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ODF - 5 Oct 2020 5:18 PM
Unfortunately zoz in 2012 we were against a good side in melbourne, but we did fight back. In 2014 different story. It didn't natter whether it was the Bulldogs, Penrith or any other team, souffs were always going to be given preference on calls in that game. The bell ringing bullsh!t at the start gave the ruse away.

Your not wrong there 2014 definitely was for Souffs to win ... Even them running on first you knew how the story would end.  Just getting there was actually exceptional great for the club ..
 




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hounddog - 5 Oct 2020 7:27 PM
Villi - 5 Oct 2020 6:55 PM

What was Hoops argument?

Burgess didn't do it? Or what he did was fine?


He went on.... ‘it’s only allegations at the moment’ & ‘You’ve only heard one side’ & ‘Sam is a colleague of mine, but he’s in the process of a messy divorce & kids in the middle of it’

Never once did he stick the boot in....

Pisshead even went on to say the Souths culture of Walker/Gray drugs issue, The USA pre season issue, Inglis drunk driving issue, Walker pre season cover up etc.... and again, Hooper shot him down
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In relation to the Laundy group not paying to be on the Jersey this year, what do we think it was worth?

It was towards the end of the season, we were not in contention perhaps featuring in a handful of free to air TV games.

What matters is the total deal. No idea on that, but I would hope that the overall deal is better than any other offer we got.
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Villi - 5 Oct 2020 6:55 PM
Villi - 5 Oct 2020 6:17 PM

Surprisingly, pisshead buzz wasn’t holding back on the Burgess issues, but that drop kick Hooper clearly was trying to spin things in Burgess’s favour the fwit 

What was Hoops argument?

Burgess didn't do it? Or what he did was fine?


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Villi - 5 Oct 2020 6:17 PM
Dman.... what’s the bet nothing will be spoken of on NRL 360 about that grub Burgess tonight!

But the Dogs boardroom battle will get plenty 

Surprisingly, pisshead buzz wasn’t holding back on the Burgess issues, but that drop kick Hooper clearly was trying to spin things in Burgess’s favour the fwit 
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Micko - 5 Oct 2020 6:18 PM
hounddog - 5 Oct 2020 5:56 PM

I agree that it was time fir Pay to go. I don’t think the board did sack him. They simply told him he wasn’t going to be signed on because Barrett was going to be coach. That is certainly a stretch from the ‘rebels’ to attack the board fir treating Pay poorly. 

100% Micko, clutching at straws these idiots!

Im surprised they didn’t mention about how harsh the likes of Grimaldi, Georgallis, Ayoub etc were dealt with too....

All we’re OFF CONTRACT including Pay & told there services won’t be required next year
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annav1 - 5 Oct 2020 5:33 PM
Six reason why we want Anderson gone
The grievances behind the push to have Canterbury matriarch Lynne Anderson ousted as the chair of the football club can be revealed.
The group of disgruntled voting members behind the extraordinary general meeting, where a vote will take place to have Anderson removed, have outlined a list of six issues that, in their opinion, make Anderson’s position as the club’s chair untenable.
Fellow board members John Ballesty and Paul Dunn, who were part of Anderson’s ticket in the 2018 election, are also in the firing line.
In a statement from the group, the grievances were listed as follows:
• The Laundys need to understand having their name on the front of the jersey is a great privilege and not a right.
• The members and supporters have concerns that board member John Ballesty’s business arrangements or partnerships are potentially a conflict of interest. There must be more clarity in regards to the Laundy Hotel Group’s sponsorship value.
• The notion that we need to look to our past to somehow point to the future shows the directionless and lack of imagination of the Anderson-led board.
• Anderson has shown no interest in delivering on any of her 9 pillars plan points she took to the 2018 AGM. We would like to see a detailed strategic plan for the club in the future. Anderson has failed to show vision for the club which was one of her 9 pillar points.
• Anderson’s board displayed no family values in their treatment of coach and club legend Dean Pay.
• The current board needs to provide clarity over the true arrangements with Mounties. Such a monumental decision was made without member consultation whatsoever and does not reflect the Bulldogs way.
In September, a report revealed Ballesty had failed to disclose to other board members that he co-owns a hotel with Arthur Laundy, raising questions about a potential conflict of interest.
Laundy’s pub empire, Laundy Hotel Group, agreed to become the club’s major sponsor until the end of 2022 in late July.
It was confirmed that Ballesty, at that time, had not disclosed his business partnership with Laundy to the entire board.
The group behind the EGM is also frustrated with the club’s partnership with Mounties, the colours of which will replace the blue and white of the Bulldogs in both the Canterbury Cup and NSWRL Women’s Premiership competitions until at least the end of season 2022.
On Saturday, it was revealed a number of current sponsors would consider walking away from the Bulldogs over concerns of the direction of the club and the influence of Laundy Hotel Group at Belmore.
That news came after The Daily revealed the Laundys could reconsider their agreement if the political infighting continued at the club.
Earlier this month a requisition with 116 signatures of voting members calling for an EGM was received by the club. The Bulldogs have 21 days, from when the requisition was received, to call a meeting where a vote deciding the future’s of Anderson, Ballesty and Dunn would take place.
It is understood that other than an acknowledgement that the requisition for an EGM was received, no one from the club has reached out to the disgruntled group in an attempt to broker a peace deal or at least find some common ground.
It’s a mess all parties want resolved before incoming coach Trent Barrett arrives at Belmore in November.
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The "we" need to identify themselves and come up with an option.  Those that go have to be replaced and there needs to be a plan going forward. Without this the "we" lack credibility.
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hounddog - 5 Oct 2020 5:56 PM
dman2018 - 5 Oct 2020 5:50 PM

