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Steveswr1 - 25 Jul 2018 10:02 AM
Gee...the Rorters' site buzzing with the news of Brett Morris' signature for 2019....NOT!!!!!

Sorry to break it to you Steve.
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Taulau and Fine off to the ESL
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One problem is the bunker slows down the game ....

They have 2 refs and 2 touch judges .. if all think try (and are not tipped otherwise by the bunker) then rule try....

Use the bunker when the refs have a strong element of doubt.... 

Apart from that give a captain 2 (unsuccessful) challenges per half... on any decision....

You are always going to get decisions that are very hard to call either way, even with the best technology...

You are always going to get mistakes .. but in a good sporting contest the game flows...all modern sports allow too many stoppages.


I don't think rugby league has a "flow" problem.
If there is a flow problem it was when the refs were blowing a million penalties.
One must only look at SOO games or GF games to see how well these games "flow".

There is nothing wrong with taking 30seconds or 1min to review a contentious try scoring play. In fact there is nothing wrong with refs sending just about every try scoring play other than maybe the clear cut ones. Its all about not making a howler of a mistake.

But to have the technology, ref send a decision up to them, everyone on the ground and in front of a tv seeing a mistake and the bunker being unable to pull it up, is just pure travesty.

That's all they have to fix. Nothing else. The game is going great guns. Never been better in my opinion as far as decision making is concerned.

Oh and 1 last one. If a pass looks forward on the replay, the bunker should have authority to rule on it.

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Nancy - 25 Jul 2018 4:06 PM
The bunker needs a couple grenades thrown in it.

Typical old man/woman syndrome.
Unwilling to embrace or acknowledge the benefits technology.


Fair contests not good enough for you Nancy?

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Nancy - 25 Jul 2018 4:32 PM
Taulau and Fine off to the ESL

No loss to the Bulldogs or NRL.....
In fact I think they are lucky they had that option.

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Goes 2 show how bad our cap was
Finialy brett morris rumour comes out
Weeks after he signed , hope we can sign
A reasonable centre to partner hopa
As it seems meany will get 1st crack
@ no 1 but i still not sure he looks way 2
Thing 🙀
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Marki - 25 Jul 2018 4:35 PM
Nancy - 25 Jul 2018 4:06 PM

Typical old man/woman syndrome.
Unwilling to embrace or acknowledge the benefits technology.


Fair contests not good enough for you Nancy?

Have respect for your elders,  I've even heard young people with my opinion who would have thought.  Just keep living in 2012 and yearning for the return of a despicable rat.
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Gould gives this season a 2 out of 10, so right one of the worst seasons ever.
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Nancy - 25 Jul 2018 4:58 PM
Gould gives this season a 2 out of 10, so right one of the worst seasons ever.

Is that Marki ? 

Or someone else getting 2 out of 10?

edit: I though it said His season :)
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Tony:-
i still not sure he looks way 2
Thing 🙀 

This quote from tony is a classic ....
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My biggest problem with the bunker is that they seem to have the capacity to rule on offside or knock ons without issue so wouldn't it be a bit controversial to say they can't rule on forward passes?
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And I don't buy the "camera angle" excuse.
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Nancy - 25 Jul 2018 4:53 PM
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Have respect for your elders,  I've even heard young people with my opinion who would have thought.  Just keep living in 2012 and yearning for the return of a despicable rat.

With all due respect (pun intended), all sports that have embraced video review technology and radars have beneffited and rugby league is no different.

Only those who dont want to acknowledge the facts would disagree but wouldnt be able to provide supporting evidence to the contrary. 
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ODF - 25 Jul 2018 6:15 PM
My biggest problem with the bunker is that they seem to have the capacity to rule on offside or knock ons without issue so wouldn't it be a bit controversial to say they can't rule on forward passes?

Thats the problem ODF. NRL made the decision to NOT allow them to rule on it - which is silly in my opinion. 

The Olympic broadcast seems to be able to superimpose the world record line moving from swimmers or track runners. They could do the exact same for a running player throwing a "back motion" pass that "floats" forward quite easily. 

Technology seems to be there. Dont know why they choose to ignore it.
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hounddog - 25 Jul 2018 5:31 PM
Tony:-
i still not sure he looks way 2
Thing 🙀 

This quote from tony is a classic ....

Is he saying a cat thingy?
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Nancy - 25 Jul 2018 4:25 PM
Steveswr1 - 25 Jul 2018 10:02 AM

Sorry to break it to you Steve.

I am going to find it so hard to hate him...but I did think he had more scruples

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2019   season  looking good   
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So we've "saved" a bit more with Tualau leaving a year early? I really thought he had the makings of a very good Prop/2nd Rower and a guy Pay would shape into a great forward.

If Priest re-signed it will be a backward step.

Happy that Martin re-signed.

Brett Morris ...no comment except...

" Funds are no issue in the Eastern Suburbs, however, as the Roosters add to a star-studded signing spree headlined by Morris, Hall and Rabbitohs second-rower Angus Crichton".

This ^^ the only piece of even vaguely questioning comment on the rorters sombrero...get their Football Contracts Manager over to Belmore pronto.
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Tony proud of you...love the sense of irony in your comment.

