Hahaha

Maybe the reason why Zef is laying low of late, is he’s on a secret mission to bring the 11th Immortal home!!!

I don't care if they have to use subtitles or one of the signers they use in New Zealand (they always seem so animated) he is doing okay and has highlighted what I said more than a few times in that Klemmer would make big metres but they gave a false impression. Napa is more direct and better suited o our needs.Good on him...I take back almost all of what I said in the past

Michael, it is time we had that talk. I know that you came on late and propped up the middle extremely well. They were threatening to make a comeback and that was taken away. But they don't see that. Yes, I do think they are wrong but who am I to say. I used to say they blame you for the loss and they win in spite of you. I think I can amend that now and just say "they blame you". They overlook the fact that you and your mates Ogden and Smith all came on late together so there was bound to be a bit of a changeover period. But they don't care. They don't really care if you scored 2 tries and set up another. You are the proverbial whipping boy. They have it in for you mate. Bloody hell they even suggest Nu Brown. he is the true one trick pony...he can score a try from dummy half when close to the opposition line but that really only works in reserve grade. In the NRL it really doesn't work. They don't care that he is prone to rashness and can't prop up the middle. They would still blame you even if you weren't playing. Insensitive bunch. Yep. But maybe it is time to look at the Super league. England is nice this time of year mate. We have had some good times but this mob can't remember them. Their loss. All the best mate.

Yes I really liked what I saw of Napa yesterday.
Was concerned with the little minutes he was playing in first 2 rounds, but he stepped up big ti.e yesterday.

Hope to see more of it. 

Steve, you are too attached to the players my friend.....
You need to start to think of them as nothing but commodities.
Trust me, you will feel a lot better.

t.i.c. Marki 

It could just be coincidence but our attack has looked ordinary most of the time when Lichaa has been on the field this season.

Lichaa (and this other Panthers 9, I can't remember) looked great at the start of their career in the lower grades, in both cases the play was centred around them and having that kind of 9 set the style for the whole team. Both players haven't kicked on the other guy who looked even better than Lichaa in the lower grades has barely played an NRL game.I can only think that style does not work in the NRL.

In our side I want the dummy half giving good service to the halves, Foran, Lewis (and Cogger) are all capable of making something happen, JMK is doing a much better job of providing that service at this stage. In the lower grades, Lichaa style was to play short with runners coming off him, all opposition defences are well set for that, it is what they expect form us.

I agree Nu Brown is a rock/diamonds player prone to brain explosions, and makes a lot of silly mistakes. The reason for that (I think) is he tries to hard when he gets an opportunity in the NRL,   He might make a good 14, if Pay can calm him down, and reduce his error rate.

The other thing Lichaa used to have in the lower grades is a good running game and a bit of speed, he lost all of that when Des turned him into an 80 minute player. If he can get some of that back, he might make a good 14.

It is early in the season, still time for Lichaa to come good, but being dropped might be good for him, he needs to rediscover his game, get more game time and get some confidence. 

If Pay can find or make a good option for 14, that can take this team to the next level.

I agree we look a lot better with JMK than Lichaa. Hopefully we get this dragons kid Robson and he and JMK would be a good pairing. 

I saw a few pieces of the jigsaw click into place yesterday. We are still going to need at least 1 centre also ASAP.

The point of the next 2 years is to hopefully build a solid base of our future team so that we can lash out on a few key signings when we get the cap space back and take it to the next level. 

HD..sometimes there is someone who gives his all and is maligned by all. I just feel it is necessary to stick up for them. Not necessarily due playing ability but in the belief that after a great win someone may see fit to focus on the positives. On form we could certainly get a better player in the 17. But at the same time I fail to see why everyone should focus on him. IMO there has only ever been one totally useless HOS (heap of...) with no redeeming features at all and that is T rex...something I make no apologies for saying. Whilst some speak of the Des years as our Dark Ages I think the T Rex years are the dark ages. I really do not think he had any ability and was lazy, At least poor old Ben Czislowski tried his guts out even though he'd be belted he'd get up again and go. 

I agree.
 
The time for signing established NRL talent is when we are making the 8 on a regular basis and are looking to convert a window into premierships.

That is also when the coach has a good idea of exactly what we need and when established NRL talent will find our club attractive.

 All players want a premiership ring. Young kids initially just want a chance to play NRL. 

Steve I do feel sorry for Lichaa as Des has played a role in stuffing his career.

But it is time for him to take charge of his destiny, I still think he has talent and needs to look at old tapes of how he played in the lower grades, and also look at how Cameron Smith and JMK are playing. If he keeps working on his game, that is his best chance, especially if he can rediscover his old running game.
T Rex is a bit the same a Lichaa, sometimes a guy looks great on the lower grades or even of a year or 2 in the NRL, but Lichaa has tried hard every game, and works hard at training,

T Rex at least gave the impression of being lazy and was very lazy in defence on a regular basis.  In a team sport leaving the job to others is bad manners and bad for team morale. Everyone is happy if the team member tries hard and misses, no one is happy if they don't make the effort. Lochaa is a hard working defender and a good defender, we just need more from him in attack.

Dear Michael, you have the worst passing game of any dummy half I have ever seen which stifles our attack. Your kicking game is non existent and whenever you make a half-break you look like a deer in the headlights and eventually slip over or force a pass that's not on. I'm willing to give some of the other players a chance at that bench utility role at least until JMK can last the full 80 minutes. Pack your bags.

Fair assessment HD and take your point Steve.

It's paramount to have a good dummy half and if they can kick even better.

