constantly done this when searching for a HB and now similarly with FB. I feel like this club just doesn't learn. Gus is doing his bit to get the junior systems in place which will one day give us the opportunity to promote from within, but even that requires careful consideration and talent identification for the top grade. If you can't pick a good top 30, and even a good 17 out of those players, it doesn't matter whether you have 500 Andrew Johns's in your talent pool. This is why I value what Ivan Cleary has done at Penrith. It's easy to say he walked into a team that has good junior systems and talent in lower grades, but he ultimately had to cull the field to a top 30 and top 17 to keep them going for what is now 4 years at the top. He also had to implement a gameplan that worked with his players.
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Like always, I'll go into today's game with a smidgen of hope that we can start well, get in the board and Penrith having a bad day.
Hell, I might even be stupid enough to take +29 line bet. But I think we all know that Penrith has our measure and will pile on points at some stage in the game. It's just a matter of how much we can stop them.
Here's hoping an early try turns the 29 into a 35 point lead and we can somehow defend that....
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Someone please stop me...
I just looked at the team lineups. I got scared comparing just about every position especially the halves.
Yet like a poker machine player addicted to the flashing lights, I'm about to take the +29.....
To be honest, the line could be +49 and I'd still feel this scared....
My desire to win against these odds is overpowering my brain. I'm as dumb as our players.
Please stop me
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I just thought of something....
Rather than take the Dogs at +29, why don't I take the Panthers at -29 at 1.80......
I instantly safe and excited, but I also feel dirty....
I can't bet against my team...
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I don't know how a person can get it all so wrong. One minute you're telling me that I am wrong because a diluted talent pool is not the problem, yet there it is inblack and white you agree that that there is a shortage of high quality talent. Then you attempt to make light banter about betting on the game. You just hit on two of the biggest problems that exist within the game, and both of these cancers were introduced by the current NRLol adminitration themselves.
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+xLike always, I'll go into today's game with a smidgen of hope that we can start well, get in the board and Penrith having a bad day. Hell, I might even be stupid enough to take +29 line bet. But I think we all know that Penrith has our measure and will pile on points at some stage in the game. It's just a matter of how much we can stop them. Here's hoping an early try turns the 29 into a 35 point lead and we can somehow defend that.... I am not optimistic but +29 is a fair margin. If the Panthers are leading by 20 with 20 mins to go, they might cruise, rest some important players and give fringe players more minutes.
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I don't think that the number of teams in the comp has much to do with our current problems.
Dragons, and Tigers are in a similar position, only one new team was added.
At full strength our side this year might be competitive, we have never remotely been close to full strength.
Only when we tried Averillo at fullback and Sexton at half do we have the right players in those positions, had we started the season with that combination we would have gone better.
The team has been ordinary for 5 seasons, the year our full strength side is probably better than previous seasons.
I think that we should replace Tommo becuase we can't take the risk that an expensive player in a key position will be out injured for large parts of next season.
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+xI don't think that the number of teams in the comp has much to do with our current problems. Dragons, and Tigers are in a similar position, only one new team was added. At full strength our side this year might be competitive, we have never remotely been close to full strength. Only when we tried Averillo at fullback and Sexton at half do we have the right players in those positions, had we started the season with that combination we would have gone better. The team has been ordinary for 5 seasons, the year our full strength side is probably better than previous seasons. I think that we should replace Tommo becuase we can't take the risk that an expensive player in a key position will be out injured for large parts of next season. Agree 100%. With Averillo at FB and no Flanno, we win some closer early season games.
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+x+xLike always, I'll go into today's game with a smidgen of hope that we can start well, get in the board and Penrith having a bad day. Hell, I might even be stupid enough to take +29 line bet. But I think we all know that Penrith has our measure and will pile on points at some stage in the game. It's just a matter of how much we can stop them. Here's hoping an early try turns the 29 into a 35 point lead and we can somehow defend that.... I am not optimistic but +29 is a fair margin. If the Panthers are leading by 20 with 20 mins to go, they might cruise, rest some important players and give fringe players more minutes. Alright, alright... You convinced me you basterd...
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Groooooaaannnn…
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What position is our Hooker playing???…
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+xI don't think that the number of teams in the comp has much to do with our current problems.
Do you honestly believe what you posted. Just one extra team has stripped the League of 30 players of which 3 or 4 are starting quality middles... we only needed 2 but none are available. Every new addition thins the ranks and it will get to a stage where if any other team has a horror run of injuries, their season will unfortunately mirror the sh!t year we are having.
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Clueless…
CC lost me today with whatever the hell he is doing with our Hooker…
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Marki
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Faark.
I needed +49
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Marki
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+x+xI don't think that the number of teams in the comp has much to do with our current problems.
Do you honestly believe what you posted. Just one extra team has stripped the League of 30 players of which 3 or 4 are starting quality middles... we only needed 2 but none are available. Every new addition thins the ranks and it will get to a stage where if any other team has a horror run of injuries, their season will unfortunately mirror the sh!t year we are having. You need to ask yourself the following question.. How many of the dolphins players would we have bothered signing ? We chose not to sign any of them.
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We are trying a few experiments this game,they are not working.
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hounddog
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+x+xI don't think that the number of teams in the comp has much to do with our current problems.
Do you honestly believe what you posted. Just one extra team has stripped the League of 30 players of which 3 or 4 are starting quality middles... we only needed 2 but none are available. Every new addition thins the ranks and it will get to a stage where if any other team has a horror run of injuries, their season will unfortunately mirror the sh!t year we are having. There are more than 1,000 guys capable of playing NRL in Australia
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What is the issue with Presto?
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I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan
I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan
I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan
I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan
Type with me....
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+xI deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan Type with me.... I decided to start supporting the Dogs in 1973,no way I could see this coming. We have least scored 2 tries.
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Thank you Jeral.
Saved me my $80.
I'm not a dumb fan after all....
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+xI deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan Type with me.... According to my maths you won.
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+x+xI deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan Type with me.... According to my maths you won. I nearly had to pull a calculator out but I somehow got there....
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+x+xI deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan I deserve this shit coz I'm a dumb fan Type with me.... According to my maths you won. Thank you. I owe you a beer. Dman, you had your chance and you blew it!
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