Wrong again  .... Foran was signed for 3 years.  No the other two do not come anywhere close to Foran, you are full of it.

Don't you mean "self interest" first....you seem to promote "Marki" a hell of a lot more than anything else. Also the evidence of Foran is in his play. 

What a shambles we are....


I keep hearing it from Pay that were a young team etc, but with the exception of the Warriors, Eels & Dragons game where we got absolutely flogged, most other games we’ve been in it. 

Could we have won 1,2 or maybe 3 of them close games we’ve lost under a different coach this year?

Same as last year....


For some reason, I can’t agree with Pay of late about being a young team etc. Last night, it was our experienced players that let the team down with drop balls, late tackle count penalties etc.... not the young ones. 


Im with Nancy..... give Pay a payout & find a coach that can string a sentence together & coach/upskill the group of players he has at his disposal ASAP 

Player history, you mean every game he's played this season???... 
consistently has the defence in two minds and creates almost all of our opportunities...
maybe if you'd watched more than 3 bulldogs games this year you'd know that...

Just reading.... Storm recruitment boss in England to check out any potential talent across the Superleague magic round


Did anyone ask Lynne Anderson where our recruitment guy is on Thursday night?

Says Pays greatest advocate from a year and a half ago...

Shoulda nabbed Holbrook when we had the chance.... but no it just had to be a bulldog...

Yeah I was.... what’s your point?

He got given a go.... moved on some players, purchased his own players for this year, but nothing has changed except many have gone backwards

Time to move him on mate.... or as one last chance, get him a decent assistant coach to help him before punting him

Holbrook is a bulldog too don’t forget

He’s spent time in the UK, done well, bring him over now

The new board has done a fair job with recruitment considering the absolute clusterfvck with which they were left cap wise... 
most posts on here indicate recruits such as napa, chn, Meaney, and to some extent cogger are players around which we can build a team...
the main thing is they don't take advice from the likes of you cos we'd sign every player in the comp on the back of one good game... or  several time losers like carney and Locke...

Lolol... please tell me more about holbrooks illustrious career in the bulldogs playing and coaching ranks... 

The club, the supporters, the BDP have to forget the past, forget the push to get Bulldogs DNA back into the joint, the recriminations, the stubborn ideas etc.

We have to admit we got it wrong. The change was sought to bring in fresh ideas from the Despot years.

Who would have thought it could go this wrong. Any excuse of young roster, inexperience, inability to concentrate for 80, bad attitude..its rubbish.

The coach is not first grade quality and neither is the majority of the playing group. However there is enough experience and quality there to enable them to compete better.

It's not happening for all the reasons all us 'experts' have detailed.

Sadly you can't escape the fact its a combination of every negative shortcoming in the team. 

It's the coaches job to bring out their best of what they've got. Wrong selections. Not once have we put the best team on the park. Too many bandaid patch ups from a rattled coach.

If Pay isn't sacked, or at least given extra help, the club are digging the hole deeper and deeper...we can't just go on turning in these efforts. We are crucifying Pay's career as well as the club's.

Disagree. 

The board failed to address with the coach last season the need to sign a No9 & some quality in the backs to inject into the side

The team had little issues last year getting into the opposition red zone.... yet we had fekk all talent to turn them opportunities into tries which cost a number of games last year & it’s costing us again this year. 


Sue, Meaney, Cogger, Crichton, CHN have now spent time in reggies this year.... you call that fair recruitment?

Of all the players we purchased for this year... CHN is the only player of 1st grade standard calibre 


If we keep buying plodders, it will be Rd 12 2020 & I bet we’ll be discussing the exact same crap we’re covering right now as we did in 2018, as we did in 2017.

I agree.

Towards the end of last year, Lichaa played a few good games and earned an extension.
JMK was showing some promise, 9 didn't look quite as dire as it  does now and money was tight.
The players we signed are all going ok.
I'm now saying 9 is dire and we need to do something ASAP.
Our coach also needs to prove he can handle the job, but having good 9 will help.