Yep, the fact that they mention Pay is a smoking gun.

I like Pay, he deserved every chance and he got it.

But you don't extend the contract of a coach who isn't delivering, there is no really nice way to sugar coat that... as Deano would say ... It is what it is..

I agree that it was time fir Pay to go. I don’t think the board did sack him. They simply told him he wasn’t going to be signed on because Barrett was going to be coach. That is certainly a stretch from the ‘rebels’ to attack the board fir treating Pay poorly. 
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Dman.... what’s the bet nothing will be spoken of on NRL 360 about that grub Burgess tonight!

But the Dogs boardroom battle will get plenty 
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Villi - 5 Oct 2020 6:12 PM
Great to have you back posting Anna....

Not much has changed with the folks on here

Thank you.  I totally forgot about this forum.   Nothing much has progressed from a Bulldogs perspective.   
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Great to have you back posting Anna....

Not much has changed with the folks on here
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dman2018 - 5 Oct 2020 5:50 PM
annav1 - 5 Oct 2020 5:33 PM

What a pack of duds these agitators are... 

make reference to not looking back at tradition then reference family values...
Pay was showed more than due respect...
Maybe some members care about Ballesty/Laundy the majority don’t give a rats...
Calling for a detailed strategic plan yet we don’t know who the rmajority of these muppets are or what they’re offering...

Get the EGM on and relegate these agitating jokers to history!!!...

Theyve done more damage in two months than Lynne and Co could possibly do in 4 years...

Running to Weasler!!!... what a pack of grubs... no true bulldog supporter would consider such a thing... They care bought for the club and only for themselves...

Yep, the fact that they mention Pay is a smoking gun.

I like Pay, he deserved every chance and he got it.

But you don't extend the contract of a coach who isn't delivering, there is no really nice way to sugar coat that... as Deano would say ... It is what it is..
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annav1 - 5 Oct 2020 5:37 PM
the football club constitution needs a revamp

Everything is dated, tne leagues club is both a blessing and  a curse.

I am glad we have Hill and Barrett.

I also rate Ballesty,.