Lichaa gives his all but our attack stutters and baulks and forwards get smahed. His passing is slow, not crisp and often too high and difficult to catch at the line.

It's gotta be more than a coincidence that his halves (Reynolds/Mbye....not saying much) have castigated him and now Foran has had a bit of a go at him. Something isn't working.

We want the team to be successful and he has had a fair go with the past 2 coaches.  SuperLeague is a good option for him at this point in his career.

You don't get it....you did exactly what I said...did you bother to praise meany, CHN, Foran and Okunbor? methinks not. Yes I agree in essence that Lichaa does not have the passing game but then again he has the ticker. 

Guys, its horses for courses as i have stated before.
Lichaa may be good in a team that rolls forward with ease but looks very 1 dimensional and stifles our one-out attack with his slow and poor passing. The fact he plays premeditated tells me is not a good player in the modern game. 

It's time we moved him on given JMK has proved the better starting option. We just now need to find our backup hooker on the interchange bench.

It's also time for Lichaa to move to a different team environment- if anyone would take him. 

If we play like this against the dragqueens @ kogaraha i cant see why we cant beat them
This week again nick meany played good
but cory haeira neira had a bit of sunny bill in
him his 2 nd fase play was good but he hobbled
off with 10 remaining hope his ok he & foran had 
a leg problem hope his ok as 

I just can't help but think back to when he opened his big mouth after playing the best three games of his NRLol career, he was happy to blame the coach and game plan and went so far as to say he ignoring the coach and plan allowed him to shine...
Different plan, different coach for nearly 30 games of footy since and we have seem nothing like those 3 games...
His running game has not improved, his passing game has not improved... Only one person is responsible for that...
And its easy to say we win in spite of him, except for most of his time here we haven't won much... And we certainly (other than 2 games) never won because of him...

Just recieved a video clip from the sheds
all the boys singing the dogs are having 
a party with elliett in the middle banging 
the garbo 

This game has to be the standard we aim for most weeks.

If we play this well and are beaten, I'm happy as we haven't lost the game, the other team has won  it. 

I'm glad we had a win before playing the Storm, and glad that they are top of the table undefeated, and looking good, while we are 2nd last.
Some chance we might get some complacency from them, but we know Bellyache will be laying down the law. 

So tough game for us, and I would be delighted with a win, at least we are some chance, and if the Storm win, we should make them earn it.

I think we all know what game Lichaa has but I don't see why he rates so many mentions after a good win yesterday.   He has been dropped to the bench but still gets more words said about him than 80 minute players. 

Holland has been woeful this year but nary a word said about him, must be the pretty blue eyes. Lichaa should get some blue contacts.

Someone gets it!! Thank fek! where are the mentions of the debutants from give a Doggabone...there are none..not even a mention of Meany's electrifying pickup and run to set up the first try. Has Des hijacked an identity??

No team would roll forward with ease with him at DH... Not even the mighty South's pack could by the time he stands, looks both left and right, then takes twi to three steps toward the D line, followed by lollipop pass...
By the time he passes most D is only two metres away...
I wanted to give him a fair go this year cos he looked fit, and kept his mouth shut, and there was allegedly a heap of skills training... But.. I simply can't...

Rubbish... Dutchy has been panned by most on here... With the same level of vitriol as lich...

I agree, Holland hasn't offered anything except heart palpitations. Needs to go due to poor form!!

And I'm not gonna let one win against side that didn't turn up, and is not really a contender for the eight sugar coat what I see...

More rubbish... OK, CHN, Foz, Meaney, OGS and others received plenty of plaudits...
Its OK for us to talk about what would make us an even better team... Even if that means dropping your fav Lichaa or mine Holland..

Still Dman after a great weekend when we won all 5 grades and the NRL team put in a good performance, there is a lot of negativity here.

Tigers turned up, but I always had a hunch that they would revert to type and push passes if we defended well. 

We did defend well, Jacko in the middle and Hoppa in the centres made a big difference, CHN was stellar, Elliott made a great difference, Meaney was fast, Okunbor was good and the last  tackle of the match was the highlight.

So a lot to like about our performance, the changes worked, the Tigers still defended well and moved the ball well.

I expect the Storm to be more of a challenge, we can play better than this and still be beaten, so why not enjoy this win for a few days?  

Only negative if you blindly support lichaa...
And if you really think the tigers turned up, I'd suggest you try to get your hands on vision of Madge's half time spray...
Annnnnd... Again there's been plenty of plaudits... Plenty... From everyone...

I agree Pay can look at options for 14, and it might be best for Lichaa to work on his game in reserves.

Holland isn't that bad IMO, and is saved by the fact I can't readily see a replacement option, but sooner or later Harper will make a push for this position. That will improve our defence and yardage IMO, but Holland is still the better attacking player.   

In fact having Harper bump Holland from the centres to 14 is the ideal solution IMO, Holland was good in that role last year.

But after a great win like that I don;t expect Pay to make changes, so Lichaa and Holland get another chance and there will be plenty of time to rubbish them after the next loss (or we will recruit Coote and be undefeated from here...).

Madge's spray was from Tigers pushing the pass, he admitted in the presser, we defended well and completed well, the Tiger are prone to losing patience.

IMO being the underdog is an advantage when you defend well and complete well, the other team turns up expecting to win, in an arm wrestle they are always likely to blink first.

I agree we need to look at a replace for Lichaa at 14 when we have one. The only value having Lichaa in that role at present is if we cop an early injury and need Lichaa to come on and defend up the middle.