I don't know if we can be sure that the coach and players are rubbish.

That is like saying a soccer team with no goalkeeper is rubbish....

When the team is lacking in key areas, everyone looks bad.

All we can do is address problems in sequence.

After 9 we need a good prop who makes yards and has an offload.

Depending on how Cogger progresses we might need a halfback.

Centre we have Harper that is a position where a good young guy can do the job.

9,7, 8 and 10 you need good players otherwise everyone else is under pressure.

What I am saying on middle forwards is that we have great depth, but are lacking quality.
So we don't need more players, just one good player and get rid of one or 2 less capable players.
Sue, Danny, Elliott, Jackson, Tolman, Napa are all ok, but none of them sparks much in the way of attack.

It is easy to say but hard to do...some of the suggestions have been jokes Segueyro for example. or blokes that are tied up on 3 year contracts as though it is a matter of snapping the fingers and you get what is wanted. Recruitment from NRL clubs is pretty hard. Have to look outside of the box.

Last night when Montoya made that final minute break.... he got the ball and had it on his right side with CNK coming to him...

Instead of transferring the ball to his left side to use his right hand to fend him off, he had next to zero chance of getting past him

Again, a decent 1st grade standard backline player that gets half a chance like that would have the instinct to do the above In order to get past the last line of defence & have some hope of scoring from that play

Watch the replay.... 

I know names like Reece Robson and Brittian have been mentioned as No9’s to sign up.... 

But with the spine that we have currently.... an experienced No 9 is a must, not an unproven NRL standard player 


We should still sign up the next Brittan etc, but what we need is quality & experience. 

Montoya is much improved IMO and more than did his job...

Still has areas he can improve, but is good enough for now, we have bigger problems.

I don't want to watch the replay, once was enough.

In sport all teams make mistakes, the key is to create and take enough opportunities..... we are mostly falling down on create at this stage.

It's the excuses that are rubbish for me.

There is enough talent and experience to perform to a FG level..they just aren't doing it...neither the players nor the coach.

Improvements to the roster are necessary to make Top 8 or 4 but the majority of the forwards are experienced for example.  They are horribly out of form and that's on the coach when it involves the majority of the team.

Nah seriously, watch the replay HD

Have you watched the replay yet?

While you say that you need to name a player who we can get, Cook is ideal but hard to imagine we can get him. Brailey bros at the Sharks are good. Manly have one good young hooker. Canberra have Hodgson.

Nancy is right England is worth investigating....

Brittan is way better than what we have and worth a punt, if we can't get someone really good.

Sometimes I watch the replay, I don't think I will get much out of it.

Pay offers lame excuses as he has to say something and he doesn't think criticism of the players will help.

He needs results and you don't get them in press conferences.... it is just part of the job.

Fair, not good, not great..
where the hell were these gun backs and rakes coming from and with what money???...

And why would they want to come here and play under the man you annointed for the top job in Pay???...

other than CHN all those guys would be in bottom dollar, cos that's all we could afford when trying to fill 30 spots...

you fail to acknowledge guys guys like the rumour and Bros mars have been fair pick ups to with a view to the future...

A couple of posts back you had these very same players with 2 or 3 more wins (just outside the eight) under a different coach...

Yep, hiya under contract that went gonna be let go last year... mentioning names is nothing... I can mention a name and we could chase em... does it mean they'll come??...

While I agree on most things, I am not seeing much potential in the mars bros.... still perhaps worth persisting with.

Why would Bennett let his #1 back up for cook go???...
fact is no one has any idea if we've approached the likes of Britain or Brailey, but assume we haven't cos it suits a rant...

Watch this space end of next year, the bitching will be 'how come so many players off contract at the same time, with no talent on the market'...

Everyone is underestimating how much difference a quality 9 and a really good prop would make.

Players are underperforming the coach is making mistakes and I hate the fact that we are finding ways to lose on a regular basis.

Winning breeds confidence, as does scoring points, it starts with good players in key positions.