Apart from that there are too many clueless people with strong opinions and big egos, who think they know what is best for the club and think the leagues club is an ATM.
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annav1 - 5 Oct 2020 5:33 PM
Six reason why we want Anderson gone
The grievances behind the push to have Canterbury matriarch Lynne Anderson ousted as the chair of the football club can be revealed.
The group of disgruntled voting members behind the extraordinary general meeting, where a vote will take place to have Anderson removed, have outlined a list of six issues that, in their opinion, make Anderson’s position as the club’s chair untenable.
Fellow board members John Ballesty and Paul Dunn, who were part of Anderson’s ticket in the 2018 election, are also in the firing line.
In a statement from the group, the grievances were listed as follows:
• The Laundys need to understand having their name on the front of the jersey is a great privilege and not a right.
• The members and supporters have concerns that board member John Ballesty’s business arrangements or partnerships are potentially a conflict of interest. There must be more clarity in regards to the Laundy Hotel Group’s sponsorship value.
• The notion that we need to look to our past to somehow point to the future shows the directionless and lack of imagination of the Anderson-led board.
• Anderson has shown no interest in delivering on any of her 9 pillars plan points she took to the 2018 AGM. We would like to see a detailed strategic plan for the club in the future. Anderson has failed to show vision for the club which was one of her 9 pillar points.
• Anderson’s board displayed no family values in their treatment of coach and club legend Dean Pay.
• The current board needs to provide clarity over the true arrangements with Mounties. Such a monumental decision was made without member consultation whatsoever and does not reflect the Bulldogs way.
In September, a report revealed Ballesty had failed to disclose to other board members that he co-owns a hotel with Arthur Laundy, raising questions about a potential conflict of interest.
Laundy’s pub empire, Laundy Hotel Group, agreed to become the club’s major sponsor until the end of 2022 in late July.
It was confirmed that Ballesty, at that time, had not disclosed his business partnership with Laundy to the entire board.
The group behind the EGM is also frustrated with the club’s partnership with Mounties, the colours of which will replace the blue and white of the Bulldogs in both the Canterbury Cup and NSWRL Women’s Premiership competitions until at least the end of season 2022.
On Saturday, it was revealed a number of current sponsors would consider walking away from the Bulldogs over concerns of the direction of the club and the influence of Laundy Hotel Group at Belmore.
That news came after The Daily revealed the Laundys could reconsider their agreement if the political infighting continued at the club.
Earlier this month a requisition with 116 signatures of voting members calling for an EGM was received by the club. The Bulldogs have 21 days, from when the requisition was received, to call a meeting where a vote deciding the future’s of Anderson, Ballesty and Dunn would take place.
It is understood that other than an acknowledgement that the requisition for an EGM was received, no one from the club has reached out to the disgruntled group in an attempt to broker a peace deal or at least find some common ground.
It’s a mess all parties want resolved before incoming coach Trent Barrett arrives at Belmore in November.
NINE PILLARS PRESENTED TO MEMBERS DURING 2018 CAMPAIGN  Engage with members and fans  Implement a new management and leadership style  Introduce proper governance, process and accountability  Become once again a Best Practice sporting organisation  Entrench our Bulldogs culture  Develop our people  Develop a new Strategic Plan  Focus on our Junior League  Bring respect back to our club

What a pack of duds these agitators are... 

make reference to not looking back at tradition then reference family values...
Pay was showed more than due respect...
Maybe some members care about Ballesty/Laundy the majority don’t give a rats...
Calling for a detailed strategic plan yet we don’t know who the rmajority of these muppets are or what they’re offering...

Get the EGM on and relegate these agitating jokers to history!!!...

Theyve done more damage in two months than Lynne and Co could possibly do in 4 years...

Running to Weasler!!!... what a pack of grubs... no true bulldog supporter would consider such a thing... They care bought for the club and only for themselves...

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3 points on the salary cap scandal.

1. If you are going to cheat the cap, don't document it on a piece of paper and leave it where a journalist can find it.
2. Jouralist was only digging becuase oasis was a shambles.
3. Our actual SC squad was ordinary, very few people understand that.

Given 3.
a) we were paying well over the odds for fringe first graders ... my guess.
b) we were paying market rates and all clubs were well over.

With the SC we were definitely stockpiling experienced fringe first graders, we did get an advantage, depth is underestimated. But the side was never quite the star studded team people imagined it to be. 
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the football club constitution needs a revamp
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dman2018 - 5 Oct 2020 4:09 PM
Micko - 5 Oct 2020 3:14 PM

Didn’t he throw his hat in the ring at the last election???...

for him to now comment that he was wrong re the current board says a lot. 
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zoz2015 - 5 Oct 2020 4:38 PM
Micko - 5 Oct 2020 3:14 PM

It was not long ago we actually played in two Grand Finals.. if we had managed to pull one of those off then the club would be in a different position now..
The club seemed to have been desperate to win a comp under Hasler and it has now come home to roost.. 
 Old heads maybe the go I will even bring back Turvey or One of the Hughes. 


Des inherited a fairly good squad and reasonable lower grade depth.
No one said that given talent Des couldn't coach.