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Steveswr1 - 26 Jul 2018 8:48 AM
tony v_2 - 26 Jul 2018 7:29 AM

Tony proud of you...love the sense of irony in your comment.

what do you want me 2 say  steve   ?, it is what it is  look @ the roosters they seem to be able 2 buy & buy & we let go of half of our squad  
looking @ the roosters  cronk, tedesko, b morris , r hall he alone has scored 30 tries in the  E S L this season , taopu, napa , cordiner ,cleary  l mitchel can anyone tell 
me they are UNDER THE CAP  i highly dout it but as long as they dont win it this year it i will be happy
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tony v_2 - 26 Jul 2018 9:01 AM
Steveswr1 - 26 Jul 2018 8:48 AM

what do you want me 2 say  steve   ?, it is what it is  look @ the roosters they seem to be able 2 buy & buy & we let go of half of our squad  
looking @ the roosters  cronk, tedesko, b morris , r hall he alone has scored 30 tries in the  E S L this season , taopu, napa , cordiner ,cleary  l mitchel can anyone tell 
me they are UNDER THE CAP  i highly dout it but as long as they dont win it this year it i will be happy

...And so say all of us..again it all stems from the fact the chief sponsor is also their CEO...no loose lips sink ships here...it is all the conniving of Politis.hell I hate them a little bit more today than I did yesterday and it will be a little bit more tomorrow

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The problem with the salary cap as it is presented at the moment, is that it is not effective and is only fuelling the problem that it was designed to eliminate. This is due to the NRL not policing it or even attempting to make it transparent, therefore inviting some clubs to exploit its' integrity (which they duly have). Ditching the SC altogether is not an option but, there has to be a way that the NRL can monitor the inclusion of luctritive TPAs in players contracts. This may not completely fix the issue, because there will always be people looking for a loophole to take advantage of, but, it may stop some teams stacking their sides with "stars" while others are left to cobble a side together while all are limited to a supposed "cap". Rugby league players are no different than any other profession and have the right to command what they are truly worth. Maybe the only solution would be to increase the cap to a realistic amount where ALL teams can have a fair crack at the talent pool on offer.
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I don't see how or why clubs should be involved with TPA's at all.

If a player's got the profile to earn extra money doing commercials or spruiking this or that  - good, go for it. As much as you can earn. But him and his manager find the business and do all the dealing, why does a club have to be involved?

Be a lot easier (though not perfect) to police if clubs knew if there was even a sniff of their involvement, any promise of anything, they're knicked.

Put it hand in hand with my long held belief that all three parties  - club, manager and player - are responsible AND culpable to making sure all declarations to THE NRl are legit and you start policing the thing properly.

If a player knows that if his contract that he signs off on is dodgy that means 2 years out of the game for him and the same or more for the manager and a life ban for the Club CEO (or whomever represents the club) - they police each other.
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what do you want me 2 say  steve   ?, it is what it is  look @ the roosters they seem to be able 2 buy & buy & we let go of half of our squad  
looking @ the roosters  cronk, tedesko, b morris , r hall he alone has scored 30 tries in the  E S L this season , taopu, napa , cordiner ,cleary  l mitchel can anyone tell 
me they are UNDER THE CAP  i highly dout it but as long as they dont win it this year it i will be happy

I agree Tony....

But we are playing by the rules and undoing past mistakes...

For 2019 we are mainly backing our judgement and running with unproven talent, it is a gamble, but the situation is likely to get progressively better.

Some of our gambles will come off and we will have progressively more to spend on recruitment and retention in coming seasons.

In our case high player turnover is not a bad thing....the squad 2013-2018 mostly showed they didn't have it and the business end and got progressively worse with each successive season.... the attempted quick fix with Woods & Foran didn't work.(IMO this was worth a punt, but probably not at the prices we paid).


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micheal lichha being told by the club
2 look around even though he has 1 more year
On his contact 2 run
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tony v_2 - 26 Jul 2018 11:11 AM
micheal lichha being told by the club2 look around even though he has 1 more year On his contact 2 run

Another made up piece of garbage no doubt from The Kennel or was this from those mysterious Canterbury officials?

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Zef - 26 Jul 2018 9:55 AM
I don't see how or why clubs should be involved with TPA's at all.

If a player's got the profile to earn extra money doing commercials or spruiking this or that  - good, go for it. As much as you can earn. But him and his manager find the business and do all the dealing, why does a club have to be involved?

Be a lot easier (though not perfect) to police if clubs knew if there was even a sniff of their involvement, any promise of anything, they're knicked.

Put it hand in hand with my long held belief that all three parties  - club, manager and player - are responsible AND culpable to making sure all declarations to THE NRl are legit and you start policing the thing properly.

If a player knows that if his contract that he signs off on is dodgy that means 2 years out of the game for him and the same or more for the manager and a life ban for the Club CEO (or whomever represents the club) - they police each other.

Definitely a better way than we currently have.
Just like ATO, the individual has primary responsibility to ensure submissions are true and accurate, followed by manager/agent and followed by employer.

Catch 1 or 2 with significant punishments across the board and you'll clean it up in a couple of years.
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hounddog - 26 Jul 2018 10:15 AM
tony v_2 - 26 Jul 2018 9:01 AM

I agree Tony....

But we are playing by the rules and undoing past mistakes...

For 2019 we are mainly backing our judgement and running with unproven talent, it is a gamble, but the situation is likely to get progressively better.

Some of our gambles will come off and we will have progressively more to spend on recruitment and retention in coming seasons.

In our case high player turnover is not a bad thing....the squad 2013-2018 mostly showed they didn't have it and the business end and got progressively worse with each successive season.... the attempted quick fix with Woods & Foran didn't work.(IMO this was worth a punt, but probably not at the prices we paid).


Well said HD.
In defence of Pay and the current board, woods and foran were also gambles by the old coach and board. 

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tony v_2 - 26 Jul 2018 11:11 AM
micheal lichha being told by the club2 look around even though he has 1 more year On his contact 2 run

1 more year?
I thought Pay only gave him 2018?
Why does this guy keep getting free runs in top grade? Even SL wouldn't sign him.
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