That's what I am saying..... we certainly never get the rub of the green and we are continually getting poor calls and decisions against us.... so is it autonomous and not intentional...... week after fvck week no matter who we play. I smell an agenda and the NRLol reeks of skullduggery.

He has defended in the centres including at SOO level.

Most of our problems are 2 guys on different wave lengths and team mates not covering.

Good defence starts with good centres and backwaters, often the centres and backrowers help the halves and often an edge can form a combination.

IMO Kiraz is a good defensive centre, Critter is excellent, but might be playing fullback.

Yeah well, done it before 2 years ago and last year in origin is no good to us at the moment.
His defence (as well as afew others) has dropped off remarkably and it shows with our team routinely conceding over 30 points per game and closer to 40.

Obviously there is abit of a switch-off, but that just shows how unprofessional they are. We usually end a poor season on abit of an up. But this year it's getting worse. 

I have absolutely no confidence whatsoever that next year will be any better. None. I honestly reckon we should be wooden spoon favourites coz I see better improvement in the Tigers and Dragons

Fans can be a peak pessimism just before things turn. 

Tigers this season are an example.

We need 2-3 good signings to get out of the mire, they don't need to be household names.

Neptunes clouds have apparently disappeared… Bloody humans and their carbon… destroying the galaxy… we are now in the age of galactic boiling…

Yeah sun screen is essential if you are holidaying on Mercury.

I am still 95% sure Gus knows what he is doing.

And if CC doesn't, Gus will will replace him soon enough.

You are just echoing the sentiments of the 'Insane Clown Posse' from The Kennel. And I bet that when we lift next year they will be the first to praise Gould and Ciraldo for their mighty effort and also backflip on their bagging out of our players.

Will you do likewise?.

If we rest on our laurels, we will never improve sufficiently to challenge for the title.

This is professional sport. You can't just sit back and take poor results without questioning why.

I don't think it was unreasonable for majority of fans to have expected an improvement in the teams performance and results this year compared to last -even with the early injury toll.

This season has been a failure given the expectation off the back of key recruitments. And we are no better than last year. In fact there are just as many question marks now (on positions) than there was last year.

Will I praise CC if we turn things around next year?
Maybe, depending on the level of improvement. If it's a good turnaround, YES. If it's marginal, NO.

Will I backflip on my comments from this year?
Absolutely NOT. I stand by them. I wouldn't have said them if I didn't think they were warranted.

The way I see it Gould had an agenda and a plan, he knew that Ciraldo was the ideal candidate as he cut his apprenticeship in a winning culture and knew what was required to breed success. It appears that 1) due to injuries forcing junior players into first grade prematurely and 2) some players not buying into CC's model, CC was unable to obtain the desired results. Given the cleanout we are having I hope that Gus and CC can get some of the cattle they need to regroup and start again next season. We don't need million dollar forwards, just good honest frontmen to to hold their own and give Mahoney, Burton and Sexton some space to create something. I see a huge improvement in 2024.

Many teams hit a flat spot when they rack up a few injuries, this season Roosters, Sharks have had patches like that.

Other teams underperformed expectations Eels, Rabbits,

It is hard to know how we would have gone without all of the injuries.

Early on when we were playing well we lost a tight game against the Warriors, they kicked on, we went backwards. That didn't surprise me, but we went further backwards than I expected.

Couldn’t agree more. We had a horrific injury run and it hurt the team late in the year much more than any supporter thought it would. We are short on props still and hopefully that can improve soon. Next year I have little doubt we will be much better

The season might have gone pearshaped anyway.

Ultimately the team had some major issues in the front row and centres. But lots of issues to work on.

I doubt that another coach would have got different results.

Who knows how we would have gone without the injuries.

That game turned both clubs seasons. The wrong way for us unfortunately. If we had won that the team’s confidence may have pushed all the way to finals. Like Melbourne next year we need to bank early wins. And just scrape through the rest. 

Probably better hd, but I still think that the players that wouldn't or couldn't buy into CC's plan may have left us wanting.

They is why I dont buy the injury excuse...
Souths, Roosters, Cowboys and Eels are prime example that if your players are not playing well, it will cost you many games and ultimately can decide if you are playing finals or not.

All those teams went through large chunks of the season in bad form and cost themselves wins. Had hardly anything to do with injuries.

Even our team....we played better defensively with a huge rotation of players (even if we lost games) and yet here we are now with full squad and we are playing as bad as anytime in the season.

It's just poor form and the inability to arrest the downward slide. We are not alone as there are 4 sides with more fancied player lists that have also copped it.

My concern is that we have yet to figure out how to arrest it or address it. 

This I agree with.

Wow, the BDP is very quiet. We're going so good there's nothing to debate.

The Slimeys unfortunately won  I only enjoy their losses.

Dogs are playing for pride and next season, I don't know what to expect.

Reserve grade have also lost their major.

Not much hope anyone in reserve grade will push strongly for NRL selection.

I am pleased that Damon Marshall is playing reserve grade, might see him in NRL next season. 

Well that's debatable.....😝

Groan.........thats all I have right now. A mountain of posession in the first half, more offloads than  Manly and nothing doing.  We are making Manly look like a top four side. My heart bleeds......

Alll that has been said been said .The passion playing for the club has been lost . Is Gus the man to turn it around who knows ? . Cannot see things getting better next year but we live in  hope ..

Woeful performance. I  suspect that I am one of the last fans to switch off. 

So embarrassing 

Ive walked away from the telly. I cant keep torturing myself. 

Those players rhat cant subscribe to CC's coaching can pack their shit and bugger off. 

It’s so poor that our most creative player Avo was moved to the centres and then let go by the club. But more importantly what have our forwards been told by the coach? They are running soft and missing easy tackles. Liam Knight has gotten worse each game. Clearly something is wrong with our training or coaching. 

I reckon there are signs CC has lost the dressing room.

Now Flanno has come on to inspire the team . Says it all ..