Cleary took over a Panthers team full of talent that he wants to move a fair few on. 

  
Madge took over the Tigers also full of talent.. some ageing, that he too wants to move a fair few players on. 


We can not have Dean Pay anywhere near 1st grade coaching if we have 6,7,8 million $$$ of Salary Cap to spend come end of 2020. 

Who ever the new new coach will be, may not want the type of crap Dean Pay maybe looking for.  

Lolol... don't use Cleary as a example... look what he did to tigers...
Dud coach...

Not sure what’s worse.... watching an Idiot Dessy or Dean Pay after game presser????


The questions tonight asked to Pay were very simple.... his answers were muddled & unclear, like the Bulldogs

Tigers full of talent... bwahahahaha!!!!!....

Mate all I’m saying is a new coach seems to move on players.... another example is Seibold at the Broncos

He's your man Villi... You and your ilk got what was coming...
#hastobeabulldog...
#bulldogdna...

So what happened with Mybe, Woods, and others???...
And how's the whole moving players on thing going for coaches Daddy dearest and Madge???...

Yes.... got a chance, what’s wrong with that?

Hasnt worked out unfortunately. 


We move on & find someone that will get this club firing

What's wrong with that???.....

whats wrong with that?!?!?... He was signed by Dib&co cos they thought it would save their skin at the election in response to the Wolves prattlongbablut bulldog DNA.. Not because he was the right man for the job.,. That's what's wrong with it...

Got a chance???... its not fekking park football...

I'm off Holbrook since you've decided to back him...

2 years is a fair crack- not like there’s any semblance of improvement or anything 

Makes me wonder about Madge, did he actually walk away from bulldogs offers because of the books???... cos he walked into a very similar situation...

Dib&co should never be allowed through the front door of the leagues club again for what they did.,.

Hahaha.... so anyone your mate Dib came into contact with should be marched out of Belmore???

I guess Andrew Hill is next then?

Maybe someone should tell Steve Georgalis to move on as well


Please..... please name me who officially put their hand up to coach the Dogs when Idiot Des & his mates fekked us over?

Position is untenable... Has obviously lost the dressing room... And use of interchange and team selections is diabolical.., the decision to mess with the edges a mess that if he was man enough to admit he got wrong (like brown/ponga) could've seen us at least scoring points...

Jackson had to go to lock with the glut of 2nd rowers, and the change in JJs body shape and decline in speed... JJ should be rested for a month... he's completely exhausted...

i dont think hunk we've had what most would consider our best 17 on the park in any game yet,,.

Wasn't he Defensive coach at Raiders???... our has gone backward at a serious rate, while the raiders has improved out of sight.,,

Lets hope the Flanagan story is one of Markis smoke screens while the board are working to get someone else in next year... We can't wait for Flanagan...

Foran stepped up big time.
What about the dummy half.
Foran took everything on in half 1.
The scored our try in half 2.
Even the commentators said he was a 1 man band.

Bwahahaha... I can't... cos unlike others I don't pretend to know what the board (previous and incumbent) are doing...

Don't try to turn your ludicrous assertions back on me by putting words in my mouth... I never suggested anyone that came in contact blah blah blah...

face facts Villi... you wanted Pay... you hollered it  from the rooftops... And now your happy with "we gave him a chance".... pfffttt...

get back to suggesting we sign every player in the comp after one good game, or duds that are past their prime, or accusing the board of not trying to sign anyone (wrong), or hailing Cleary as a great coach for sweet retention/recruitment decisions (wrong), or demanding we play an X factor that doesn't exist...

We had to sort out the SC, this was always a very tough coaching gig, no sensible coach would touch it..

We are certainly finding out whether or not Pay can coach and the answer seems a very clear NO.

We can sack him at anytime and run with the assistant coach for the rest of the season, while it might not fix the problems, I can't see how it can make things any worse... a new coach is not going to gift us 30 new players .. so the  new coach has to get more out of this 30 ...  

Dean Pay needs to announce the following team vs Roosters:-

DWZ
Meaney
Harper
Hoppa
Smith

Cogger
Foran

Napa
JMK
Ogden
CHN
RFM
Jackson


Tolman
Brown
Martin
Renouf T

Fib needs a visit from some dumb leb bikies.

He needs to resign.

15 other blokes out there he could've named  but picked the best one on the park for us...

Simple question..... stop deflecting Dman


Who put their bloody hand up to coach the Dogs when your mate fekked us over????????

I think this kind of shambles is why the NRL has outlawed back loading,,,, they don't want clubs in the comp who are passengers and add very little to the season...

Still the players have shown in patches that they can play... our defence has been way below par all season..Pay has been trying to fix it .. but hasn;t been able to...

No team should fall in a heap after 1 HIA.
Granted it was the halfback but there should be mo excuses for Foran not becoming the halfback after Cogger went off. 

He did the same earlier in the year when Lewis was having a bad game (Souths I think). What does he do? He leaves Lewis to continue having a shocker. So much for your senior and experienced half.

No thanks. 

We had Martin come on and it should have shifted JMK to the halves. Instead, JMK stays at hooker along with Meaney.

Half time comes and goes and Pay does nothing to address the positional change. Cogger was already ruled out of the game.

What the fekk did Pay tell these guys at halftime? Who was halfback who was 5/8th? Why did Foran not step up? When will he?

It is so frustrating watching this team. Our reserves manage changes a whole lot better than this mob. I struggle to support them. 

Don't you pity the poor schmucks that go to watch this team and yes I'm one of them.  I don't think I can bring myself to go next week.  If Pay was sacked tomorrow I would go, otherwise I've had enough.

Foran actually looks like he is trying- unfortunately his body just doesn’t look up to it. Each step looks laboured.
I actually thought we looked better as a team with Cogger and Lewis. ATM defences zero in on Foran and we have nothing else

My big beef is DEAN'S tactics.
When SAINTS had the ball we always looked 2 players short both sides.
When the DOGS had the ball SAINTS looked like they had 20 players.
18 points down and 5 runs and a kick ????

It is about time to admit that Tolman adds nothing to the team as it is.
Crichton makes more post contact metres than him.  
We are leaking points anyway, why is he continuing to get the ball.
The game has passed him by. Can you see him playing for any other team???

The team looks beat, even JACKO, who needs a rest.
Guys like Elliot, Danny are not in the right grade. 

CHN is surely needed next to RFM, DWZ and Montoya back in CCC where he belongs.

Rubbish... the board who appointed him were in denial about any cap issues... No one else got a look in cos they thought a bulldog would ace their asrses at the election,.., And we had just signed Woods, Foran etc... Pay chose to coach a team that had missed the finals once in how long, and had the Australian front row....

Goodnight 

I answered your simple question..,

with an I don't know...

And facts are either do you...

I have also asserted that I don't think anyone else had a chance anyway cos Dib&co were gonna sign a bulldog no matter what to try and save their arse cod idiot fans kept claiming crap about Bulldog DNA and other bullsh1t.,,,

the rest want deflecting, merely highlight that your opinions are consistently wrong...

now get back to making simple statements...

Yes the previous board appointed him this board decided to sort out the SC, I'm not saying it is an excuse for the coach...but it does limit our replacement options.