Rules around that era allowed a lot of wrestle, and block plays which in many cases were obstructions, that style suited Des.
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Six reason why we want Anderson gone
The grievances behind the push to have Canterbury matriarch Lynne Anderson ousted as the chair of the football club can be revealed.
The group of disgruntled voting members behind the extraordinary general meeting, where a vote will take place to have Anderson removed, have outlined a list of six issues that, in their opinion, make Anderson’s position as the club’s chair untenable.
Fellow board members John Ballesty and Paul Dunn, who were part of Anderson’s ticket in the 2018 election, are also in the firing line.
In a statement from the group, the grievances were listed as follows:
• The Laundys need to understand having their name on the front of the jersey is a great privilege and not a right.
• The members and supporters have concerns that board member John Ballesty’s business arrangements or partnerships are potentially a conflict of interest. There must be more clarity in regards to the Laundy Hotel Group’s sponsorship value.
• The notion that we need to look to our past to somehow point to the future shows the directionless and lack of imagination of the Anderson-led board.
• Anderson has shown no interest in delivering on any of her 9 pillars plan points she took to the 2018 AGM. We would like to see a detailed strategic plan for the club in the future. Anderson has failed to show vision for the club which was one of her 9 pillar points.
• Anderson’s board displayed no family values in their treatment of coach and club legend Dean Pay.
• The current board needs to provide clarity over the true arrangements with Mounties. Such a monumental decision was made without member consultation whatsoever and does not reflect the Bulldogs way.
In September, a report revealed Ballesty had failed to disclose to other board members that he co-owns a hotel with Arthur Laundy, raising questions about a potential conflict of interest.
Laundy’s pub empire, Laundy Hotel Group, agreed to become the club’s major sponsor until the end of 2022 in late July.
It was confirmed that Ballesty, at that time, had not disclosed his business partnership with Laundy to the entire board.
The group behind the EGM is also frustrated with the club’s partnership with Mounties, the colours of which will replace the blue and white of the Bulldogs in both the Canterbury Cup and NSWRL Women’s Premiership competitions until at least the end of season 2022.
On Saturday, it was revealed a number of current sponsors would consider walking away from the Bulldogs over concerns of the direction of the club and the influence of Laundy Hotel Group at Belmore.
That news came after The Daily revealed the Laundys could reconsider their agreement if the political infighting continued at the club.
Earlier this month a requisition with 116 signatures of voting members calling for an EGM was received by the club. The Bulldogs have 21 days, from when the requisition was received, to call a meeting where a vote deciding the future’s of Anderson, Ballesty and Dunn would take place.
It is understood that other than an acknowledgement that the requisition for an EGM was received, no one from the club has reached out to the disgruntled group in an attempt to broker a peace deal or at least find some common ground.
It’s a mess all parties want resolved before incoming coach Trent Barrett arrives at Belmore in November.
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Unfortunately zoz in 2012 we were against a good side in melbourne, but we did fight back. In 2014 different story. It didn't natter whether it was the Bulldogs, Penrith or any other team, souffs were always going to be given preference on calls in that game. The bell ringing bullsh!t at the start gave the ruse away.
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Micko - 5 Oct 2020 3:14 PM
What are everyone’s thoughts on Gary McIntyre? Could he put his hat in the ring for the board? Would anybody care if we cheated the cap again? 

I remember back in 02 when we looked like signing Craig Gower to be our halfback. Then the salary cap bullshit. We would have had one of the strongest teams in the game if we weren’t caught out. Could McIntyre bring us back to the good old days?

What honestly can we hope for now days? 

It was not long ago we actually played in two Grand Finals.. if we had managed to pull one of those off then the club would be in a different position now..
The club seemed to have been desperate to win a comp under Hasler and it has now come home to roost.. 
 Old heads maybe the go I will even bring back Turvey or One of the Hughes. 


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dman2018 - 5 Oct 2020 4:09 PM
Micko - 5 Oct 2020 3:14 PM

Didn’t he throw his hat in the ring at the last election???...

Lol. I don’t know. If I was a voting member I would. Next time I’m down in Sydney I would love to sign up to the football club. Any help would be appreciated 

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Micko - 5 Oct 2020 3:14 PM
What are everyone’s thoughts on Gary McIntyre? Could he put his hat in the ring for the board? Would anybody care if we cheated the cap again? 

I remember back in 02 when we looked like signing Craig Gower to be our halfback. Then the salary cap bullshit. We would have had one of the strongest teams in the game if we weren’t caught out. Could McIntyre bring us back to the good old days?

What honestly can we hope for now days? 

He has always been chatty at the AGMs I have been to and I still haven't made up my mind whether his main interest is Gary McIntyre or the Bulldogs. Though if you are looking for someone with humility he ain't the go.Personally I find him a little glib and insincere.
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Micko - 5 Oct 2020 3:14 PM
What are everyone’s thoughts on Gary McIntyre? Could he put his hat in the ring for the board? Would anybody care if we cheated the cap again? 

I remember back in 02 when we looked like signing Craig Gower to be our halfback. Then the salary cap bullshit. We would have had one of the strongest teams in the game if we weren’t caught out. Could McIntyre bring us back to the good old days?

What honestly can we hope for now days? 

Didn’t he throw his hat in the ring at the last election???...
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Micko - 5 Oct 2020 2:53 PM

Ilan has been one of the form centres in the company in the back half of the year... 

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Micko - 5 Oct 2020 3:14 PM
What are everyone’s thoughts on Gary McIntyre? Could he put his hat in the ring for the board? Would anybody care if we cheated the cap again? 

I remember back in 02 when we looked like signing Craig Gower to be our halfback. Then the salary cap bullshit. We would have had one of the strongest teams in the game if we weren’t caught out. Could McIntyre bring us back to the good old days?

What honestly can we hope for now days? 

Oasis was a total cock up, so bad it could have been a comedy show. Rank amateur and a big opportunity totally stuffed up.

Most of our admin were closer to primary school P&C than the world of business...it is a throw back to league admin in the 50s, and 60s ...


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Marki - 5 Oct 2020 9:58 AM

That’s simply not true Marki. 

Compare our top 17 with Storms top 17. I’m not going to list each team but please point out one player that has played this year in our team that is better than his opposing player for Melbourne. Even Lee and Olam are much better than Holland and Montoya. 

 Now, I don’t disagree with you that our spine needs a total overhaul and is at best ordinary. But how do we change that? Melbourne’s spine are all juniors. And we can’t compete with them in buying the best juniors. So what should we do?



Ilan has been one of the form centres in the company in the back half of the year... 
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What are everyone’s thoughts on Gary McIntyre? Could he put his hat in the ring for the board? Would anybody care if we cheated the cap again? 

I remember back in 02 when we looked like signing Craig Gower to be our halfback. Then the salary cap bullshit. We would have had one of the strongest teams in the game if we weren’t caught out. Could McIntyre bring us back to the good old days?

What honestly can we hope for now days? 

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Marki - 5 Oct 2020 9:58 AM
Mooloolabadog - 5 Oct 2020 9:34 AM

Absolutely.
Storm have Lee and Olam as they centre pairing....
And probably will play a GF with them.

Just shows how important it is in having a well drilled team with key players in the spine. The rest can be nuffies who just know their role.

That’s simply not true Marki. 

Compare our top 17 with Storms top 17. I’m not going to list each team but please point out one player that has played this year in our team that is better than his opposing player for Melbourne. Even Lee and Olam are much better than Holland and Montoya. 

 Now, I don’t disagree with you that our spine needs a total overhaul and is at best ordinary. But how do we change that? Melbourne’s spine are all juniors. And we can’t compete with them in buying the best juniors. So what should we do?



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annav1 - 5 Oct 2020 2:19 PM
dman2018 - 5 Oct 2020 2:13 PM

would love her view on things, the Mounties arrangement was a big dissappointent for me, as a fan of the Canterbury Cup comp.

What is everybody elses view on that?

Has to be a reason for Mounties, either we are saving money or tapping another source of players or both.

Everyone likes to imagine that there is a quick fix for all of the clubs problems and a short cut that will get us back to our entitled position.

Reality is that we are entitled to nothing and have to work hard for success.

Grinding away on continual improvement with a conservative formula doesn't seem glamorous, but short cuts are like putting everything you own on a horse at 100/1. Everyone remembers the 1 in a million big gamble that is successful, but successful people generally don't need to gamble, they just need to be smart and work hard.

Give this board 1-2 more seasons running things their way, then we can judge results, it will not be hard to judge.
If this lot don't work out I honestly don't know what we will do, like players there is no point in recycling past failures.
No one on the board 2000-2018 has done a good job, the extention of Folkes, appointment of Des and Pay all turned out wrong.
Then we had oasis etc,  finances, juniors, leagues club, scouting, recruitment and retention, it is hard to nominate an area where we didn't go backwards.

I'm 100% sure this board inherited a total mess, I'm not 100% sure they can fix it, but so far they seem better than any alternative.

Heaps in any capacity would make the Dib era seem like the golden age of the 80s.
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